In my short time on this forum I have never submitted any kind of list or ranking, all time, p4p, weightclass or whatever.
Partly because the arguments just go ON and ON and us boxing people can be really stubborn.
Also, though I have nothing against putting up a personal ranking of all-timers, I think that the most solid ranking a fan can make is of fighters he has seen in HIS/HER time. Younger guys will inevitably know less about previous generations of fighters, will have seen less footage and this has a big impact on how you rate a fighter. However much you read about a fighter, watching footage leaves more of an impression.
That's why I rerspect the opinions of older fans, coz they will have SEEN more.
Anyway, I gotta go. Will be back to put up a ranking - MY time greatest. Don't know if it will be p4p or one or more weight class, but if anyone wants to respond, don't wait for me.
btw, I was born '78
MY time greatest.
Im very young born in 1987, and I like you idea however i know more about boxing history then our currtent state.
The best that i have scene however would be as follows
Overall Lb for Lb
1) Toney
2) Roy Jones
3) Hopkins
4) Trinidad
5) Mayweather ( he will be number one though)
Favorite
1) Trinidad
2) Floyd Mayweather
3) Lennox Lewis
Hardest Competition
1) Oscar De La Hoya
2) Trinidad
Heavyweight
1) Lewis
2)Holyfeild
The best that i have scene however would be as follows
Overall Lb for Lb
1) Toney
2) Roy Jones
3) Hopkins
4) Trinidad
5) Mayweather ( he will be number one though)
Favorite
1) Trinidad
2) Floyd Mayweather
3) Lennox Lewis
Hardest Competition
1) Oscar De La Hoya
2) Trinidad
Heavyweight
1) Lewis
2)Holyfeild
De La Hoya.
Ultimate warrior, throwback to times when a fighter fought the best. To have the audacity to even think of challenging B-Hop for the middle...
Roy Jones.
Dominated everyone he fought and looked amazing while doing it. Wins over Hopkins and Toney are like fine wine, they looked better as time passed.
Whitaker.
I hated him in his prime and only watched to see him lose. But looking back, he was just so hard to beat. Even passed his best he was still a nightmare to fight
Tyson.
Can't ignore prime Tyson. For me ranks above any heavyweight since. Helps that he breathed life into boxing in the late 80's
Hopkins.
Just a solid champ, but a brilliant competitor. Had to lose sometime and efforts against Taylor are no disgrace, but will have to see what Taylor is really about now.
Can't rank these, but guess they would be my top 5.
Also liked Azumah Nelson, Mike McCallum.
Mayweather - will wait and see, but can't see him below second. Has DLH to beat, in my eyes.
Ultimate warrior, throwback to times when a fighter fought the best. To have the audacity to even think of challenging B-Hop for the middle...
Roy Jones.
Dominated everyone he fought and looked amazing while doing it. Wins over Hopkins and Toney are like fine wine, they looked better as time passed.
Whitaker.
I hated him in his prime and only watched to see him lose. But looking back, he was just so hard to beat. Even passed his best he was still a nightmare to fight
Tyson.
Can't ignore prime Tyson. For me ranks above any heavyweight since. Helps that he breathed life into boxing in the late 80's
Hopkins.
Just a solid champ, but a brilliant competitor. Had to lose sometime and efforts against Taylor are no disgrace, but will have to see what Taylor is really about now.
Can't rank these, but guess they would be my top 5.
Also liked Azumah Nelson, Mike McCallum.
Mayweather - will wait and see, but can't see him below second. Has DLH to beat, in my eyes.
De La Hoya.
Ultimate warrior, throwback to times when a fighter fought the best. To have the audacity to even think of challenging B-Hop for the middle...
Roy Jones.
Dominated everyone he fought and looked amazing while doing it. Wins over Hopkins and Toney are like fine wine, they looked better as time passed.
Whitaker.
I hated him in his prime and only watched to see him lose. But looking back, he was just so hard to beat. Even passed his best he was still a nightmare to fight
Tyson.
Can't ignore prime Tyson. For me ranks above any heavyweight since. Helps that he breathed life into boxing in the late 80's
Hopkins.
Just a solid champ, but a brilliant competitor. Had to lose sometime and efforts against Taylor are no disgrace, but will have to see what Taylor is really about now.
Can't rank these, but guess they would be my top 5.
Also liked Azumah Nelson, Mike McCallum.
Mayweather - will wait and see, but can't see him below second. Has DLH to beat, in my eyes.
Ultimate warrior, throwback to times when a fighter fought the best. To have the audacity to even think of challenging B-Hop for the middle...
Roy Jones.
Dominated everyone he fought and looked amazing while doing it. Wins over Hopkins and Toney are like fine wine, they looked better as time passed.
Whitaker.
I hated him in his prime and only watched to see him lose. But looking back, he was just so hard to beat. Even passed his best he was still a nightmare to fight
Tyson.
Can't ignore prime Tyson. For me ranks above any heavyweight since. Helps that he breathed life into boxing in the late 80's
Hopkins.
Just a solid champ, but a brilliant competitor. Had to lose sometime and efforts against Taylor are no disgrace, but will have to see what Taylor is really about now.
Can't rank these, but guess they would be my top 5.
Also liked Azumah Nelson, Mike McCallum.
