I guess I've gone the opposite direction. I was very excited when Wilder turned pro and had the added wish for success because his daughter had health struggles. I started to give up on him around the Damon McCreary fight and things really haven't improved. This is anything but a strong division and somehow Wilder has still managed to miss...well...everyone even though he's had near 40 fights. Being a Wilder fan is akin to being friends with a poor alcoholic: the next time you loan him money he'll use it to get his life on track...the next time for sure.Tanzio wrote:I am with you at this point, SaadSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Nah man, I'm old as eff. I have no emotional ties these days. I'm just clinging to the sport. That's why I post and that's why I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!love to see Wilder put the division to sleep at this point (still think he's one solid shot away from The Hitman Shuffle though).
dear mister wilder
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punchoutsb
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Re: dear mister wilder
Re: dear mister wilder
All true but having him clean out the division would be priceless.punchoutsb wrote:I guess I've gone the opposite direction. I was very excited when Wilder turned pro and had the added wish for success because his daughter had health struggles. I started to give up on him around the Damon McCreary fight and things really haven't improved. This is anything but a strong division and somehow Wilder has still managed to miss...well...everyone even though he's had near 40 fights. Being a Wilder fan is akin to being friends with a poor alcoholic: the next time you loan him money he'll use it to get his life on track...the next time for sure.Tanzio wrote:I am with you at this point, SaadSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Nah man, I'm old as eff. I have no emotional ties these days. I'm just clinging to the sport. That's why I post and that's why I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!love to see Wilder put the division to sleep at this point (still think he's one solid shot away from The Hitman Shuffle though).
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: dear mister wilder
YouTanzio wrote:All true but having him clean out the division would be priceless.punchoutsb wrote:I guess I've gone the opposite direction. I was very excited when Wilder turned pro and had the added wish for success because his daughter had health struggles. I started to give up on him around the Damon McCreary fight and things really haven't improved. This is anything but a strong division and somehow Wilder has still managed to miss...well...everyone even though he's had near 40 fights. Being a Wilder fan is akin to being friends with a poor alcoholic: the next time you loan him money he'll use it to get his life on track...the next time for sure.Tanzio wrote: I am with you at this point, Saadlove to see Wilder put the division to sleep at this point (still think he's one solid shot away from The Hitman Shuffle though).
Re: dear mister wilder
i feel tricked, that's all. very gifted athlete
wants top level attention without taking
top level risk. as i said initially, he doesn't
show the guts his overmatched opponents
are showing.
nevertheless i think he is a great boxer and
second best heavy right now.
wants top level attention without taking
top level risk. as i said initially, he doesn't
show the guts his overmatched opponents
are showing.
nevertheless i think he is a great boxer and
second best heavy right now.
Re: dear mister wilder
no, you're not, you just enjoy theSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!
status of the contrarian. i am pretty
sure your money would be on joshua,
if they fought right now.
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punchoutsb
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Re: dear mister wilder
I suppose it could be good for a laugh or two at his heaviest detractors. I'd gladly call him the best should he ever prove it. For now I'd settle for a fight against a B level Heavy before his tenth title defense and 40th fight.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:YouTanzio wrote:All true but having him clean out the division would be priceless.punchoutsb wrote:
I guess I've gone the opposite direction. I was very excited when Wilder turned pro and had the added wish for success because his daughter had health struggles. I started to give up on him around the Damon McCreary fight and things really haven't improved. This is anything but a strong division and somehow Wilder has still managed to miss...well...everyone even though he's had near 40 fights. Being a Wilder fan is akin to being friends with a poor alcoholic: the next time you loan him money he'll use it to get his life on track...the next time for sure.
Re: dear mister wilder
But, isn't he preparing for his victory lap retirement tour now?punchoutsb wrote:I suppose it could be good for a laugh or two at his heaviest detractors. I'd gladly call him the best should he ever prove it. For now I'd settle for a fight against a B level Heavy before his tenth title defense and 40th fight.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:YouTanzio wrote: All true but having him clean out the division would be priceless.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: dear mister wilder
I'm not?man wrote:no, you're not, you just enjoy theSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!
status of the contrarian. i am pretty
sure your money would be on joshua,
if they fought right now.
