Lairdy wrote:
There's nothing wrong with thinking you can beat anyone. I personally never went into a fight thinking i couldn't win. It's a fighters mentallity. You probably wouldn't know. But i was always matched with guys that were around my level.
In reality, Horn shouldn't be fighting someone like Pacquiao for at least 2 years. And if he's NOT just fighting Pacquiao to say that he fought an all time great, he is going to get proven wrong in a bad way.
It is a fighters mentality to believe he can win any fight he gets matched in. Once he stops believing that he is done, and as soon as he starts saying that nobody pays to watch the fight anyway.
The surefire way to ensure nobody pays for Horn vs Pacquiao is for Horn to start telling the media he doesn't think he can win
Of course he has to talk it up. Even then, i think he's more in it to say he fought Pacquiao, rather than legitimately thinking he can win. If he can last 6 rounds, he's done himself well.
So here you are saying :
"Of course Horn has to talk it up".
When a few short posts ago you came out with :
"If you think that Horn's opinion means more simply because of who he is, then may i remind you that this is a guy that will also tell people he can beat Pacquiao".
You have just succeeded in disappearing up your own rear end
bogan whisperer wrote:
It is a fighters mentality to believe he can win any fight he gets matched in. Once he stops believing that he is done, and as soon as he starts saying that nobody pays to watch the fight anyway.
The surefire way to ensure nobody pays for Horn vs Pacquiao is for Horn to start telling the media he doesn't think he can win
Of course he has to talk it up. Even then, i think he's more in it to say he fought Pacquiao, rather than legitimately thinking he can win. If he can last 6 rounds, he's done himself well.
So here you are saying :
"Of course Horn has to talk it up".
When a few short posts ago you came out with :
"If you think that Horn's opinion means more simply because of who he is, then may i remind you that this is a guy that will also tell people he can beat Pacquiao".
You have just succeeded in disappearing up your own rear end
Of course you would take that out of context. I wouldn't expect anything less. I was eluding to Horn simply saying the things he feels he has to say. Gosh, he was calling Choc out a few years ago, just like Green, trying to use Chocs name to garner support. Of course he's not going to come out and say that Choc won. How many fans would that get him. Of course he's going to talk up a fight he stands no chance of winning, that's his job! This is why he's 1 of the 8 peoplein Australia that think Green won. He's following the Green 101 career plan. His opinion is worth nothing in this context.
Let me get this straight. You think Horn has to talk it up in order to sell the Pacquiao fight. But in doing so Horn can’t say he thinks he will win because that would destroy his credibility and mean his opinion on the Green–Mundine fight isn't worth listening to? That's the logic coming out of your posts.
Lairdy wrote:
Of course he has to talk it up. Even then, i think he's more in it to say he fought Pacquiao, rather than legitimately thinking he can win. If he can last 6 rounds, he's done himself well.
So here you are saying :
"Of course Horn has to talk it up".
When a few short posts ago you came out with :
"If you think that Horn's opinion means more simply because of who he is, then may i remind you that this is a guy that will also tell people he can beat Pacquiao".
You have just succeeded in disappearing up your own rear end
Of course you would take that out of context. I wouldn't expect anything less. I was eluding to Horn simply saying the things he feels he has to say. Gosh, he was calling Choc out a few years ago, just like Green, trying to use Chocs name to garner support. Of course he's not going to come out and say that Choc won. How many fans would that get him. Of course he's going to talk up a fight he stands no chance of winning, that's his job! This is why he's 1 of the 8 peoplein Australia that think Green won. He's following the Green 101 career plan. His opinion is worth nothing in this context.
He called him out last year as a ''tune up'' for a possible fight with Vargas IIRC.
Horn would be much better served to take Greens side, siding with Mundine would just alienate some of Greens bogan army but not enough that they would pay to see him lose. Siding with Green may get him a few extra fans. Whether or not that's what he doing I don't know but it certainly can't be discounted that as a purely business decision it makes sense to come out in support of Green in an attempt to get his name out there to some of his casual fans.
Like a Boss wrote:Perhaps Jeff Horn just watched the fight and gave his honest opinion of the result?
But the conspiracy theorists would never consider that. Let alone accept it.
