Ryder v Etches

Who Wins: Ryder v Etches

Ryder PTS
42
57%
Ryder KO
17
23%
Etches PTS
4
5%
Etches KO
11
15%
 
Total votes: 74

jaymitch81
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by jaymitch81 »

state of Etches tattoos. Did he have them done as a dare?
crusader
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by crusader »

With the shaved head Etches reminds me of Jurgen Braehmer
jameswilson
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by jameswilson »

Etches looking quite soft on the scales I thought.
Stuarty
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by Stuarty »

Kro wrote:
crusader wrote:With the shaved head Etches reminds me of Jurgen Braehmer
Reminds me of the banjo player from Deliverance..
:lol:
Monte Fisto
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by Monte Fisto »

i want ryder but have a gut feel that Etches is gonna catch him. i hope not though.
skanksta
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by skanksta »

Ryder looks like a ripped SMV, Etches doesn't.

I agree with the earlier poster that Ryder is better than he's shown. Maybe he'll be a 'gym-fighter' that never really produces, but I (slightly) favoured him already and this pic makes my mind up - money on "The Gorilla" :box:
TheLeprechaun
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by TheLeprechaun »

I think etches has a good chance of timing ryder with one. Either that or ryder overwhelms him
bodyactive
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by bodyactive »

Etches shown plenty of heart tonight and kept going but its a good learning fight
veriton
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by veriton »

etches looks finished to me, he took way too many head shots tonight and with no head movement he cant go on like that. his limitations have been well and truly exposed. good ride while it lasted.
bodyactive
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by bodyactive »

veriton wrote:etches looks finished to me, he took way too many head shots tonight and with no head movement he cant go on like that. his limitations have been well and truly exposed. good ride while it lasted.
He's only had 2 hard fights and he's young enough.I agree about getting hit too much his hands are low no head movement at all
forcefraser
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by forcefraser »

Stepped up twice, one of which was just a higher level journeyman and beaten handily each time.

Think we've found his level.

Does he sell tickets?
maley1984
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by maley1984 »

forcefraser wrote:Stepped up twice, one of which was just a higher level journeyman and beaten handily each time.

Think we've found his level.

Does he sell tickets?

Yeah his or was a big ticket seller. Has been matched very carefully in his career.
afcpaul
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by afcpaul »

I had Ryder winning easy but ITV had it close / draw. Did anyone else see it this way ? . I thought Ryder won every round.
Andrew
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by Andrew »

maley1984 wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Stepped up twice, one of which was just a higher level journeyman and beaten handily each time.

Think we've found his level.

Does he sell tickets?

Yeah his or was a big ticket seller. Has been matched very carefully in his career.
Yeah smashing these international no marks for toy belts does nothing to develop a fighter.

Did seem to take a bit of a beating last night that eye looked pretty bad hope he doesn't get long term damage from that.
maley1984
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by maley1984 »

Naandrew wrote:
maley1984 wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Stepped up twice, one of which was just a higher level journeyman and beaten handily each time.

Think we've found his level.

Does he sell tickets?

Yeah his or was a big ticket seller. Has been matched very carefully in his career.
Yeah smashing these international no marks for toy belts does nothing to develop a fighter.

Did seem to take a bit of a beating last night that eye looked pretty bad hope he doesn't get long term damage from that.

I didn't see last night but I have followed his career result wise.
handsofstone
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by handsofstone »

I was a bit disappointed in Etches last night, I thought this fight would've been more competitive but Ryder won it at a canter, still it was probably the best fight on the card
ElJefe
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by ElJefe »

afcpaul wrote:I had Ryder winning easy but ITV had it close / draw. Did anyone else see it this way ? . I thought Ryder won every round.
I thought he won very wide. Woodhall's reading of the fight was way off. He had it level going into the 12th, I thought Etches needed a KO from around the 8th onwards.
bodyactive
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by bodyactive »

I think Etches should look at fighting Liam Cameron both from Sheffield will sell loads and winner moves on
TheGingerBomber
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by TheGingerBomber »

afcpaul wrote:I had Ryder winning easy but ITV had it close / draw. Did anyone else see it this way ? . I thought Ryder won every round.
I didn't score properly but just watching normal I could see Ryder clearly won the first 5 and then some. Woodhall's card having Etches up in the last round gave me palpitations.
keirw
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by keirw »

Good win for Ryder, when his is in full flow he is very good to watch, but he switches off a bit too often. He should look at challenging for the British at supermiddle next.

Etches tried to box too much and came second best in every department, he is clearly tough but trying to mimic the ingle style doesn't suit him at all, particularly with such a leaky defence. Woodhall gave him far too much credit for flicking out inaccurate jabs. Hopefully he doesn't go back to knocking over journeymen, at this stage of his career he needs good, meaningful fights.
veriton
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by veriton »

but he cant win, good meaningful fights?????

he needs a few journeymen and then a big cash out. he's as tough as they come but he's got to a level where he cant bang people out and he isnt smart enough to outbox them. that's a dangerous combination for someone with as much heart as etches.
keirw
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by keirw »

veriton wrote:but he cant win, good meaningful fights?????

he needs a few journeymen and then a big cash out. he's as tough as they come but he's got to a level where he cant bang people out and he isnt smart enough to outbox them. that's a dangerous combination for someone with as much heart as etches.
You might be right, maybe he will never improve.

I did get a bit worried when I saw him seemingly ignoring Ingle's good advice during the fight.
'Don't load up so much, tap up top with the jab, then go to the body' Ingle said, Etches proceeds to throw a heavy combination up top, misses every punch then gets countered with a sharp combination from which he didn't recover until the start of the next round.
canonball1234
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by canonball1234 »

bodyactive wrote:I think Etches should look at fighting Liam Cameron both from Sheffield will sell loads and winner moves on
Would out box him that much he'd think 3 people are hitting him :box:
bripez
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by bripez »

canonball1234 wrote:
bodyactive wrote:I think Etches should look at fighting Liam Cameron both from Sheffield will sell loads and winner moves on
Would out box him that much he'd think 3 people are hitting him :box:
Looks a good fight.

Both boxers at a crossroads, coming of defeats - why not ?
canonball1234
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Re: Ryder v Etches

Post by canonball1234 »

bripez wrote:
canonball1234 wrote:
bodyactive wrote:I think Etches should look at fighting Liam Cameron both from Sheffield will sell loads and winner moves on
Would out box him that much he'd think 3 people are hitting him :box:
Looks a good fight.

Both boxers at a crossroads, coming of defeats - why not ?
AV just started it on my Twitter rt to get interest would sell out both sell tickets
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