I wasn't wrongSFW wrote:As you spew your own hate everyday lol. Just another hypocritical whiner. Enjoy the loss, must be used to being wrong by now.asdfjkl wrote:Tipical American racist reaction.jockpunk wrote:
Lol no it doesn't. At this point they should just ban all Russians from boxing like they have in other sports.
POVETKIN RULING
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asdfjkl
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Sure you weren'tasdfjkl wrote:I wasn't wrongSFW wrote:As you spew your own hate everyday lol. Just another hypocritical whiner. Enjoy the loss, must be used to being wrong by now.asdfjkl wrote: Tipical American racist reaction.
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..and you're not biased?? SheeshKalan wrote:You're so biased and full of hate you're insane. That's like saying the only good Indian is a dead Indian. That way you're free to take their land.
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Not at all.. But I hate injustice and terrible representation, whoever it falls on... It took Hurricane Carter 20 years to clear his name.
In this case WADA did a months long investigation... VADA and the WBC who did their own investigations, and none of them could find a smattering of guilt by Povetkin that would have destroyed the Wilder fight. It was VADA who flagged an easily passed test (1/14th the allowable concentration) and misrepresented it... It was the WBC who jumped the guy and pulled recognition from the fight... It was Wilder who pulled out of the fight. Nothing Povetkin did had anything to do with the fight being cancelled.
And an American jury makes Povetkin the fall guy and rips him off for 5 million dollars... That's insanity... I wonder if Povetkin's council was paid to dump the case... Tyson was so poorly represented in his rape case that some suspected his lawyer was on the take, and purposely working to convict him.
In this case WADA did a months long investigation... VADA and the WBC who did their own investigations, and none of them could find a smattering of guilt by Povetkin that would have destroyed the Wilder fight. It was VADA who flagged an easily passed test (1/14th the allowable concentration) and misrepresented it... It was the WBC who jumped the guy and pulled recognition from the fight... It was Wilder who pulled out of the fight. Nothing Povetkin did had anything to do with the fight being cancelled.
And an American jury makes Povetkin the fall guy and rips him off for 5 million dollars... That's insanity... I wonder if Povetkin's council was paid to dump the case... Tyson was so poorly represented in his rape case that some suspected his lawyer was on the take, and purposely working to convict him.
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asdfjkl
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If you think I am, then show me where?SFW wrote:Sure you weren'tasdfjkl wrote:I wasn't wrongSFW wrote:
As you spew your own hate everyday lol. Just another hypocritical whiner. Enjoy the loss, must be used to being wrong by now.
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Enlightened-One
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"U.S. court refuses to dismiss Povetkin’s suit against Wilder"
"The US District Court for the Southern District of New York refused to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Alexander Povetkin who accused Deontay Wilder of being behind a “smear campaign” against him.
"On February 13, the jury trial rendered a verdict in this case stating that Povetkin indeed ingested meldonium after it was banned by the World Anti-Doping Association (WADA). Based on this verdict the court ruled to treat ingestion of meldonium as a fact during proceedings. However, the motion filed by Wilder to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Povetkin was denied without prejudice.
"... Plaintiffs seek to recover damages allegedly caused by the U.S. side and additional ten million dollars for both Povetkin and Ryabinskiy for “defendants’ unfettered smear campaign” against them."

"The US District Court for the Southern District of New York refused to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Alexander Povetkin who accused Deontay Wilder of being behind a “smear campaign” against him.
"On February 13, the jury trial rendered a verdict in this case stating that Povetkin indeed ingested meldonium after it was banned by the World Anti-Doping Association (WADA). Based on this verdict the court ruled to treat ingestion of meldonium as a fact during proceedings. However, the motion filed by Wilder to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Povetkin was denied without prejudice.
"... Plaintiffs seek to recover damages allegedly caused by the U.S. side and additional ten million dollars for both Povetkin and Ryabinskiy for “defendants’ unfettered smear campaign” against them."
