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p4p1 wrote:
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p4p1 wrote: Punching power? Stamina sure, heart is totally unknown Romero has never been in a war likely because everyone he catches clean goes to sleep. Punching power is a wash there's really no way to seperate them most guys they hit clean take a nap. That leaves Hendo with better stamina compared to Yoel better wrestling and punching power.
Yes, punching power. So everything I've refuted/laughed at has been correct.
And how do you know Hendo punches harder?
:lol:
You're obviously too ruffled to converse. I've never seen you contradict yourself this much. I'd be willing to bet anybody would agree that Dan punches harder. Romero is much more dangerous with elbows and knees. I agree that he'd finish bisping when he hurt him which makes the likelihood of that fight being as good very miniscule. You've already agreed that Romero isn't better at everything so at least you've learned something today. You're welcome.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Yes, punching power. So everything I've refuted/laughed at has been correct.
And how do you know Hendo punches harder?
:lol:
You're obviously too ruffled to converse. I've never seen you contradict yourself this much. I'd be willing to bet anybody would agree that Dan punches harder. Romero is much more dangerous with elbows and knees. I agree that he'd finish bisping when he hurt him which makes the likelihood of that fight being as good very miniscule. You've already agreed that Romero isn't better at everything so at least you've learned something today. You're welcome.
I don't think that's true normally when Romero punches someone clean they go to sleep. I agreed about the stamina, though Hendo isn't exactly a cardio machine himself he is just able to fight once he's started to gas. Yoel seems to think that you have to give maximum effort in everything you throw.

I still think Romero is better at everywhere. You know damn well i didn't mean every attribute Romero has is better than Hendos. Being better everywhere simply means he's better on the ground, striking or grappling standing. Which he is, he's a better puncher as well even if he *arguably* doesn't punch as hard as Hendo - whose notable knockouts are almost all against chinny fighters Romero would eat up a prime Hendo and we all know it. Silva did it, so would Romero and Weidman.

Romero should push for a title shot at 205, after the next fight there's no contenders and I would love to see him and Cormier tangle. He's clearly not getting his shot at 185 anytime soon. Bispings too busy fighting old men and retired WWs.
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Eat up prime hendo? You've lost your mind. Maybe you should go watch Kennedy beat the shit out of him and wipe off a bit of that invincibility you've created. Though he got lucky on the time, he showed plenty of heart there. Prime hendo had a better chin too.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Eat up prime hendo? You've lost your mind. Maybe you should go watch Kennedy beat the poo out of him and wipe off a bit of that invincibility you've created. Though he got lucky on the time, he showed plenty of heart there. Prime hendo had a better chin too.
But still got raped by Silva, who you claim is overrated.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Eat up prime hendo? You've lost your mind. Maybe you should go watch Kennedy beat the poo out of him and wipe off a bit of that invincibility you've created. Though he got lucky on the time, he showed plenty of heart there. Prime hendo had a better chin too.
But still got raped by Silva, who you claim is overrated.
He lost, far from raped. Nobody rates shit, he's overrated in the default goat mode. Obviously one of the best ever. So is hendo. Romero is in your head. Dynamic athlete though.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Eat up prime hendo? You've lost your mind. Maybe you should go watch Kennedy beat the poo out of him and wipe off a bit of that invincibility you've created. Though he got lucky on the time, he showed plenty of heart there. Prime hendo had a better chin too.
But still got raped by Silva, who you claim is overrated.
He lost, far from raped. Nobody rates poo, he's overrated in the default goat mode. Obviously one of the best ever. So is hendo. Romero is in your head. Dynamic athlete though.
He got hurt standing then held down and beat down before getting choked. His only effective offence was holding Anderson down while covering his mouth. There were even gifs going around for a long one with parts of the fight and the finish with some clever blurring and at the end they would say raped.

Maybe I'm overrating Romero but he is incredible and I would certainly favour him over anyone that Hendo has beaten and many that he lost to.

Hendo might be one of the best ever but there is a heap of guys who are above him due to their consistency of which Hendo had none. Hendo barely makes the top 10, his biggest win came against a guy who had just got his head kicked into the stand against a prime Cro Cop.
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Ok
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Is it just me or does Khabib give the best interviews in MMA at the moment?
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p4p1 wrote:Is it just me or does Khabib give the best interviews in MMA at the moment?
Calling Tony's glasses cheap...lol

Tony's interview was good as well. I enjoyed listening to him dismiss Mcgregor. This fight truly is for the best at LW.
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The Eagle taken to the hospital with weight cutting issues. Fight off.
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Definitely not buying it now. Ferguson has to be livid.
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There should be consequences for this. Let McGregor/Ferguson happen and send Khabib to the back of the line. Make him fight someone like Alvarez, RDA, or Barboza to get back into the title picture.
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I agree, Ferguson is much more deserving anyway.
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cletomex wrote:The Eagle taken to the hospital with weight cutting issues. Fight off.
This is extremely upsetting!
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I agree, Ferguson is much more deserving anyway.
I have to agree as well. Ferguson has been much more active. It's really frustrating that this has to happen. With all the time Khabib has had to take off due to injuries, and all the talking he has done, he finally gets himself in a great position, and can't make weight properly. Where the hell is his nutrition/strength and conditioning guy?
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Impractical Poster wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I agree, Ferguson is much more deserving anyway.
I have to agree as well. Ferguson has been much more active. It's really frustrating that this has to happen. With all the time Khabib has had to take off due to injuries, and all the talking he has done, he finally gets himself in a great position, and can't make weight properly. Where the hell is his nutrition/strength and conditioning guy?
All those inactive years make the cut harder. He needs to eat some humble pie. I liked his shit talking, but you can't flap your gums and not show up. Count me as a former fan.
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That is just about the suckiest news. Dang!!
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My excitement level just dropped to slightly above 0 for this card.

Hopefully the UFC can have a quick turn around for both guys and they fight on the next card or something. 210 is a month away I hope they just move the fight there.
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Khabibs not a small LW by any means but he hardly looks like the biggest. Just a case of a guy who didn't cut weight growing up like many wrestlers do still not getting the hang of it?
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p4p1 wrote:My excitement level just dropped to slightly above 0 for this card.

Hopefully the UFC can have a quick turn around for both guys and they fight on the next card or something. 210 is a month away I hope they just move the fight there.
What really sucks about this is it gives Conor's excuse to not fight Khabib validity. I really want to see this fight. But, if they end up either giving Ferguson someone else, or securing him a shot at Conor because of this, you can't blame them. Their PPV sales probably just dropped significantly for this card. This fight was the main event for me.
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I'd make Conor fight Ferguson. Khabib hasn't really done anything anyway. Just past laurels, obvious talent and a nick Diaz leftover. I'm surprised p4p isn't bothered by his ranking.
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p4p1 wrote:Khabibs not a small LW by any means but he hardly looks like the biggest. Just a case of a guy who didn't cut weight growing up like many wrestlers do still not getting the hang of it?
Khabib has been doing combat sports since he was a child. He has much weight cutting experience as anybody.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd make Conor fight Ferguson. Khabib hasn't really done anything anyway. Just past laurels, obvious talent and a nick Diaz leftover. I'm surprised p4p isn't bothered by his ranking.
Yeah because the way he dominated RDA and Johnson among others isn't impressive. :lol:

No point in giving Feeguson Conor yet anyway, nobody seems to know when or if he will fight again.
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Ferguson turned down Johnson as a replacement.
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He's always impressive but he's had 2 fights in years. You're against gsp getting anything off of his past but your boy khabib beats a guy outside the top 30 and a backside top 10 and he earned it. :roll:
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