Greatest Boxing Comebacks?

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Goodnight, Irene wrote:The thread is about Boxers coming back from great adversity to achieve great things.

Getting your head caved in by Evander Holyfield, quitting like a b!tch in the rematch, & getting pummeled by Lennox Lewis, Danny Williams & Kev McBride don't qualify as among the greatest...hell, Tyson's, "comeback," qualifies as, 'Underwhelming,' & that's about it. What does he balance these losses out with? Wins over Seldon & Etienne (both dives, if ever I saw them), & a handful of other scrubs.
This from a guy who worship at the altar of the grill meister and his carefully orchestrated comeback. Beating washed up cruiser weights and retired recovering drug addicts is an amazing feat if your name is Geroge Foreman but apparently not if you are Mike Tyson.

Tyson came back form adversity to win the title. That is a great comeback no matter how much you hate the guy.
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Nobody is hating on Tyson. You are simply stating lies as though they were facts.

It is a fact --- Tyson never recovered the Heavyweight Championship after losing it in 1990. He did not regain the title, as you have falsely attributed him to doing.

If anyone deserves the hate mantle, in all honesty, it has to be you, in regards to Foreman. How else to explain comparing Foreman's comeback with Tyson's post-prison run? LOL.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Nobody is hating on Tyson. You are simply stating lies as though they were facts.

It is a fact --- Tyson never recovered the Heavyweight Championship after losing it in 1990. He did not regain the title, as you have falsely attributed him to doing.
Ok, not THE title but A title. Regardless I find it strange that you dismiss the comeback as not worthy of mention in this thread. Languishing in jail for 3 years and coming back after a 4 year layoff to win the WBC heavyweight title in only his third fight back against a solid hw in Frank Bruno sounds impressive enough to warrant mention imo.
Goodnight, Irene wrote: If anyone deserves the hate mantle, in all honesty, it has to be you, in regards to Foreman. How else to explain comparing Foreman's comeback with Tyson's post-prison run? LOL.
You defined Tyson's post prison run as underwhelming based on the level of competition he faced and the guys he lost to. If that is so, surely the same must be said for Foreman in his second career. Foreman beat a bunch of journeymen and has-beens and with one exception he lost whenever he moved up.

For the record, I think both Foreman and Tyson had impressive comebacks, Foreman more so but to suggest that Tyson does not belong in this thread is wrong imo.
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hhaehre wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:The thread is about Boxers coming back from great adversity to achieve great things.

Getting your head caved in by Evander Holyfield, quitting like a b!tch in the rematch, & getting pummeled by Lennox Lewis, Danny Williams & Kev McBride don't qualify as among the greatest...hell, Tyson's, "comeback," qualifies as, 'Underwhelming,' & that's about it. What does he balance these losses out with? Wins over Seldon & Etienne (both dives, if ever I saw them), & a handful of other scrubs.
This from a guy who worship at the altar of the grill meister and his carefully orchestrated comeback. Beating washed up cruiser weights and retired recovering drug addicts is an amazing feat if your name is Geroge Foreman but apparently not if you are Mike Tyson.

Tyson came back form adversity to win the title. That is a great comeback no matter how much you hate the guy.
Foreman knocked out the Heavyweight Champion of the World. He beat the guy, who beat the guy. And he did it when he was two month shy of 45 Years Old.

It is a much bigger comback than Tyson.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
flatnoseflynn wrote:So Tyson didn't come back from great adversity ?? COME ON who else has come back from them circumstances, I think just beating Bruno and becoming 2 time champion is a big achievment in it's self.......

Your probably right about the rest of his career but Tyson done damm well to even get back in the ring IMO after prison term you can't deny that ?

Unless you are a obvious Tyson hater :lol:

As for someone who has started watching boxing yesterday my nose would tell you different :TU: :box: :lol:
I stand corrected --- you did not watch Boxing yesterday, you simply have the ability to interpret it on par with someone of just such an ilk. I can see you put as much thought into analysing Boxing as you did with language as a child, given the 3rd-Grade errors which litter your post.