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asdfjkl
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This could be expected, there should be justice, not a couple of fanboys acting like a judge because that would be the best for the Americans.Enlightened-One wrote:"U.S. court refuses to dismiss Povetkin’s suit against Wilder"
"The US District Court for the Southern District of New York refused to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Alexander Povetkin who accused Deontay Wilder of being behind a “smear campaign” against him.
"On February 13, the jury trial rendered a verdict in this case stating that Povetkin indeed ingested meldonium after it was banned by the World Anti-Doping Association (WADA). Based on this verdict the court ruled to treat ingestion of meldonium as a fact during proceedings. However, the motion filed by Wilder to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Povetkin was denied without prejudice.
"... Plaintiffs seek to recover damages allegedly caused by the U.S. side and additional ten million dollars for both Povetkin and Ryabinskiy for “defendants’ unfettered smear campaign” against them."
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We know Povetkin's lawyer blew or threw the case...
1... The WBC, VADA, and WADA ALL exonerated Povetkin in the Wilder case... saying there was no proof he took Meldonium when it was banned
2... Povetkin had 70 nanograms in one test... This amount was 1/14th of the concentration that was allowed by WADA... All his other tests were clear.
3... Because of different hydration levels you could easily test clear in one test and have 70 nanograms in the next... Both tests easily pass
4... Every relevant testing authority says Povetkin passed every PED test for the Wilder fight -- the jury obviously didn't hear the evidence.
5... Judd Bustein, Wilder's lawyer said the only reasonable explanation for Wilder having a test with a tiny Meldonium trace of 70 nanograms after he tested clear, is that he took Meldonium in 2016 when it was banned...
That statement is patently FALSE and contradicted by every testing authority... The jury believed it because no expert was put on to dispute it... Kent Yalowitz, Povetkin's lawyer, said all the top experts were bought up by VADA so he couldn't put anybody with any real knowledge on the stand. That doesn't make any sense.
1... The WBC, VADA, and WADA ALL exonerated Povetkin in the Wilder case... saying there was no proof he took Meldonium when it was banned
2... Povetkin had 70 nanograms in one test... This amount was 1/14th of the concentration that was allowed by WADA... All his other tests were clear.
3... Because of different hydration levels you could easily test clear in one test and have 70 nanograms in the next... Both tests easily pass
4... Every relevant testing authority says Povetkin passed every PED test for the Wilder fight -- the jury obviously didn't hear the evidence.
5... Judd Bustein, Wilder's lawyer said the only reasonable explanation for Wilder having a test with a tiny Meldonium trace of 70 nanograms after he tested clear, is that he took Meldonium in 2016 when it was banned...
That statement is patently FALSE and contradicted by every testing authority... The jury believed it because no expert was put on to dispute it... Kent Yalowitz, Povetkin's lawyer, said all the top experts were bought up by VADA so he couldn't put anybody with any real knowledge on the stand. That doesn't make any sense.
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joe strong
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This Ryabinsky promoter did the exact same thing to Don King when Jones turned up positive for the Lebedev fight. He sued King for the fight cancellation & loss of money. He won his lawsuit & King was forced to pay 1.6 million to Ryabinsky. So there is nothing different or corrupt here as the fight didn't happen because of Povetkin's inability to pass a drug test. Ryabinsky can actually thank himself for this because he kind of opened a can of worms with lawsuits like this & now it came back to bite him. Now the WBC will come down on Povetkin & his lawsuit isn't going anywhere. Everyone on this site expected a Dibella win except for a couple of posters here. I'm not an American & I expected Wilder to win his lawsuit. Ryabinsky's 34 million lawsuit will go nowhere but I'm assuming the usual suspects will give me & anyone else an essay worth of VADA, DOODA or ZABA regulations & bylaws that nobody really cares about but them... It's time to move on with your lives & accept the fact Povetkin cheated & got caught...
