Well that's it for Mundine and Green - or is it??

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Well that's it for Mundine and Green - or is it??

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They both said before the fight this was it, no more.

Green did say he "wouldn't be retired until they buried him in the ground". But his intentions were clear - this was it.

I believed them, and like most was glad to hear they would both be hanging them up for good.

24 hours later.....I'm not so sure.

I think Green will retire. Not so sure Mundine. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if we see him back in the ring again this year.
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Nah! Circus will live to see another day. It was controversial ;-) outcome :lol:
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Well if Green has any sence , he will call it a day , because i for one think he was VERY LUCKY , to get the nod , what won him the fight was choc not going for the kill , he was outboxing Green but did'nt seem to want to risk going for it , r , BUT after i'm sure he'll be sorry he did'nt , that first rnd should of shown him he has the power , fight again i think Choc would stop him .

For me though i think it should of been a first rnd ko win for Choc ,, Green was holding , the ref was telling him to let go , and he forgot the golden rule defend at all times , he was in La la land , and got a gift , the ref did'nt know what to do , so he gave him time and took a point .

I think Green should take hs win and retire , what did amaze me was the tactics Green used , , I thought Green would be too big and too strong , and dominate with a hard piston like jab following up with the right hand .. WHAT DID HE DO ,,, He dropped his knees loweered his body and started jabbing UP ,,, Straight away it was obvious it was the wrong moves , he was telagraphing his punches , slowing his own punches and taking his own power away ,, by the middle rnds choxc had him worked out to perfection ,, I really could'nt understand it , when your the bigger man , with the longer reach and supposodly the harder punch ,, why the fook lower your fighting stance to that of a smaller man ,

Only my opinion , but be interested to hear if anyone else saw it the same .
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Not sure about Mundine but I doubt Green will be back.
Green knows and accepts the fact that at age 43 he is a far cry from the fighter he once was.
When Green came back he admitted he was just chasing the rematch. He reached that goal and is probably ready to step away.

Mundine will be 42 soon and at this point there probably aren't a lot of fights that sound appealing to Mundine. If he wanted to fight light heavyweights and super middleweights he never would have drained all the way to 154.
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Green has had more retirements than John Farnham. They will probably have rubber match in 2 or 3 years. :zzz:
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Perseus wrote:Not sure about Mundine but I doubt Green will be back.
Green knows and accepts the fact that at age 43 he is a far cry from the fighter he once was.
When Green came back he admitted he was just chasing the rematch. He reached that goal and is probably ready to step away.

Mundine will be 42 soon and at this point there probably aren't a lot of fights that sound appealing to Mundine. If he wanted to fight light heavyweights and super middleweights he never would have drained all the way to 154.
That's right. Green came back for the rematch. Got it. Won it. Time to wax the board.
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I agree with Jeff Fenech he was asked will there be a third fight he almost laughed and said ''what for Danny was 20 pound's heavier and in 30 minute's of fighting he[Danny] could not land one clean shot on a man that was the third the size of him and Fenech also said ''he feels sorry for Chock because he won clearly'' and Barry Michael another straight shooter like Fenech said something similar Mundine won clearly and that there shouldn't be a third fight............... :bag:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I agree with Jeff Fenech he was asked will there be a third fight he almost laughed and said ''what for Danny was 20 pound's heavier and in 30 minute's of fighting he[Danny] could not land one clean shot on a man that was the third the size of him and Fenech also said ''he feels sorry for Chock because he won clearly'' and Barry Michael another straight shooter like Fenech said something similar Mundine won clearly and that there shouldn't be a third fight............... :bag:
94-94 = a bad night judging
96-94 Green = clearly bias
98-90 Green = as much as i hate to say it. This is proof there is still corruption in Australian sport.

I hope Mundine appeals this and it is given a NC or MD Draw. He doesn't deserve to finish his career like that. I felt sick when that decision was made.
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Fenech shouted from his soapbox the fight shouldn't happen.

Then he wouldn't have it any other way than that Green would knock Mundine out whenever he chose.

Even said green might have to carry Mundine for a few rounds to give people something for their money because there was no risk because Mundine couldn't hurt him.