Thats crazy talk LaB, you'd have to be crazy to believe that, stop being so crazy
Didnt watch the fight but saw the sports report the next day.... Roy and HG were on the radio and were really takiny the piss out of Cooper and his opponent.... farkin had me in stitches...
Pretty sure Jeff Fenech is not a fan of Mundine and he use to train Danny Green. And he said he thought Mundine won the fight. We all know that Barry Michael is a fan of Mundine. But there is another example for ya. I thought Mundine should have got there but not worst decision. Reasonably close but Mundine's jab got through all night where Danny's punches were partially blocked or didn't land at all. Just my opinion and didn't care who won.
fox wrote:Pretty sure Jeff Fenech is not a fan of Mundine and he use to train Danny Green. And he said he thought Mundine won the fight. We all know that Barry Michael is a fan of Mundine. But there is another example for ya. I thought Mundine should have got there but not worst decision. Reasonably close but Mundine's jab got through all night where Danny's punches were partially blocked or didn't land at all. Just my opinion and didn't care who won.
Green and Fenech had a very public falling out after Fenech took off to train Mike Tyson, abandoning Green with little notice in process. That was years ago. In fact prior to the first Green-Mundine fight in 2006 and Fenech and Green have had numerous public spats since.
Fenech is entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But don't think for a minute there is any loyalty left between him and Green. The only thing they agree on is their dislike of each other.
fox wrote:Pretty sure Jeff Fenech is not a fan of Mundine and he use to train Danny Green. And he said he thought Mundine won the fight. We all know that Barry Michael is a fan of Mundine. But there is another example for ya. I thought Mundine should have got there but not worst decision. Reasonably close but Mundine's jab got through all night where Danny's punches were partially blocked or didn't land at all. Just my opinion and didn't care who won.
Green and Fenech had a very public falling out after Fenech took off to train Mike Tyson, abandoning Green with little notice in process. That was years ago. In fact prior to the first Green-Mundine fight in 2006 and Fenech and Green have had numerous public spats since.
Fenech is entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But don't think for a minute there is any loyalty left between him and Green. The only thing they agree on is their dislike of each other.
Yes but pretty sure there is no love lost between Mundine and Fenech. I heard Fenech lost a fair bit of money when they tried to make the Mosley fight before it happened. I was only making an example when the other old mate said of Barry Michael's opinion.
fox wrote:Pretty sure Jeff Fenech is not a fan of Mundine and he use to train Danny Green. And he said he thought Mundine won the fight. We all know that Barry Michael is a fan of Mundine. But there is another example for ya. I thought Mundine should have got there but not worst decision. Reasonably close but Mundine's jab got through all night where Danny's punches were partially blocked or didn't land at all. Just my opinion and didn't care who won.
Green and Fenech had a very public falling out after Fenech took off to train Mike Tyson, abandoning Green with little notice in process. That was years ago. In fact prior to the first Green-Mundine fight in 2006 and Fenech and Green have had numerous public spats since.
Fenech is entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But don't think for a minute there is any loyalty left between him and Green. The only thing they agree on is their dislike of each other.
Yes but pretty sure there is no love lost between Mundine and Fenech. I heard Fenech lost a fair bit of money when they tried to make the Mosley fight before it happened. I was only making an example when the other old mate said of Barry Michael's opinion.
Fenech probably doesn't like Green or Mundine. He certainly doesn't like Green and from their public spats the feeling is mutual.
Barry Michael is also entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But he is a keen Anthony Mundine supporter. Has been for a long time. That's no secret.
bogan whisperer wrote:
Green and Fenech had a very public falling out after Fenech took off to train Mike Tyson, abandoning Green with little notice in process. That was years ago. In fact prior to the first Green-Mundine fight in 2006 and Fenech and Green have had numerous public spats since.
Fenech is entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But don't think for a minute there is any loyalty left between him and Green. The only thing they agree on is their dislike of each other.
Yes but pretty sure there is no love lost between Mundine and Fenech. I heard Fenech lost a fair bit of money when they tried to make the Mosley fight before it happened. I was only making an example when the other old mate said of Barry Michael's opinion.
Fenech probably doesn't like Green or Mundine. He certainly doesn't like Green and from their public spats the feeling is mutual.