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asdfjkl
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But the innocent Povetkin passed the drugtest, as expected and Wilder simply never showed up in Russia, and that's why the show couldn't continue.joe strong wrote:This Ryabinsky promoter did the exact same thing to Don King when Jones turned up positive for the Lebedev fight. He sued King for the fight cancellation & loss of money. He won his lawsuit & King was forced to pay 1.6 million to Ryabinsky. So there is nothing different or corrupt here as the fight didn't happen because of Povetkin's inability to pass a drug test. Ryabinsky can actually thank himself for this because he kind of opened a can of worms with lawsuits like this & now it came back to bite him. Now the WBC will come down on Povetkin & his lawsuit isn't going anywhere. Everyone on this site expected a Dibella win except for a couple of posters here. I'm not an American & I expected Wilder to win his lawsuit. Ryabinsky's 34 million lawsuit will go nowhere but I'm assuming the usual suspects will give me & anyone else an essay worth of VADA, DOODA or ZABA regulations & bylaws that nobody really cares about but them... It's time to move on with your lives & accept the fact Povetkin cheated & got caught...
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joe strong
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Well the courts didn't see it that way just like the US courts didn't see it for Don King & Jones...asdfjkl wrote:But the innocent Povetkin passed the drugtest, as expected and Wilder simply never showed up in Russia, and that's why the show couldn't continue.joe strong wrote:This Ryabinsky promoter did the exact same thing to Don King when Jones turned up positive for the Lebedev fight. He sued King for the fight cancellation & loss of money. He won his lawsuit & King was forced to pay 1.6 million to Ryabinsky. So there is nothing different or corrupt here as the fight didn't happen because of Povetkin's inability to pass a drug test. Ryabinsky can actually thank himself for this because he kind of opened a can of worms with lawsuits like this & now it came back to bite him. Now the WBC will come down on Povetkin & his lawsuit isn't going anywhere. Everyone on this site expected a Dibella win except for a couple of posters here. I'm not an American & I expected Wilder to win his lawsuit. Ryabinsky's 34 million lawsuit will go nowhere but I'm assuming the usual suspects will give me & anyone else an essay worth of VADA, DOODA or ZABA regulations & bylaws that nobody really cares about but them... It's time to move on with your lives & accept the fact Povetkin cheated & got caught...
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I feel Povetkin's lawyer threw the case... He’s either the worst damned lawyer and the least prepared, or he took money to throw the trial to Wilder... How and why do you put on such a nothing defense in a multi-million dollar trial case???
Judd Burstine told the jury "Povetkin tested clear several times and then tested positive... The only reasonable explanation is he took Meldonium in 2016." ... That statement is patently FALSE!!! ... In fact the WBC and VADA which both colluded to destroy Ryabinski’s promotion---than admitted after a months long “investigation” that Povetkin was never shown to have taken Meldonium in 2016 because varying levels of hydration can vary much more than 70 nanograms.. Which is WAY below the level of Meldonium that is consistent with an athlete who stopped taking Meldonium in September of 2015. The tests can’t easily vary 1 microgram with varying levels of hydration – but Povetkin didn’t have a microgram in his sample.. He had 1/14th that amount. That’s why Povetkin was exonerated by WADA, VADA, and the WBC.
Judd Burstine told the jury "Povetkin tested clear several times and then tested positive... The only reasonable explanation is he took Meldonium in 2016." ... That statement is patently FALSE!!! ... In fact the WBC and VADA which both colluded to destroy Ryabinski’s promotion---than admitted after a months long “investigation” that Povetkin was never shown to have taken Meldonium in 2016 because varying levels of hydration can vary much more than 70 nanograms.. Which is WAY below the level of Meldonium that is consistent with an athlete who stopped taking Meldonium in September of 2015. The tests can’t easily vary 1 microgram with varying levels of hydration – but Povetkin didn’t have a microgram in his sample.. He had 1/14th that amount. That’s why Povetkin was exonerated by WADA, VADA, and the WBC.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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You really overestimate boxings place in America. This is an all world conspiracy. To this point wilder is the victim, luckily ryabinsky will be forced to pay him soon enough. Haymon is cheap with his, crazy you guys think he'd spend tens of millions to bribe boxing orgs, drug testing labs, judges, jury's, etc,,, to cost himself his hefty piece of wilders biggest payday by a mile. 