Now Fenech claiming the judges got it wrong :lol:

Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't Jeff. But you sure got it wrong and no doubt lost your money in the process :OhYes:
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[quote="bogan whisperer"]Fenech shouted from his soapbox the fight shouldn't happen.


Would this be the same Fenech , that fought Azzumah Nelson , in a third fight. when they were both way past it . . Only after he got the nod , Nelson went public saying he was conned , it was supposed to be a draw , reckoned Fenech had lied to him

sort of makes me think kettle --pot
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bogan whisperer wrote:Fenech shouted from his soapbox the fight shouldn't happen.

Then he wouldn't have it any other way than that Green would knock Mundine out whenever he chose.

Even said green might have to carry Mundine for a few rounds to give people something for their money because there was no risk because Mundine couldn't hurt him.

Now Fenech claiming the judges got it wrong :lol:

Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't Jeff. But you sure got it wrong and no doubt lost your money in the process :OhYes:

Yes that's what I thought that the smaller guy wouldn't last long Fenech was wrong so was I and there were plenty more who thought so that's why Green was the overwhelming favourite something that I didn't factor in was that in Anthonys last 3 fight's he was swimming with shark's as for Danny in his last 3 fight by comparision Green had been swimming with tad-pole's and that stood Mundine in goodsted he clearly won I was the same as Jeff because it could have been disaster for Boxing if the little guy was badly hurt and yes I lost $300 on the result but to see what a fighter lost my $300 IN COMPARISION means nothing when the 70 year old score card was read I thought Mundine didn't win that easy :oops: these type of catchweight fight's are not something that I hope don't become the norm because we will regret it sooner or later and it will only bite Boxing on the ass Mundine was right when he said Danny can never ever beat him :bag: style's :TU:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:Fenech shouted from his soapbox the fight shouldn't happen.

Then he wouldn't have it any other way than that Green would knock Mundine out whenever he chose.

Even said green might have to carry Mundine for a few rounds to give people something for their money because there was no risk because Mundine couldn't hurt him.

Now Fenech claiming the judges got it wrong :lol:

Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't Jeff. But you sure got it wrong and no doubt lost your money in the process :OhYes:

Yes that's what I thought that the smaller guy wouldn't last long Fenech was wrong so was I and there were plenty more who thought so that's why Green was the overwhelming favourite something that I didn't factor in was that in Anthonys last 3 fight's he was swimming with shark's as for Danny in his last 3 fight by comparision Green had been swimming with tad-pole's and that stood Mundine in goodsted he clearly won I was the same as Jeff because it could have been disaster for Boxing if the little guy was badly hurt and yes I lost $300 on the result but to see what a fighter lost my $300 IN COMPARISION means nothing when the 70 year old score card was read I thought Mundine didn't win that easy :oops: these type of catchweight fight's are not something that I hope don't become the norm because we will regret it sooner or later and it will only bite Boxing on the ass Mundine was right when he said Danny can never ever beat him :bag: style's :TU:
Nobody won easily. It was a close fight and whenever there is a close fight the loser claims they were robbed. All part of boxing.
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coneye wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:Fenech shouted from his soapbox the fight shouldn't happen.


Would this be the same Fenech , that fought Azzumah Nelson , in a third fight. when they were both way past it . . Only after he got the nod , Nelson went public saying he was conned , it was supposed to be a draw , reckoned Fenech had lied to him

sort of makes me think kettle --pot
:OhYes:
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bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:Fenech shouted from his soapbox the fight shouldn't happen.

Then he wouldn't have it any other way than that Green would knock Mundine out whenever he chose.

Even said green might have to carry Mundine for a few rounds to give people something for their money because there was no risk because Mundine couldn't hurt him.

Now Fenech claiming the judges got it wrong :lol:

Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't Jeff. But you sure got it wrong and no doubt lost your money in the process :OhYes:

Yes that's what I thought that the smaller guy wouldn't last long Fenech was wrong so was I and there were plenty more who thought so that's why Green was the overwhelming favourite something that I didn't factor in was that in Anthonys last 3 fight's he was swimming with shark's as for Danny in his last 3 fight by comparision Green had been swimming with tad-pole's and that stood Mundine in goodsted he clearly won I was the same as Jeff because it could have been disaster for Boxing if the little guy was badly hurt and yes I lost $300 on the result but to see what a fighter lost my $300 IN COMPARISION means nothing when the 70 year old score card was read I thought Mundine didn't win that easy :oops: these type of catchweight fight's are not something that I hope don't become the norm because we will regret it sooner or later and it will only bite Boxing on the ass Mundine was right when he said Danny can never ever beat him :bag: style's :TU:
Nobody won easily. It was a close fight and whenever there is a close fight the loser claims they were robbed. All part of boxing.
Barry Michael/Jeff Fenech/Paul Kent/Eddie Mc Guire all said Mundine was the clear winner Fenech and Kent I don't have to tell any one what there relationship with Mundine is :oo what am I talking about they don't have a relationship :lol: .............So from the bottom of your heart who won because if the shoe was on the other foot there is no way in hell I would talk bull sh.t and claim Mundine won when he clearly didn't I feel sorry for Danny in a way because of the corrupt judge's made this fight a stinker Danny fought his heart out like he's renowned for he didn't corrupt any judge he came to fight and win fair and square he didn't deserve an end like that and neither did Mundine no 3rd fight please we don't need it people have been seriously hurt after the fight's and if you take a close look at these 2 meeting's its something like 17/18 Mundine 4/5 round's to Green over the course of 2 fight's that's fairly one sided................Good on both Champ's how many can get that many people through the gate's in Aussie Boxing only these 2......imagine Aussie Boxing without these 2 bloke's geeze the last 17 year's or so would have felt empty....Stay retired but both we need you's both to stay in the game I see it now Green v Mundine they both have son's I hope I around if that happens :salut:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Yes that's what I thought that the smaller guy wouldn't last long Fenech was wrong so was I and there were plenty more who thought so that's why Green was the overwhelming favourite something that I didn't factor in was that in Anthonys last 3 fight's he was swimming with shark's as for Danny in his last 3 fight by comparision Green had been swimming with tad-pole's and that stood Mundine in goodsted he clearly won I was the same as Jeff because it could have been disaster for Boxing if the little guy was badly hurt and yes I lost $300 on the result but to see what a fighter lost my $300 IN COMPARISION means nothing when the 70 year old score card was read I thought Mundine didn't win that easy :oops: these type of catchweight fight's are not something that I hope don't become the norm because we will regret it sooner or later and it will only bite Boxing on the ass Mundine was right when he said Danny can never ever beat him :bag: style's :TU:
Nobody won easily. It was a close fight and whenever there is a close fight the loser claims they were robbed. All part of boxing.
Barry Michael/Jeff Fenech/Paul Kent/Eddie Mc Guire all said Mundine was the clear winner Fenech and Kent I don't have to tell any one what there relationship with Mundine is :oo what am I talking about they don't have a relationship :lol: .............So from the bottom of your heart who won because if the shoe was on the other foot there is no way in hell I would talk bull sh.t and claim Mundine won when he clearly didn't I feel sorry for Danny in a way because of the corrupt judge's made this fight a stinker Danny fought his heart out like he's renowned for he didn't corrupt any judge he came to fight and win fair and square he didn't deserve an end like that and neither did Mundine no 3rd fight please we don't need it people have been seriously hurt after the fight's and if you take a close look at these 2 meeting's its something like 17/18 Mundine 4/5 round's to Green over the course of 2 fight's that's fairly one sided................Good on both Champ's how many can get that many people through the gate's in Aussie Boxing only these 2......imagine Aussie Boxing without these 2 bloke's geeze the last 17 year's or so would have felt empty....Stay retired but both we need you's both to stay in the game I see it now Green v Mundine they both have son's I hope I around if that happens :salut:
Whenever there is a close fight the loser claims he was robbed and the media go for the angle that will create the most discussion and sell the most papers.
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bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
Nobody won easily. It was a close fight and whenever there is a close fight the loser claims they were robbed. All part of boxing.
Barry Michael/Jeff Fenech/Paul Kent/Eddie Mc Guire all said Mundine was the clear winner Fenech and Kent I don't have to tell any one what there relationship with Mundine is :oo what am I talking about they don't have a relationship :lol: .............So from the bottom of your heart who won because if the shoe was on the other foot there is no way in hell I would talk bull sh.t and claim Mundine won when he clearly didn't I feel sorry for Danny in a way because of the corrupt judge's made this fight a stinker Danny fought his heart out like he's renowned for he didn't corrupt any judge he came to fight and win fair and square he didn't deserve an end like that and neither did Mundine no 3rd fight please we don't need it people have been seriously hurt after the fight's and if you take a close look at these 2 meeting's its something like 17/18 Mundine 4/5 round's to Green over the course of 2 fight's that's fairly one sided................Good on both Champ's how many can get that many people through the gate's in Aussie Boxing only these 2......imagine Aussie Boxing without these 2 bloke's geeze the last 17 year's or so would have felt empty....Stay retired but both we need you's both to stay in the game I see it now Green v Mundine they both have son's I hope I around if that happens :salut:
Whenever there is a close fight the loser claims he was robbed and the media go for the angle that will create the most discussion and sell the most papers.