Barry Michael is also entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But he is a keen Anthony Mundine supporter. Has been for a long time. That's no secret.
Regardless what any of those blokes think, I still think Mundine should have got there in a close one. Obviously you think Green won so we'll have to agree to disagree.
fox wrote:
Yes but pretty sure there is no love lost between Mundine and Fenech. I heard Fenech lost a fair bit of money when they tried to make the Mosley fight before it happened. I was only making an example when the other old mate said of Barry Michael's opinion.
Fenech probably doesn't like Green or Mundine. He certainly doesn't like Green and from their public spats the feeling is mutual.
Barry Michael is also entitled to his opinion on who won the fight. But he is a keen Anthony Mundine supporter. Has been for a long time. That's no secret.
Regardless what any of those blokes think, I still think Mundine should have got there in a close one. Obviously you think Green won so we'll have to agree to disagree.
Daniel Geale's wife thought Mundine won or at worst a draw. We could do this all day but at the end of the day Danny squeaked by a guy with a bung hip coming up 13kg and who he out weighed by 6kg. Bragging rights.
DA GOOSE wrote:Daniel Geale's wife thought Mundine won or at worst a draw. We could do this all day but at the end of the day Danny squeaked by a guy with a bung hip coming up 13kg and who he out weighed by 6kg. Bragging rights.
u forgot to mention that green fought the whole fight after being badly concussed by a coward dog shot.
but I guess that doesn't suit your hater agenda does it? lol
if the woman had been on the other end of a coward low mongrel dog shot he wouldn't have made it to the 2nd round.
and just one other thing u forgot to mention was that the woman's own corner KNEW he was losing. but again we wouldn't want the truth getting in the way of a haters story would we, pmsl.
u forgot to mention that green fought the whole fight after being badly concussed by a coward dog shot.
but I guess that doesn't suit your hater agenda does it? lol
if the woman had been on the other end of a coward low mongrel dog shot he wouldn't have made it to the 2nd round.
and just one other thing u forgot to mention was that the woman's own corner KNEW he was losing. but again we wouldn't want the truth getting in the way of a haters story would we, pmsl.
Might have been a bit of a cheap shot but at no stage did the ref call stop so he was quite within his rights to punch. Protect yourself at all times which Green failed to do.
Like a Boss wrote:Perhaps Jeff Horn just watched the fight and gave his honest opinion of the result?
But the conspiracy theorists would never consider that. Let alone accept it.
Thats crazy talk LaB, you'd have to be crazy to believe that, stop being so crazy
Didnt watch the fight but saw the sports report the next day.... Roy and HG were on the radio and were really takiny the piss out of Cooper and his opponent.... farkin had me in stitches...
u forgot to mention that green fought the whole fight after being badly concussed by a coward dog shot.
but I guess that doesn't suit your hater agenda does it? lol
if the woman had been on the other end of a coward low mongrel dog shot he wouldn't have made it to the 2nd round.
and just one other thing u forgot to mention was that the woman's own corner KNEW he was losing. but again we wouldn't want the truth getting in the way of a haters story would we, pmsl.
Might have been a bit of a cheap shot but at no stage did the ref call stop so he was quite within his rights to punch. Protect yourself at all times which Green failed to do.
I have the fool on ignore but see his posts when quoted. Green played that a treat, MAB's cheap shot in the 11th round against PAC in their 2nd fight was much worse than Mundine's lovetap. And Mundines corner deny that Mundine sr or his corner said that.
DA GOOSE wrote:Daniel Geale's wife thought Mundine won or at worst a draw. We could do this all day but at the end of the day Danny squeaked by a guy with a bung hip coming up 13kg and who he out weighed by 6kg. Bragging rights.
Finally some honesty from you regarding the weight difference
Though you argued long and hard there would be 10 kg difference, that was never going to be the case.
DA GOOSE wrote:Daniel Geale's wife thought Mundine won or at worst a draw. We could do this all day but at the end of the day Danny squeaked by a guy with a bung hip coming up 13kg and who he out weighed by 6kg. Bragging rights.
Finally some honesty from you regarding the weight difference
Though you argued long and hard there would be 10 kg difference, that was never going to be the case.