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You don't have to do all that just to get an unjust jury verdict for your client.
NO need to bribe judge, jury, org, VADA, and the WBC... Those are all Western entities who are biased in favor of Western interests anyway... All you have to do is bride the opposing council to throw the case.. Give him a couple million—if everything holds up on appeal and the breach of contract settlement is actually paid in full...everyone makes millions except Povetkin.
The opposing council assures Povetkin and Ryabinsky that the facts are all on their side and they'll win easily.. He calls no expert witnesses who have any credentials.. He gives an extremely weak argument to the jury.. Povetkin can't speak English anyway so it's hard for him to follow the proceedings.. The jury goes out and the opposing council and the plaintiff’s council already know they’re going to come back almost immediately with a ruling in favor of Wilder---because they heard nothing from Povetkin’s council to refute the plaintiff’s council allegation that you can’t test clear, and then have the smallest nanogram of Meldonium in your sample in later tests without taking Meldonium after the clear tests. That is patently false, but the jury doesn’t know that. Povetkin’s council presented no case whatever. They didn’t even tell the jury that WADA, VADA, and the WBC found no evidence that Povetkin took Meldonium in 2016 after months of investigation.
NO need to bribe judge, jury, org, VADA, and the WBC... Those are all Western entities who are biased in favor of Western interests anyway... All you have to do is bride the opposing council to throw the case.. Give him a couple million—if everything holds up on appeal and the breach of contract settlement is actually paid in full...everyone makes millions except Povetkin.
The opposing council assures Povetkin and Ryabinsky that the facts are all on their side and they'll win easily.. He calls no expert witnesses who have any credentials.. He gives an extremely weak argument to the jury.. Povetkin can't speak English anyway so it's hard for him to follow the proceedings.. The jury goes out and the opposing council and the plaintiff’s council already know they’re going to come back almost immediately with a ruling in favor of Wilder---because they heard nothing from Povetkin’s council to refute the plaintiff’s council allegation that you can’t test clear, and then have the smallest nanogram of Meldonium in your sample in later tests without taking Meldonium after the clear tests. That is patently false, but the jury doesn’t know that. Povetkin’s council presented no case whatever. They didn’t even tell the jury that WADA, VADA, and the WBC found no evidence that Povetkin took Meldonium in 2016 after months of investigation.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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You're just a kid.
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asdfjkl
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Then the courts made a massive mistake, which is not that remarkeble, since they are American as well.joe strong wrote:Well the courts didn't see it that way just like the US courts didn't see it for Don King & Jones...asdfjkl wrote:But the innocent Povetkin passed the drugtest, as expected and Wilder simply never showed up in Russia, and that's why the show couldn't continue.joe strong wrote:This Ryabinsky promoter did the exact same thing to Don King when Jones turned up positive for the Lebedev fight. He sued King for the fight cancellation & loss of money. He won his lawsuit & King was forced to pay 1.6 million to Ryabinsky. So there is nothing different or corrupt here as the fight didn't happen because of Povetkin's inability to pass a drug test. Ryabinsky can actually thank himself for this because he kind of opened a can of worms with lawsuits like this & now it came back to bite him. Now the WBC will come down on Povetkin & his lawsuit isn't going anywhere. Everyone on this site expected a Dibella win except for a couple of posters here. I'm not an American & I expected Wilder to win his lawsuit. Ryabinsky's 34 million lawsuit will go nowhere but I'm assuming the usual suspects will give me & anyone else an essay worth of VADA, DOODA or ZABA regulations & bylaws that nobody really cares about but them... It's time to move on with your lives & accept the fact Povetkin cheated & got caught...
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The Innocence Project is all about reversing terrible convictions that the American criminal justice system renders.
So far they've exonerated 100's of innocent, but previously convicted felons.
So far they've exonerated 100's of innocent, but previously convicted felons.