Mayweather - will wait and see, but can't see him below second. Has DLH to beat, in my eyes.
My favourite fighters from my era:
Mike McCallum, his second fight with Kalambay (i think it was in Italy) was one of the most interesting fights i ever watched. Not a see-saw battle with moments of explosive action but saturated with skill. Changed my outlook on boxing forever.
Azumah Nelson. Another warrior. I was in England when he beat McCdonnell, memorable fight, but my all-time (sorry, my-time) favourite match was when Azumah went to Oz to school Fenech (another warrior).
Morales, Barrera, Holyfield, Chavez, Daniel Zarragoza, Gonzalez and Carbajal, Wayne McCullough.
When I grow old and grey these (and more) are the fighters I will argue the merits of with young punks on boxrec.
Mike McCallum, his second fight with Kalambay (i think it was in Italy) was one of the most interesting fights i ever watched. Not a see-saw battle with moments of explosive action but saturated with skill. Changed my outlook on boxing forever.
Azumah Nelson. Another warrior. I was in England when he beat McCdonnell, memorable fight, but my all-time (sorry, my-time) favourite match was when Azumah went to Oz to school Fenech (another warrior).
Morales, Barrera, Holyfield, Chavez, Daniel Zarragoza, Gonzalez and Carbajal, Wayne McCullough.
When I grow old and grey these (and more) are the fighters I will argue the merits of with young punks on boxrec.
Nelson was an absolute marvel to watch in the ring. His fights with Fenech are a bit inconclusive though. Nelson reportedly had flu going into the fight with Fenech and in the rematch Jeff's notoriously brittle hands were seriously damaged.bigzab wrote:My favourite fighters from my era:
Mike McCallum, his second fight with Kalambay (i think it was in Italy) was one of the most interesting fights i ever watched. Not a see-saw battle with moments of explosive action but saturated with skill. Changed my outlook on boxing forever.
Azumah Nelson. Another warrior. I was in England when he beat McCdonnell, memorable fight, but my all-time (sorry, my-time) favourite match was when Azumah went to Oz to school Fenech (another warrior).
Morales, Barrera, Holyfield, Chavez, Daniel Zarragoza, Gonzalez and Carbajal, Wayne McCullough.
When I grow old and grey these (and more) are the fighters I will argue the merits of with young punks on boxrec.
I'm also a big fan of McCallum and think he's underrated by most. I'd love to get a copy of his figth with Julian Jackson.
I was born in 1961. Growing up in the seventies, there were so many fighters to follow. Ali was always making news, but not everyone was a huge fan back then. Now he seems universaly loved. Some of the top fighters I really enjoyed watching and got me hooked were, Hagler, Monzon, Danny Lopez, Carlos Palomino, Carlos Zarate, Alexis Arguello, Pipino Cuevas, and of course the Heavyweight division in the seventies was always great to watch.
pugexpug wrote:I was born in 1961. Growing up in the seventies, there were so many fighters to follow. Ali was always making news, but not everyone was a huge fan back then. Now he seems universaly loved. Some of the top fighters I really enjoyed watching and got me hooked were, Hagler, Monzon, Danny Lopez, Carlos Palomino, Carlos Zarate, Alexis Arguello, Pipino Cuevas, and of course the Heavyweight division in the seventies was always great to watch.
You lived through something of a golden era.
I really hope Jaclem finds his way to this thread...
It was a glorious time, and Boxing seemed very popular. It was on prime time TV on occasion, and all the time it was televised on the main stations on Sat. and Sun. afternnons. Cable TV wasnt even around. Boxing magazines were all over the place too and I couldnt wait to pick up the new copies. The Ring, Boxing ILLustrated, World Boxing, some other also.
Some of the sensational TV warriors of the late 70s early 80s were, Bobby Chacon, Danny Lopez , Bazooka Limon, Arguello, Ray Mancini, Cornelius-Boza-Edwards, Sean Ogrady, Andt Gannigan, Jaime Garza, Matthew Saad Muhamed, Yaqui Lopez, Qwawi, and of course Leonard and Hagler and Hearns. Many more. Ive seen all these guys on network TV.
Id say that the two fights are the best fights i have seen by an Australian fighter even though Fenech lost the second.Ezzard wrote:Nelson was an absolute marvel to watch in the ring. His fights with Fenech are a bit inconclusive though. Nelson reportedly had flu going into the fight with Fenech and in the rematch Jeff's notoriously brittle hands were seriously damaged.bigzab wrote:My favourite fighters from my era:
Mike McCallum, his second fight with Kalambay (i think it was in Italy) was one of the most interesting fights i ever watched. Not a see-saw battle with moments of explosive action but saturated with skill. Changed my outlook on boxing forever.
Azumah Nelson. Another warrior. I was in England when he beat McCdonnell, memorable fight, but my all-time (sorry, my-time) favourite match was when Azumah went to Oz to school Fenech (another warrior).
Morales, Barrera, Holyfield, Chavez, Daniel Zarragoza, Gonzalez and Carbajal, Wayne McCullough.
When I grow old and grey these (and more) are the fighters I will argue the merits of with young punks on boxrec.
I'm also a big fan of McCallum and think he's underrated by most. I'd love to get a copy of his figth with Julian Jackson.