Bellew ate all the pies

[Tuan_Jim]

I abandoned using the weigh in to decide who would win a fight after Bowe/Holyfield III. In this case however Haye looks like a fighter and Bellew looks like one of the blokes in the pub who will be screaming at the TV tomorrow night.

[Cas]

Haye looks in great shape.

Bellew looks soft, but then again so does Tyson Fury and we all know what happened to Wlad..

I wouldn't read to much into this.

[forcefraser]

To be fair Fury looked in decent nick when he fought Wlad. Plus he was bigger than him.

Dees fists looks like he's just back from a bread and dripping camp

[ShadrachSimmo]

Those are great.

I really don't understand the lack of definition in Bellew's biceps. It looks like he has no muscles at all. Incredibly strange for a boxer.

They're brilliant. They look so exaggerated as if he's saying look at me I'm not fat.

[coneye]

Just putting on weight is not the way to win this fight , IF Bellew had any chance what so ever it was going to be with speed , and this excess body fat , will not help that ,, You also have to look at just basics in weight loss and gain , and its all simple reallyy ,,, Burn of more calories than you put in , lose weight ,, put in more calories than you burn , gain weight

If Bellew had been working has hard has he needs to ,, he would'nt look like that .. Its not started yet and i am starting to feel ike i've been watching and listening to a Wrestling event . WWE or whatever its called

[Coco]

It looks like he trained harder for the Creed fight!
It was always going to be a good payday for Bellew, and fast car knows how to sell a fight, esp with Bellews mouth! But this just says to me he will take his cash and run. I see him quitting early before getting hurt.

[BitPlayer]

I think the lean weight disparity is a far issue for Bellew than him carrying a bit of flab. Hell it may even help a bit as long as he's fit enough, and when he's not even had to weight cut I imagine he likely will.

[Taansend]

Bellew gets a lot of stick because he hasn't got the Adonis type physique but I'd bet he's as fit as they come. If it came down to a war of attrition tomorrow night my money would be on Bellew but Haye will have too much power for him.

Well said

[Cyclops]

Haye looks in great shape.

Bellew looks soft, but then again so does Tyson Fury and we all know what happened to Wlad..

I wouldn't read to much into this.

Why not?

The Fury comparison is pointless. Fury was not coming up a weight class and hadn't started his career in a weight class below that. He was comparatively light for his career, was the bigger and longer man against Wlad with a signicantly longer reach, was still very young and developing his style, could switch hit, and had a clear psychological edge. Fury was also unbeaten.

[Grilling Machine]

there are very few examples of really good fat fighters in history.

Foreman II, the older Holmes, Witherspoon, Bowe, Toney... It depends on your definition of fat.

[Tarkus]

Some here are missing the point. Its not that he is fat but that strip away all the fat and you end up with small cruiser weight. A small cruiser that did not train properly.

[Supremo]

No offence to most of you on here but you don't know what you're talking about- you obviously don't know about training or nutrition or the body.

Yes, you can't judge a fight based on appearance that is usually true. Someone like Derek chisora or Whyte are fat heavy weights. But strip away the fat and they're still heavy weights- they'd just look like Haye. The fat isn't too detrimental- doesn't bring much advantages but doesn't hinder them too much either. They're strong enough to be at heavy weight.

However if you strip away the fat then bellew is a light heavyweight, and possibly even a super middle. He is only strong enough to operate at they weights. He doesn't have the size and strength to be operating at cruiser(he's got away with it so far), let alone heavy.

He has put on fat to make him the same weight as a heavy weight but his body isn't made up the same as a heavy weight. Fat will bring him no advantage. It won't make him hit harder and will slow his mobility as it's excessive in comparison to his body weight. It is as useful as Andre Ward sticking a weighted vest on and then calling himself a heavy weight.

You can be fat and fit- you just eat loads of calories and eat more than you use up- very easy.
But
You CANT be as strong as a strong heavy wegiggt when you don't have the lean body mass of even a cruiser weight.

[BigDoofus]

Calzaghe was as fit as they come and yeah he never looked doughy but he wasn't exactly ripped like Froch, Kessler, Lacy etc.. But he'd have had em all on fitness IMO.

Behave yourself. This is Calzaghe in his last fight:
https://chadsports.files.wordpress.com/ ... lzaghe.jpg

They regularly used to show footage of Calzaghe pushing himself in roadwork. Imagine Price and Bellend trying to keep up? Penfold would have to drive them in a car

[Finn]

No offence to most of you on here but you don't know what you're talking about- you obviously don't know about training or nutrition or the body.

Yes, you can't judge a fight based on appearance that is usually true. Someone like Derek chisora or Whyte are fat heavy weights. But strip away the fat and they're still heavy weights- they'd just look like Haye. The fat isn't too detrimental- doesn't bring much advantages but doesn't hinder them too much either. They're strong enough to be at heavy weight.