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Kalan wrote:The Innocence Project is all about reversing terrible convictions that the American criminal justice system renders.
So far they've exonerated 100's of innocent, but previously convicted felons.
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joe strong
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I do find it amusing how you are in denial of his cheating tactics. He couldn't win his case from the first failed test that cost Wilder millions. It was Povetkin's fault that the fight didn't happen. Maybe if he didn't use a drug that was meant for heart patients as a way of cheating even before it was illegal then he wouldn't of had these problems. When he finally got clearance from the WBC he failed another test with a drug that was banned in 2008. I'm not an American & I don't follow the American judicial system but it doesn't change the fact that he failed 2 tests just like Lucas Browne & AMERICAN Antonio Tarver. At the end of the day cheaters never win & they eventually get caught...asdfjkl wrote:Then the courts made a massive mistake, which is not that remarkeble, since they are American as well.joe strong wrote:Well the courts didn't see it that way just like the US courts didn't see it for Don King & Jones...asdfjkl wrote: But the innocent Povetkin passed the drugtest, as expected and Wilder simply never showed up in Russia, and that's why the show couldn't continue.
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asdfjkl
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The second test has nothing to deal with this case, and in the first test he turned out to be innocent. On top of that, he used it on docters advice, unlike Stiverne for example. Meldonium can be compared to an aspirine, it's not like some kind of superdrugs, on top of that, Povetkin only used it when it was allowed and even proved that. Wilder never deserved a dime of Povetkin his millions, since he never showed up on the fight and on top of that, he chickened out even before the WBC had a final ruling, long before the match, long before Wilder even traveled to Russia at all. I would be surprised if Wilder even bought a ticket to Russia at all, since he could have known back in 2015 that Povetkin used Meldonium when it used to be allowed, which could easely be ckecked, especially since Povetkin never lied.joe strong wrote:I do find it amusing how you are in denial of his cheating tactics. He couldn't win his case from the first failed test that cost Wilder millions. It was Povetkin's fault that the fight didn't happen. Maybe if he didn't use a drug that was meant for heart patients as a way of cheating even before it was illegal then he wouldn't of had these problems. When he finally got clearance from the WBC he failed another test with a drug that was banned in 2008. I'm not an American & I don't follow the American judicial system but it doesn't change the fact that he failed 2 tests just like Lucas Browne & AMERICAN Antonio Tarver. At the end of the day cheaters never win & they eventually get caught...asdfjkl wrote:Then the courts made a massive mistake, which is not that remarkeble, since they are American as well.joe strong wrote: Well the courts didn't see it that way just like the US courts didn't see it for Don King & Jones...
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Baby Face Finster
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Povetkin is without a doubt a cheat. Just look at how his body changed over the last few years. Clear sign of peds for me. All these people defending him are probably closret racists.
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asdfjkl
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Show me? He barely changed in weight, he barely changed in anything else. Wilder his physics and weight changed a lot more for example, in a lot less time.Baby Face Finster wrote:Povetkin is without a doubt a cheat. Just look at how his body changed over the last few years. Clear sign of peds for me. All these people defending him are probably closret racists.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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You're clearly a racistasdfjkl wrote:Show me? He barely changed in weight, he barely changed in anything else. Wilder his physics and weight changed a lot more for example, in a lot less time.Baby Face Finster wrote:Povetkin is without a doubt a cheat. Just look at how his body changed over the last few years. Clear sign of peds for me. All these people defending him are probably closret racists.
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asdfjkl
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?? You must be nutsSaadOffTheDeck wrote:You're clearly a racistasdfjkl wrote:Show me? He barely changed in weight, he barely changed in anything else. Wilder his physics and weight changed a lot more for example, in a lot less time.Baby Face Finster wrote:Povetkin is without a doubt a cheat. Just look at how his body changed over the last few years. Clear sign of peds for me. All these people defending him are probably closret racists.
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joe strong
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Povetkin is yesterday's news now. He will fade away or come back in a year. There are big fights coming & none of them include Povetkin. Maybe he can get B.J Flores in Russia...