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[Seamus]

It's pretty frustrating, but tonight I had to watch the 2nd Hiroyuki Ebihara v Pone Kingpetch fight that ended in a controversial SD win for the Thai fighter. Unfortunately only 11 rds are online, but for those rounds I had it 6-2-3 for Ebihara. It was close, and Kingpetch's long hard jab was the better of the two, but from what I saw, Ebihara was a little better with combinations and pressuring his taller opponent.

[Counter-puncher]

You guys are so good at digging up YouTube fights. Can anyone find and score the two Chaplin/page robberies and Fletcher/Jackson? The latter was a war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwnvl8Bbgg

I'm afraid, unless I've missed something, that Dokes, Cooney and Diggs are the only Chaplin fights available.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You guys are so good at digging up YouTube fights. Can anyone find and score the two Chaplin/page robberies and Fletcher/Jackson? The latter was a war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwnvl8Bbgg

I'm afraid, unless I've missed something, that Dokes, Cooney and Diggs are the only Chaplin fights available.

Thanks, haven't seen this since it aired. George got robbed so badly in the first fight that he got a rematch and they did it to him again.

[Counter-puncher]

I've never even heard of george Chaplin, which tells you where I'm at

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I've never even heard of george Chaplin, which tells you where I'm at

solid fringe guy, he kicked Greg's ass though.

[Seamus]

Think he gave Coetzee a tough fight as well if my memory is correct.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Think he gave Coetzee a tough fight as well if my memory is correct.

He was tricky, won a few rounds off of Coetzee & Dokes. Page didn't win 6 rounds in the two fights combined and won them both.

[Seamus]

Hiroyuki Ebihara vs Jose Severino

Know need to post a scorecard since I had Ebihara winning all 15 rds for a score of 75-60. The 3 judges all had Ebihara winning by 75-66, which would translate to 9-0-6 on rds. About the only thing i could say about the Brazilian challenger is that he's durable. He ended his 35 fight career having never been stopped.

[Counter-puncher]

Counter, if you liked Ramos-Suh, then you will love the now legendary fight between Mando Ramos and Sugar Ramos. A 10 round blood-bath war. Here we go, California scoring in effect. 1 point for a winner of the round, an additional point if a knockdown is scored and no points for an even round.

Round 1: Mando
Round 2: Mando
Round 3: Even
Round 4: Sugar
Round 5: Mando
Round 6: Mando
Round 7: Sugar
Round 8: Sugar
Round 9: Sugar
Round 10: Mando

Total: 5-4 Mando Ramos

From rounds 3 to the end there is only minimal commentary due to the west coast TV station having to switch to the news and they would comment only sporadically. Again, what a war!

I found this quite sad to watch, to be honest, reminded me of Napoles-Stracey more than somewhat. Sugar had lost his legs, he was a beautiful graceful mover at his peak and his legs and upper body movement had lost their elasticity. His reflexes weren't there so he was eating shots that wouldn't touch him at his best, and he was eating them clean and his punch resistance was gone too. So he was reduced to playing a sort of bargain basement Frazier-lite, walking straight in to load up on hooks and uppercuts. With that in mind it's remarkable he did as well as he did, I don't think Mando would have lived with the Sugar of three years previous. Mando I knew more as a typical Mexican left hooker but I was really impressed with his snappy crisp jab, and he throws the right hand beautifully, really snaps off the ball of the back foot and it comes through straight as an arrow and with perfect extension

Anyways:

Mando
Mando
Mando
Sugar
Sugar
Mando
Mando
Sugar
Mando
Mando

7-3 Mando I'm taking Laguna to beat him in the title shot he earned with this win, I'll try and find that now

[Counter-puncher]

I didn't score Laguna- Ramos in the end, I've had a glass of wine and my concentration isn't all that. What a fight though, a doozy to score from the looks of it. Laguna looked majestic early on, that Panamanian greased-at-the-double-jointed-hips style and footwork, laser-sharp with jabs and pott-shotting lead rights, but Ramos made him fight in the middle rounds and it seemed to be coming to boiling point when it was stopped. Was it punches or a butt that caused Mandos cut(s), it was impossible to tell on that film.

[scartissue]

I know, the film was very murky. But I have never read anything to the contrary that it was anything but punches that sliced open Mando.

[Counter-puncher]

I know, the film was very murky. But I have never read anything to the contrary that it was anything but punches that sliced open Mando.