Speaking of interpreting, are you thick as a plank, or what? I'm about the explain to you what the thread is about, for a third time. The thread is about --- read carefully --- Boxers who overcame adversity to achieve great things. Not just great things, but we're talking la creme de la creme of such. Tyson came back & did sweet fvck-all. Arranged titles from Seldon & Bruno, followed by NINE LONG YEARS of circus acts & perpetual mediocrity do not qualify for good, let alone great, much less among the greatest. I love the way a shiny trinket or two distracts you from the above, though not, undoubtedly, as much as Don King would. He made his nest egg selling bogus, "title fights," like the ones he set-up for his little Iron Cash Cow to idiots like you in your millions. LOL.

I suggest you familiarise yourself with some of the stories already posted in this thread. I am only taking a harsh tone here because your nomination of Tyson is so uneblievably, irreedemably stupid & indefensible. There isn't even a ghost of a chance you can stand by your absurd claim here. To put in into perspective, if we were asked for the greatest punchers in Ring History, & I nominated Willie Pep, I would expect to get a kickign for it, & for an equally-idiotic claim, you shouldn't get out of joint for copping such either. Rather, you should excuse your abysmally poor judgement & douse this flame before it gets any bigger.


WOW!..........ENGLAND beating you in the ashes must of really hurt :lol:
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First, it's, 'must have.'

Jesus, I learned that distinction by about eight.

Secondly, is there a duller sport on Earth than Cricket? If you knew me, you'd know I know about as much of Cricket as you evidently do of Boxing :lol:
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Secondly, is there a duller sport on Earth than Cricket? If you knew me, you'd know I know about as much of Cricket as you evidently do of Boxing :lol:
so funny you say this. i was in india some weeks ago
and cricket is there all over the place. each time i saw
it i silently shook my head in disbelief that anybody
finds entertainment in this. i mean it is not even like
baseball and that already is beyond me.

but i guess it ain't easy to convince people that two guys
punching each other in the face can be interesting ...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:First, it's, 'must have.'

Jesus, I learned that distinction by about eight.

Secondly, is there a duller sport on Earth than Cricket? If you knew me, you'd know I know about as much of Cricket as you evidently do of Boxing :lol:
Cricket is a great hangover sport. It goes on forever, nothing much happens and there are no loud sharp noises.
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Cricket is literally the dullest sport ever. I hope England grinds Australia into dust, for the Ashes & at every other opportunity. The worse we're doing, the less I have to hear about the world's most stupifyingly boring, "sport."
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man wrote:the real mike tyson comeback happened on oprah and i am
serious, being aware how ridicule it is to write this on a boxing
board. he came back as a human being. if you ever saw how
nice he was with ali and sugar ray on that show in the eighties,
and how ugly and dumb he turned prior to the lewis bout with
the children eating thing, you cannot help being moved to tears
when he talks about the loss of his daughter and that he does
not want to know if anyone was responsible because he is afraid
of losing it. this is the mike tyson comeback in my book.
There is no stopping you, is there?
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Jaywheel wrote:
man wrote:the real mike tyson comeback happened on oprah and i am
serious, being aware how ridicule it is to write this on a boxing
board. he came back as a human being. if you ever saw how
nice he was with ali and sugar ray on that show in the eighties,
and how ugly and dumb he turned prior to the lewis bout with
the children eating thing, you cannot help being moved to tears
when he talks about the loss of his daughter and that he does
not want to know if anyone was responsible because he is afraid
of losing it. this is the mike tyson comeback in my book.
There is no stopping you, is there?
i won't get into this ... cheers.
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jake lammotta vs Laurent dauthille
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The great Ruben Olivares made a remarkable comeback after losing the WBA world featherweight title to the great Explosive Thin Man, Alexis Arguello of Nicaragua by knockout in
Nov 1974

He came back an won the WBC world version of the featherweight crown when he stopped hall of fame boxing champion Bobby Chacon in 2 rounds in June 1975. Amazing comeback!

