Thurman vs Garcia Prediction?

[TimFreza]

Thoughts on this? What are you predicting?

When this fight was made, I had one conclusion in mind. Thurman would be way to good and destructive for Danny Garcia. That was over a month ago and since then I have watched countless videos of both fighters.

I came across some interesting facts:

· Danny Garcia has been the outsider for more bouts in his career then Keith Thurman has. So this is no change for Danny Garcia.
· Both have fantastic power & great chins.
· Thurman unlike Garcia, has been hurt to the body multiple times in his career so far.


So how will this play out?

· Expect both fighters to start fast. They will trade from very early in the bout.
· Neither fighter has lost before and they won’t take an 8 count to compose and recover themselves if they are hurt. So whoever goes down first will get stopped.
· Danny will come forward early. Thurman will try to negate this by throwing power shots and he will also show a willingness to brawl.
· Brawling & trading plays into Garcia’s hands.
· Despite taking some serious leather early Garcia should be able to weather the early storm and begin to break Thurman down to the body.
· Expect Thurman to win early rounds & Garcia will be in control from the mid point forcing a stoppage victory around the 8-9th.

Thurman's style is perfect for Garcia. And Thurman has to much pride to continue to fight off the back foot for large portions of the fight.

It will be a fantastic fight. However we see Danny pulling off what many feel will be another upset win.


We don't think this goes 12. We think Danny will win this in stunning fashion.

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[SaadOffTheDeck]

Garcia by close Dec.

[lazboy]

I really like the prediction. Although Thurman porter was a good action fight Thurman played into porters hands trying to trade. Garcia has such crisp punches I think he's the better quality puncher. I'm hoping Garcia pulls it off.

[bnovelist]

Thurman controversial decision

[Impractical Poster]

Thurman KO

[jezzamundo]

I like Thurman by a close but fair decision.

[Kalan]

Thurman will probably win a clear decision... He's going to get Danny with jabs and straight rights fighting orthodox... and jabs and straight lefts off of the southpaw stance... A lot like he did Shawn Porter, he's going to rattle him with hooks and shots from all directions... Porter fights a smothering, charging, brawling style, with boxing in between.. He out-boxed AB by a mile but got out-boxed by the Thurmanator.. Danny will come like Porter did, but he'll load more and Thurman will sneak his shots in.

Danny's straight right is very dangerous and his left hook is very dangerous. He's a very dangerous hitter and he's a very tough guy to hurt. He's one of the strongest and toughest Welterweights ever as far as power -- and the ability to absorb the incoming and get off a counterpunch that whistles home.. This is why Pacquiao and Mayweather never fought Danny -- not because they didn't think they could outbox or outsmart Danny, but because of the possibility they could fire at the wrong moment when Garcia has a punch in flight. They're not Morales or Khan -- who get hit -- but they're human as we've seen with Pacman.

Thurman is a dangerous puncher as well.. He didn't hang big shots on Porter, who's slippery as an eel, and tough as a bowling ball, and can box and punch, but he beat him convincingly by out-boxing him.. Nailing Shawn on the chin is like nailing a 4 and 1/2 flip with a triple spin in a cliff diving contest -- where you have to time the wave action to hit the water at it's deepest moment.. It's dangerous but you can't hesitate when that fraction of an instant arrives you need to pull the trigger.. Porter won every round against AB and relaxed a bit to start the 12th and got hit on the chin.. He's lucky he wasn't hurt.. Never for a second can Thurman relax and say "I'm way ahead. I got this." ... Not in a fight at this level with these top Welterweights.. Thurman has to be alert every second, clear through to the final bell.

The thing with Thurman is he beat Robert Guerrero by a much wider aggregate score than Mayweather or Garcia beat him... He beat him 14 points worse than Mayweather and put him on his back for a 9-count.. Keith boxed better because he had to protect a huge swelling on his forehead caused by a massive headbutt from Guerrero.. So when his forehead blew up he made sure Guerrero never hit him there and boxed super well..

But that's the kind of caution you need all the time with big hitters.. Make sure they don't hang one on you like Mosley did to Mayweather.. Mosley was never a great finisher and he didn't tear savagely after the win.. You need that killer instinct.. If you got somebody on wobbly legs you don't let him bluff you.. You stay on him and get him out.. You saw Luis Collazo against Sammy Vasquez recently.. 4 or 5 times Collazo had a favored opponent hurt bad and he always let him get away.. Especially the Hatton fight and even Thurman.. For the first time in his life LC turned into a cold blooded killer.. Better late than never cuz that's how you do it.

[punchoutsb]

I want Thurman by KO, but I think Garcia wins by stoppage in the championship rounds.

[Evander]

Hard fight to call.
Keith is very explosive and can catch an opponent on any number of punches in a flurry because he throws with passion and at many times in the right position to avoid incoming.
That may suggest defensive power punching is less powerful than landing a shot in one forward motion and on the runway so to speak.
It's a tough call when you can see outcomes in every single round for both fighters.
If Garcia shapes up quickly he has it in him to defeat Thurman.

[magwitch]

A great fight! That’s my prediction.
Thurman to break him down in my opinion - although he’s perfectly likely to ship one at some point. As long as it’s not a hammer blow, I expect Thurman to win. He might even make it spectacularly one-sided....are we about to see the best of Thurman so far?

ps. Can any of you Yanks please speculate on the ring time for this fight please?