Re: dear mister wilder
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm not?man wrote:no, you're not, you just enjoy theSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!
status of the contrarian. i am pretty
sure your money would be on joshua,
if they fought right now.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: dear mister wilder
No clue what your point is. I'll be cheering for wilder Saturday night.
Re: dear mister wilder
me too.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No clue what your point is. I'll be cheering for wilder Saturday night.
Re: dear mister wilder
For the record: You can be a fan of a guy and still put your bet on the other guy if you think he's gonna win. I have regularly made picks that I'd be happy to be wrong about because I'd like to see the guy I'm picking against win.man wrote:no, you're not, you just enjoy theSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!
status of the contrarian. i am pretty
sure your money would be on joshua,
if they fought right now.
Re: dear mister wilder
i am not so terribly serious about this.gilgamesh wrote:For the record: You can be a fan of a guy and still put your bet on the other guy if you think he's gonna win. I have regularly made picks that I'd be happy to be wrong about because I'd like to see the guy I'm picking against win.man wrote:no, you're not, you just enjoy theSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm proud to announce I'm a wilder fan!
status of the contrarian. i am pretty
sure your money would be on joshua,
if they fought right now.
just do think that most reasonable
afficionados think AJ is the real deal.
but i do imagine that a clash of him
and wilder with both in their primes
could revive the division big time. it
is just a rare thing that two great, in
shape heavies go toe to toe and i do
not see that fight playing out very
tactically.
in case this is not obvious: i do like
wilder, i just do not like his match
making.
Re: dear mister wilder
Wilder's not a great Heavyweight. I'm still not convinced he's at the level of a Lamon Brewster or someone like that.man wrote:i am not so terribly serious about this.gilgamesh wrote:For the record: You can be a fan of a guy and still put your bet on the other guy if you think he's gonna win. I have regularly made picks that I'd be happy to be wrong about because I'd like to see the guy I'm picking against win.man wrote: no, you're not, you just enjoy the
status of the contrarian. i am pretty
sure your money would be on joshua,
if they fought right now.
just do think that most reasonable
afficionados think AJ is the real deal.
but i do imagine that a clash of him
and wilder with both in their primes
could revive the division big time. it
is just a rare thing that two great, in
shape heavies go toe to toe and i do
not see that fight playing out very
tactically.
in case this is not obvious: i do like
wilder, i just do not like his match
making.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: dear mister wilder
Wilder needs his balls hardened. Maybe enroll in this kind of training:
https://www.facebook.com/inthenow/video ... 753418596/
https://www.facebook.com/inthenow/video ... 753418596/
Re: dear mister wilder
that's the thing. his record doesn'tgilgamesh wrote:Wilder's not a great Heavyweight. I'm still not convinced he's at the level of a Lamon Brewster or someone like that.
provide any indication how good he
really is.
Re: dear mister wilder
His performances do though. He's not very good.man wrote:that's the thing. his record doesn'tgilgamesh wrote:Wilder's not a great Heavyweight. I'm still not convinced he's at the level of a Lamon Brewster or someone like that.
provide any indication how good he
really is.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: dear mister wilder
No sound evidence any of these guys are better than Brewster.
Re: dear mister wilder
i am pretty torn apart on this. nobodygilgamesh wrote:His performances do though. He's not very good.man wrote:that's the thing. his record doesn'tgilgamesh wrote:Wilder's not a great Heavyweight. I'm still not convinced he's at the level of a Lamon Brewster or someone like that.
provide any indication how good he
really is.
looks good against everybody. wilder
has great assets. i am not sure about
his balance and defensive skills, but
he does have tons of power.
to me there are similarities to the early
foreman in these respects - and no, i
do not imply deontay is as good as
george.
Re: dear mister wilder
brewster koed three pretty solid opponentsSaadOffTheDeck wrote:No sound evidence any of these guys are better than Brewster.
at his peak. could be that he walks through
wilder like a hot knife does butter. i think he
would not do that against AJ, yet of course
one doesn't know.