The 5 biggest comebacks in my view:
1. George Foreman winning back the heavyweight title vs Michael Moorer

2. Roberto Duran redeeming himself after the "No Mas" three years later by stopping champion Davey Moore.

3. Muhammad Ali in Zaire by stopping Big George after 7 years without the title. It was a remarkable comeback.

4. Ruben Olivares by winning the WBC featherweight crown against Bobby Chacon in 2 rounds.

5. And how about Bobby Chacon himself, peoples? He lost his crown to Olivares in '75. Seven years later after losing two more title attempts at Jr. Lightweight, he won the WBC world version of the Jr. Lightweight crown doing it in dramatic fashion against his nemesis and champion Rafael "Bazooka" Limon. The fight was the fourth fight between them. It was a brutal affair for 15 rounds. Chacon dropped Limon in the last round! That knockdown gave him the title. And to top it off, he lost his wife months before the fight. So he had to come inside the ring heartbroken ain't he?
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If it's about making a miraculous comeback in a fight you seem certain to lose - then there are several that come to mind. Like Moore - Durelle, Taylor - Anaya, Corrales - Castillo, Froch - Taylor, etc.

If it's about coming back from a long lay-off to achieve great things - then, surely, Foreman takes the price!

If it's about turning a career around - how about Tiger Flowers coming back from 10 ko defeats to take the middleweight crown from Harry Greb?
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sugarramos wrote:jake lammotta vs Laurent dauthille
Virgil Akins and Charlie 'Tombstone' Smith.

Liston against Cleveland Williams, first fight--maybe both.

Marciano and Walcott I.

Louis-'Conn I.

Frank Erne-Joe Gans I.

Jimmy McLarnin-Louis 'Kid' Kaplan

Jim Jeffries-Jim Corbett I.
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Sidney Carton wrote:
sugarramos wrote:jake lammotta vs Laurent dauthille
Virgil Akins and Charlie 'Tombstone' Smith.

Liston against Cleveland Williams, first fight--maybe both.

Marciano and Walcott I.

Louis-'Conn I.

Frank Erne-Joe Gans I.

Jimmy McLarnin-Louis 'Kid' Kaplan

Jim Jeffries-Jim Corbett I.
not exactly sure what you want me to say here or are you trying show off knowledge everyone already knows
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sugarramos wrote:
Sidney Carton wrote:
sugarramos wrote:jake lammotta vs Laurent dauthille
Virgil Akins and Charlie 'Tombstone' Smith.

Liston against Cleveland Williams, first fight--maybe both.

Marciano and Walcott I.

Louis-'Conn I.

Frank Erne-Joe Gans I.

Jimmy McLarnin-Louis 'Kid' Kaplan

Jim Jeffries-Jim Corbett I.
not exactly sure what you want me to say here or are you trying show off knowledge everyone already knows
Strange response
I suspect he was simply adding suggestions to the topic of the thread
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Waldimir Klitschko's comeback was remarkable and very sustained... He was knocked out 3 times and even written off by his tougher brother, who begged him to quit. "I appreciate your concern believe me. But it's my career, and I'm going to win the title back if it kills me. I'm going to be very hard headed about this. I have problems and they're going to be corrected." ... He went on to win 19 Title Fights in a row.

Vladimir Klitschko rehabbed his badly injured legs for 4 years and came back at 37... For the next 4 years he did nothing but win World Title Fights.
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Kalan wrote:Waldimir Klitschko's comeback was remarkable and very sustained... He was knocked out 3 times and even written off by his tougher brother, who begged him to quit. "I appreciate your concern believe me. But it's my career, and I'm going to win the title back if it kills me. I'm going to be very hard headed about this. I have problems and they're going to be corrected." ... He went on to win 19 Title Fights in a row.

Vladimir Klitschko rehabbed his badly injured legs for 4 years and came back at 37... For the next 4 years he did nothing but win World Title Fights.
If you combine those 2 you'll probably spell his name correctly
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in terms of turning a career around johnny nelson and that south american fella that lost his first 18 but ended up boxing for a world title
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davie wrote:
Kalan wrote:Waldimir Klitschko's comeback was remarkable and very sustained... He was knocked out 3 times and even written off by his tougher brother, who begged him to quit. "I appreciate your concern believe me. But it's my career, and I'm going to win the title back if it kills me. I'm going to be very hard headed about this. I have problems and they're going to be corrected." ... He went on to win 19 Title Fights in a row.

Vladimir Klitschko rehabbed his badly injured legs for 4 years and came back at 37... For the next 4 years he did nothing but win World Title Fights.
If you combine those 2 you'll probably spell his name correctly
Obviously I meant Vitali... Glad you caught that.
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