Also - is this fight going out on the normal “free” tele in the States? I saw on one of those build-up shows that CBS or someone screened Thurman- Porter and it was the first, live, free to air, Prime time boxing show in 40 years!
Tell some details you guys please - enjoy the boxing this weekend

[ldlamb]

Prediction- it's a sure thing that I am very excited to watch this fight.

These are the kind of great fights that used to happen more often when there were only 2 belts and champs fought 4 times a year. I can't wait.

And to the previous post.....it is on free tv, CBS.

And the main event should start around 10pm Eastern (NY) Time

[brilo33]

danny boy stoppage late on

[caldo2025]

I think that this fight is going to be more of a technical matchup then people think. I watched both DSG and One Time's last two fights and both guys do A LOT of backing up. They both are high level counter punches and actually have similar punching styles. I was surprised to see how similar they really were. Both guys love to catch and shoot and have huge overhand rights thrown from the exact same angle.

I think punch stats will be lower than expected in this one but it will be more of a chess match. NO IDEA who's going to win. DSG's attack on the body in recent fights is bad news for Thurman though who's shown he's soft to the body.

[Mr. Plainview]

Garcia by controversial decision I.e Ward V Kovalev

[Ezzard]

I think at 147 Thurman is a class above Garcia and expect him to win.

[Badhusker]

I do think speed will be a factor, with Thurman being faster. I thought Lamont Peterson edged Garcia, and looked like the better boxer. Anyone remember what Garcia's face looked like after that fight? Roach really wanted Garcia for Pac because he is so much slower.

Thurman's one weakness is handling shots to the body, so we'll see if DG can exploit that. If not, Thurman all day. Guerrero is a common opponent, and Thurman beat him easily, (very nearly a KO) while DG struggled quite a few rounds.

[Tanzio]

Danny has had far more preferential treatment in the ring over the years. He got away with fouling all night v Matthysse, although I blame the Argentine boxer for not properly responding in kind. Garcia got controversial (though not robbery level) decisions v Herrera and Peterson. Since the great Khan victory he has seemed to be an annointed one.

Sometimes has been consistently more convincing in victory. Though challenged by lesser talent at times, Collazo, Guerrero and Chaves come to mind, he has always overcome the challenges, showing a very good ability to adjust, ending up dominating (with the exception of Porter).

I think that Team Danny saw something in the Porter fight that they feel they can exploit. I think they saw Thurman's willingness to trade and they believe that they can stop Sometimes. They may be correct but I think that Thurman did not feel seriously threatened by Porter's pop, which led him to be more comfortable with exchanging shots.

Danny has been in with the higher level competition (Khan, Matthysse, Peterson) than Sometimes has, but Keith has been in with the rougher customers (Chaves, Soto Karass, Collazo, Porter). Neither has faced a more talented overall opponent than they will mix it up with tonight.

This is a terrific match between two upper level pros looking to step up and be considered elite. In order for that to happen the victor needs a clear win tonight to get to the elite threshold.

This could go any of many ways tonight, given the combatants attributes. Either could win by stoppage at any point in this fight. Like many have pointed out, Sometimes has shown vulnerability to the body which could lead to a late stoppage by Danny or at least a mid fight tidal change. However, Danny has also shown vulnerability late in fights that Keith could position himself to exploit.

One thing I have not seen mentioned is Danny's tendency to cut. His (despicable) father is an absolutely brilliant cornerman, but if Sometimes can lacerate Danny early it could affect strategy and the outcome, up to and including TKO.

I am picking Sometimes by close decision but It could easily go the other way. I just hope it does not end up another gift wrapped for Team DG.

[RoyRJ]

Thurman don't get hit in the body and his footwork is good wins.

Danny if land a powefull conter punch like he did with Khan in the 6 first rounds wins.


I want Thurman to win, i hate danny's father.

[phillykid]

Danny does most of his damage in exchanges. This won't necessarily favor him here since Thurman has slightly quicker hands and more pop. If Danny throws that straight right to the body/left hook to the head combo he likes, he'll be leaving himself open to a Thurman hook.

We've seen Thurman get hurt several times to the body and even head once, however i'm not sold that Garcia can absorb shots any better since this is the first time he's actually facing a banger at welterweight.

We've seen Keith overcome adversity and make adjustments when needed. When Peterson got going, Danny didn't know what to do, and Herrera was just feeding him jabs at will. If a decent contender can outbox you and if an average hitter like Peterson can batter and discourage you. then you're gonna have trouble with someone who can move/box and punch like Thurman.

And i'm not sure Garcia has that extra gear to adjust. Garcia is very similar to Trinidad in a way, in that he's stiff and technically sound against certain fighters (the kind that just stand right in front of you) but has trouble adapting to others, yet remains dangerous all the way because they are committed if nothing else.

Thurman has to be weary throughout because Garcia will force a shootout if need be which may compell him to go for a knockout himself, in which case anything can happen. Good chance that this isn't going 12. Logic tells me Thurman but won't be surprised at a Garcia win.


short version - Whatever, i'ts gonna be a great fight.