I had Mundine the clear winner who did you have winning :D
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Barry Michael/Jeff Fenech/Paul Kent/Eddie Mc Guire all said Mundine was the clear winner Fenech and Kent I don't have to tell any one what there relationship with Mundine is :oo what am I talking about they don't have a relationship :lol: .............So from the bottom of your heart who won because if the shoe was on the other foot there is no way in hell I would talk bull sh.t and claim Mundine won when he clearly didn't I feel sorry for Danny in a way because of the corrupt judge's made this fight a stinker Danny fought his heart out like he's renowned for he didn't corrupt any judge he came to fight and win fair and square he didn't deserve an end like that and neither did Mundine no 3rd fight please we don't need it people have been seriously hurt after the fight's and if you take a close look at these 2 meeting's its something like 17/18 Mundine 4/5 round's to Green over the course of 2 fight's that's fairly one sided................Good on both Champ's how many can get that many people through the gate's in Aussie Boxing only these 2......imagine Aussie Boxing without these 2 bloke's geeze the last 17 year's or so would have felt empty....Stay retired but both we need you's both to stay in the game I see it now Green v Mundine they both have son's I hope I around if that happens :salut:
Whenever there is a close fight the loser claims he was robbed and the media go for the angle that will create the most discussion and sell the most papers.

I had Mundine the clear winner who did you have winning :D
It was a close fight. There was no clear winner. I had Green edging it and the judges agree with me with their majority decision verdict.
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bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
Nobody won easily. It was a close fight and whenever there is a close fight the loser claims they were robbed. All part of boxing.
Barry Michael/Jeff Fenech/Paul Kent/Eddie Mc Guire all said Mundine was the clear winner Fenech and Kent I don't have to tell any one what there relationship with Mundine is :oo what am I talking about they don't have a relationship :lol: .............So from the bottom of your heart who won because if the shoe was on the other foot there is no way in hell I would talk bull sh.t and claim Mundine won when he clearly didn't I feel sorry for Danny in a way because of the corrupt judge's made this fight a stinker Danny fought his heart out like he's renowned for he didn't corrupt any judge he came to fight and win fair and square he didn't deserve an end like that and neither did Mundine no 3rd fight please we don't need it people have been seriously hurt after the fight's and if you take a close look at these 2 meeting's its something like 17/18 Mundine 4/5 round's to Green over the course of 2 fight's that's fairly one sided................Good on both Champ's how many can get that many people through the gate's in Aussie Boxing only these 2......imagine Aussie Boxing without these 2 bloke's geeze the last 17 year's or so would have felt empty....Stay retired but both we need you's both to stay in the game I see it now Green v Mundine they both have son's I hope I around if that happens :salut:
Whenever there is a close fight the loser claims he was robbed and the media go for the angle that will create the most discussion and sell the most papers.

Barry Michael and Jeff Fenech are not the media ;-)
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Barry Michael/Jeff Fenech/Paul Kent/Eddie Mc Guire all said Mundine was the clear winner Fenech and Kent I don't have to tell any one what there relationship with Mundine is :oo what am I talking about they don't have a relationship :lol: .............So from the bottom of your heart who won because if the shoe was on the other foot there is no way in hell I would talk bull sh.t and claim Mundine won when he clearly didn't I feel sorry for Danny in a way because of the corrupt judge's made this fight a stinker Danny fought his heart out like he's renowned for he didn't corrupt any judge he came to fight and win fair and square he didn't deserve an end like that and neither did Mundine no 3rd fight please we don't need it people have been seriously hurt after the fight's and if you take a close look at these 2 meeting's its something like 17/18 Mundine 4/5 round's to Green over the course of 2 fight's that's fairly one sided................Good on both Champ's how many can get that many people through the gate's in Aussie Boxing only these 2......imagine Aussie Boxing without these 2 bloke's geeze the last 17 year's or so would have felt empty....Stay retired but both we need you's both to stay in the game I see it now Green v Mundine they both have son's I hope I around if that happens :salut:
Whenever there is a close fight the loser claims he was robbed and the media go for the angle that will create the most discussion and sell the most papers.