Laguna was landing those slashing right hands which will cause a cut

[Seamus]

Orlando Canizales vs Billy Hardy I

R1.10-9 OC
R2.10-9 OC
R3.10-9 BH
R4.10-9 OC
R5.10-9 BH
R6.10-9 OC
R7.10-9 OC
R8.10-9 OC
R9.10-8 OC (Hardy takes a knee after a left to the body)
R10.10-9 OC
R11.10-9 BH
R12.10-9 BH

Orlando Canizales 116-111

I just didn't see this fight as close as the judges who had Canizales winning by 2-1 pts while the other gave it to Hardy by 3. Hardy scored well with his jab and the occasional straight right, but he was outworked by the harder punching Canizales for most of the fight.

[Seamus]

Veeraphol Sahaprom vs Daorung Chuvatana

R1.10-9 DC
R2.10-9 DC
R3.10-9 DC
R4.10-9 DC
R5.10-9 DC
R6.10-9 VS
R7.10-9 VS
R8.10-9 VS
R9.10-9 VS
R10.10-10 Even
R11.10-9 VS
R12.10-9 VS

Veeraphol Sahaprom 115-114

What a performance by the 3-0 challenger to take the WBA Bantamweight title from the 55-5-3 champion. Chuvatana dictated the pace over the first 5 and was successful with flurries when he pinned Sahaprom against the ropes. In the 6th round Sahaprom suddenly solved the champion and began moving off the ropes, jabbing more effectively, and slipping and countering beautifully for the rest of the bout.

[Counter-puncher]

^^ that sounds like a good one, I like Chuvatana's style and his fight with Konadu is a good one, but he wasn't the fighter Veeraphol was

[scartissue]

Just watched the second bout between Albert Davila and Frankie Duarte. Man, what a fast-paced bout. Over before I knew it. 10 point must system in effect.

Round 1: 10-9 Duarte
Round 2: 10-9 Davila
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-8 Davila (Davila scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 10-9 Davila
Round 6: 10-9 Duarte
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Duarte
Round 9: 10-9 Davila
Round 10: Bout stopped due to a cut on Davila's left eye

Total through 9 completed rounds: 88-85 Davila

Can't say enough about this fight. Loved it when it took place and loved watching it again. Davila felt hard done by as the cut was apparently from a butt earlier in the fight. But fortunes kept changing in this bout to the point where it was still anybodys and I would have loved seeing it to the end. Great fight.

[Counter-puncher]

^^ this was a beauty thanks, I didn't score it just sat back and enjoyed but I'd say your card was spot-on. Another great reminder why i love watching the little guys.

I must say, whilst Mexican and Chicano fighters are more renowned for being brawlers, the boxers they do produce in the lower weights are real stylists, guys like Canto and Gilberto Roman and Davila, that fantastic rhythm with their footwork and head movement and angles, dancing in to score quick combinations and rolling and slipping and sliding to avoid the return fire.

I was watching a Roman fight the other day, he seemed to go minutes at a time without taking a shot, but managed to be so busy at the same time.

[Counter-puncher]

Guys, I know a good few of you enjoy Asian fighters, well I've got a real gem for you. Here is Lupe Pintor defending against Eijiro Murata of Japan. Here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 Murata
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Pintor
Round 4: 10-9 Murata
Round 5: 10-9 Pintor
Round 6: 10-9 Murata
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Pintor
Round 9: 10-9 Murata
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Pintor
Round 12: 10-10 Even
Round 13: 10-9 Pintor
Round 14: 10-9 Pintor
Round 15: 10-9 Murata

Total: 145-144 Pintor

Guys, what a fight! I recall seeing a clip back in the day of Murata against Chandler and I though he was just a big slapping type puncher, but seeing him in this fight in its entirety I have changed my tune. More of a clubbing puncher, but what heart. I felt like an Asian judge with all my even rounds, but you'll see what I'm talking about when you see this. An ebb and flow, a give and take that you won't believe. I didn't believe Pintor was in control until the 14th round, but then Murata actually came back to win the 15th on my card. I won't be surprised if anyone has differing rounds to me because they were all so close, but enjoyable. A really good fight and I have no problem with the draw decision.

Another really enjoyable fight 45 minutes that flew by

I love Pintors ramrod straight left and methodical stalking style thumping the body. If anything he looked the winner in the ring to me but adding up my card I had it even:

Murata
Murata
Pintor
Murata
Pintor
Pintor
Murata
Pintor
Pintor
Murata
Murata
Even
Pintor
Pintor
Murata

[Counter-puncher]

Ooooh, has anyone seen Marcel- Shibata?

Just seen a few rounds, slightly tipsy, but first impressions, this looks both an excellent technical back-and-forth and a killer to score. Two real boxers in there who every now and then explode into a fight with each other. I'm going to score this one tomorrow it looks like a mini-classic

[Seamus]

Yes, my scorecard for it is in this forum, either this thread or another.