However if you strip away the fat then bellew is a light heavyweight, and possibly even a super middle. He is only strong enough to operate at they weights. He doesn't have the size and strength to be operating at cruiser(he's got away with it so far), let alone heavy.

He has put on fat to make him the same weight as a heavy weight but his body isn't made up the same as a heavy weight. Fat will bring him no advantage. It won't make him hit harder and will slow his mobility as it's excessive in comparison to his body weight. It is as useful as Andre Ward sticking a weighted vest on and then calling himself a heavy weight.

You can be fat and fit- you just eat loads of calories and eat more than you use up- very easy.
But
You CANT be as strong as a strong heavy wegiggt when you don't have the lean body mass of even a cruiser weight.

Yep there's a big difference between muscle bulk topped with fat and excess body fat or water weight with no muscle bulk. It's like comparing a darts player like Andy Fordham or whatever his name was to one of he guys off the worlds strongest man competition.

[BigDoofus]

Bellew gets a lot of stick because he hasn't got the Adonis type physique but I'd bet he's as fit as they come.

Price and Bellew carrying that lard is like making a fit guy carry a back-pack.

[Stuarty]

Calzaghe was as fit as they come and yeah he never looked doughy but he wasn't exactly ripped like Froch, Kessler, Lacy etc.. But he'd have had em all on fitness IMO.

Behave yourself. This is Calzaghe in his last fight:
https://chadsports.files.wordpress.com/ ... lzaghe.jpg

They regularly used to show footage of Calzaghe pushing himself in roadwork. Imagine Price and Bellend trying to keep up? Penfold would have to drive them in a car

[BigDoofus]

A retired Calzaghe out of it outside a club, still looking more of an athlete!

[fizzjambo]

Loved Eddies face when Haye got on the scales. It was like "oh f*ck"!

I think Hearn will be delighted! I'm not saying he's throwing Bellew to the wolves, Bellew wants the fight, it'll raise is profile and thus future earning back at Cruiser considerably and he'll get the best pay day of his life. He's no other possible option of headlining a PPV. That said I'm pretty confident that Hearn knows the outcome already.

This is just part of the build for the absolute cash-spunk-frenzy that Joshua v Haye would be. If both can secure spectacular wins next up they are no more than one fight away from what would easily be the most financially attractive fight in European boxing history.

That's the story here really, tonight is just a turn in the road towards it

[Controversial]

I'm sure Bellew is very fit, he just doesn't have the type of body that Haye has. Put them on both on a running machine or circuit training at the same time and there won't be a lot in it. Tyson Fury had a soft physique to and he done pretty well.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Most of the decent soft heavyweights (e.g Chisora and Whyte) have bigger frames than him.....he's looking very skinny fat and out of place at HW to me.

Adamek, another guy to make jump from 175 in recent years, looked much better. I know it's not bodybuilding, but putting on that type of weight in belly fat isnt going to do him any favours IMO.

Anyone who thinks he's in good nick I'd deluded. He's nother only pudgy, there's very little muscle mass. He's in terrible shape for a professional athlete. Bellew is there for a payday. Nothing more.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'm sure Bellew is very fit, he just doesn't have the type of body that Haye has. Put them on both on a running machine or circuit training at the same time and there won't be a lot in it. Tyson Fury had a soft physique to and he done pretty well.

Rubbish. He's out of shape. Haye wasn't born like that, it's hard training. Bellew is going to get ruined.

[brilo33]

bellew always looks podgy , don't me nothing ,remember the last big fat man ,he won the heavyweight title , it is not a mr universe contest,shame it ain't a eat as much as you like contest

[PredatorHayds]

I can see Coldwell blaming the fitness coach again.

[Controversial]

I'm sure Bellew is very fit, he just doesn't have the type of body that Haye has. Put them on both on a running machine or circuit training at the same time and there won't be a lot in it. Tyson Fury had a soft physique to and he done pretty well.

Rubbish. He's out of shape. Haye wasn't born like that, it's hard training. Bellew is going to get ruined.

Yeah I didn't say he would win, Haye within 2 rounds for me. You don't have to look like a bodybuilder to be fit

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'm sure Bellew is very fit, he just doesn't have the type of body that Haye has. Put them on both on a running machine or circuit training at the same time and there won't be a lot in it. Tyson Fury had a soft physique to and he done pretty well.

Rubbish. He's out of shape. Haye wasn't born like that, it's hard training. Bellew is going to get ruined.

Yeah I didn't say he would win, Haye within 2 rounds for me. You don't have to look like a bodybuilder to be fit

No but most professional athletes don't have man books and a muffin top.