Barry Michael and Jeff Fenech are not the media ;-)
Both have extensive media commitments and when you are paid for your opinion you are media :OhYes:

As for McGuire, most people don't even value his opinion on football, let alone boxing :lol:
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bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
Whenever there is a close fight the loser claims he was robbed and the media go for the angle that will create the most discussion and sell the most papers.

I had Mundine the clear winner who did you have winning :D
It was a close fight. There was no clear winner. I had Green edging it and the judges agree with me with their majority decision verdict.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: THE JUDGE'S FORGET ABOUT MIN THE 70 YEAR OLD WITH THAT UBELIEVABLE SCORE THATS CORRUPT PERIOD.................NOW THE OTHER JUDGE 96/94 GREEN HAD A POINT DEDUCTED IN ROUND 7 THIS BLOKE SCORED ROUND 7...10-10 EVEN :twisted: THAT WAS A 10-8 ROUND MUNDINE..HE CLEARLY WON ROUND 7 AND YOU AGREE WITH THE JUDGE'S :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad:...........ITS SAD WHEN PEOPLE CANNOT BE HONEST :roll:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

I had Mundine the clear winner who did you have winning :D
It was a close fight. There was no clear winner. I had Green edging it and the judges agree with me with their majority decision verdict.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: THE JUDGE'S FORGET ABOUT MIN THE 70 YEAR OLD WITH THAT UBELIEVABLE SCORE THATS CORRUPT PERIOD.................NOW THE OTHER JUDGE 96/94 GREEN HAD A POINT DEDUCTED IN ROUND 7 THIS BLOKE SCORED ROUND 7...10-10 EVEN :twisted: THAT WAS A 10-8 ROUND MUNDINE..HE CLEARLY WON ROUND 7 AND YOU AGREE WITH THE JUDGE'S :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad:...........ITS SAD WHEN PEOPLE CANNOT BE HONEST :roll:
That you don't agree with me and stoop as low as to challenge my honesty doesn't worry me in the least. Cheers :TU:
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If Mundine was ahead 10/9 in the round, after 1pt deduction it's 9/9......converted to 10/10 under 10 must system.
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AntonS wrote:If Mundine was ahead 10/9 in the round, after 1pt deduction it's 9/9......converted to 10/10 under 10 must system.
Thanks for the clarification. But it was Green who got deducted the point in the 7th round.

So the judge must have had it Green 10/9.

Then deducted Green to make it 9/9.

Before applying the 10 must and making it 10/10.
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bogan whisperer wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
It was a close fight. There was no clear winner. I had Green edging it and the judges agree with me with their majority decision verdict.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: THE JUDGE'S FORGET ABOUT MIN THE 70 YEAR OLD WITH THAT UBELIEVABLE SCORE THATS CORRUPT PERIOD.................NOW THE OTHER JUDGE 96/94 GREEN HAD A POINT DEDUCTED IN ROUND 7 THIS BLOKE SCORED ROUND 7...10-10 EVEN :twisted: THAT WAS A 10-8 ROUND MUNDINE..HE CLEARLY WON ROUND 7 AND YOU AGREE WITH THE JUDGE'S :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad: :verysad:...........ITS SAD WHEN PEOPLE CANNOT BE HONEST :roll:
That you don't agree with me and stoop as low as to challenge my honesty doesn't worry me in the least. Cheers :TU:

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The fight was pretty close but I thought Mundine should have won. Could have scored a couple of rounds 10-10 but you have to go one way or the other. Thought Mundine's defense was pretty good and his jab was landing much better. 6 rounds to 4 but can't argue if some go the other way. JMO.
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