[scartissue]

Just sat down and scored Shibata-Marcel now. Here is the way I saw it with the 5 point must system in effect.

Round 1: 5-5 Even
Round 2: 5-4 Marcel
Round 3: 5-4 Marcel
Round 4: 5-4 Shibata
Round 5: 5-5 Even
Round 6: 4-4 Even (scored it for Marcel but it appears he has a point deducted for use of the head)
Round 7: 5-4 Marcel
Round 8: 5-4 Marcel
Round 9: 5-4 Shibata
Round 10: 5-4 Shibata
Round 11: 5-5 Even
Round 12: 5-4 Marcel
Round 13: 5-4 Marcel
Round 14: 5-5 Even
Round 15: 5-4 Marcel

Total: 71-67 Marcel

A couple of really kick-ass rounds, particularly the 12th, but when Shibata was on the attack he did good but just wouldn't or couldn't sustain it. I did have an inordinate amount of even rounds here, so I'm curious how everyone else saw this one.

[Counter-puncher]

I'm into it shortly but the early rounds I saw seemed pretty even

[Counter-puncher]

Just sat down and scored Shibata-Marcel now. Here is the way I saw it with the 5 point must system in effect.

Round 1: 5-5 Even
Round 2: 5-4 Marcel
Round 3: 5-4 Marcel
Round 4: 5-4 Shibata
Round 5: 5-5 Even
Round 6: 4-4 Even (scored it for Marcel but it appears he has a point deducted for use of the head)
Round 7: 5-4 Marcel
Round 8: 5-4 Marcel
Round 9: 5-4 Shibata
Round 10: 5-4 Shibata
Round 11: 5-5 Even
Round 12: 5-4 Marcel
Round 13: 5-4 Marcel
Round 14: 5-5 Even
Round 15: 5-4 Marcel

Total: 71-67 Marcel

A couple of really kick-ass rounds, particularly the 12th, but when Shibata was on the attack he did good but just wouldn't or couldn't sustain it. I did have an inordinate amount of even rounds here, so I'm curious how everyone else saw this one.

I had it:

Marcel
Shibata
Marcel
Shibata
Even
Even 4-4
Marcel
Marcel
Shibata
Shibata
Marcel
Marcel
Marcel
Even
Marcel

70-67 Marcel

I'd never seen Marcel before, what a fighter he looks. Very reminiscent of Pedrosa, athletic and a good mover, but a big physical specimen with it, who could thump the body and be very physical on the inside with head and shoulders and uppercuts to the groin, along with the fast-moving jabbing outside game with a sneaky lead right hand thrown in like a javelin.

I haven't seen the Arguello fight but I can see how Marcel is a perfect blend of style and attributes to beat him, and a blend that would make him a difficult matchup for Abby man that ever fought at 126lbs IMO

IMO Shibatas inability to sustain attacks must have been down to all those thumping body shots, and the eight or so pretty badly low ones he took.

[Seamus]

I had Marcel winning by a point, assuming there was a deduction in the 6th. Think I've seen all his fights that are online. His bout with Arguello is missing a rd but still worth watching. Marcel totally dominates over the 1st half, then Arguello hammers him so bad it look's like the towel could be coming in, but Marcel rallies down the stretch and pulls out a clear victory. Saw his fights with Duran and Gomez as well.

[Seamus]

Veeraphol Sahaprom vs Toshiaki Nishioka I

R1.10-9 VS
R2.10-9 VS
R3.10-9 VS
R4.10-10 Even
R5.10-10 Even
R6.10-9 VS
R7.10-10 Even
R8.10-9 VS
R9.10-9 TN
R10.10-9 VS
R11.10-9 VS
R12.10-9 TN

Veeraphol Sahaprom 118-113

Sahaprom is just so cool and relaxed under pressure, just waiting for the openings and then firing back with superb accuracy. Nishioka, while very active always look's a bit uncertain of what is fight plan is.

Veeraphol Sahaprom vs Toshiaki Nishioka II

R1.10-10 Even
R2.10-10 Even
R3.10-9 TN
R4.10-9 VS
R5.10-10 Even
R6.10-9 VS
R7.10-9 TN
R8.10-9 VS
R9.10-9 VS
R10.10-10 Even
R11.10-9 VS
R12.10-9 TN

Veeraphol Sahaprom 117-115

This was an OUTSTANDING fight, the best of the three I've watched (III-I-II). Nishioka was disciplined and determined from the opening bell, and made much better use of his jab while also finding success with the uppercut. The champion however kept firing back with combinations and consistently took the fight to the challenger. All 3 of the fights between these three seem quite different.