Has Your Respect For David Haye...

Has your respect for David Haye...

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Has Your Respect For David Haye...

Post by Benelio »

Some people seeing tonight's fight as another example of Haye 'conning' the fight fans out of money. But I was actually impressed with his heart and grit.
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Post by fanman »

Both fighters were badly hurt and showed heart to continue. Credit to Bellew for the win.
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Post by Tuan_Jim »

The same. He's a brave bloke in the ring but his career choices are incredibly cynical. Bellew was a banana skin.
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Post by Horse »

People on here worship Haye so, of course, they will think that he got the moral victory and his reputation has been enhanced.

Bellew won, but they have more contempt for him than ever.
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Post by HomicideHenry »

As a human being, my respect for him went up. He made no excuses for losing.

As a fight, my respect also went up for him. He took a hell of alot of shots, and refused to quit.

He beat the count in round eleven and would have continued on, except his corner threw in the towel.

So, all in all, my respect has went up for him. But I am glad he finally was humbled by someone.
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Post by Covfefe »

Horse wrote:People on here worship Haye so, of course, they will think that he got the moral victory and his reputation has been enhanced.

Bellew won, but they have more contempt for him than ever.
No horse. I don't give Haye any moral victory at all.

Bellew did win, but seeing him on tv saying he knew Haye couldn't take his power or he was going to drag him deep after that fight was sickening. Haye was walking the fight without doing aything and his ankle gave, Bellew didn't do anything towards that luck that befell him. In fact he was blowing harder than Haye going into round six. He won because Haye's ankle gave completely on him, the man couldn't even stand up. Anyone pretending it was anything other than that, or pretending they picked the fight the correct way are lying to themselves.
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Post by Horse »

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Haye was walking the fight without doing aything and his ankle gave, Bellew didn't do anything towards that luck that befell him.
He signed up for the fight and was still in there to take advantage.

Of course he did his part to earn his luck.
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Anyone pretending it was anything other than that, or pretending they picked the fight the correct way are lying to themselves.
Haye has been injury prone for years.

Haye getting injured in this fight shouldn't be shocking to anyone with a clue.
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Post by Covfefe »

Horse wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Haye was walking the fight without doing aything and his ankle gave, Bellew didn't do anything towards that luck that befell him.
He signed up for the fight and was still in there to take advantage.

Of course he did his part to earn his luck.
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Anyone pretending it was anything other than that, or pretending they picked the fight the correct way are lying to themselves.
Haye has been injury prone for years.

Haye getting injured in this fight shouldn't be shocking to anyone with a clue.
The chance of Haye getting injured were high, its been talked about at length. One person picked that to happen. No one else.
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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:The chance of Haye getting injured were high, its been talked about at length. One person picked that to happen. No one else.
A win's a win.
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Post by lillywhite14 »

Fallen. 100%

Embarrassing night for British boxing all round. Bellew? Imo tonight gives him nothing, Haye conned everyone by suggesting he was even 50% of what he was and that was before the injury. We end up with one of the worst cruiserweght strap holders in recent years banging on about "beating" a 10% David Haye...at heavyweight! :lol: Just imagine what Joshua or Fury would have done to either tonight...murder.

Genuinely poor night for British boxing imo.

Utter bollocks from start to finish. :TU:
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Post by Finn »

Horse wrote:People on here worship Haye so, of course, they will think that he got the moral victory and his reputation has been enhanced.

Bellew won, but they have more contempt for him than ever.
Horse you just talk crap. When has Haye ever been that flat footed from the start of a fight, his Achilles then went completely. It's not Bellew a fault but the victory was handed to him.

My gripe with Haye and his camp would be why if they knew he was carrying the injury didn't he just stand his ground and use the jab rather than try to move around and blow his Achilles completely? Bellew didn't punch him through the ropes his leg buckled when he was trying to duck the punches. Yes that was Bellew who was throwing the punches but he didn't blast him through the ropes.
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Horse wrote:People on here worship Haye so, of course, they will think that he got the moral victory and his reputation has been enhanced.

Bellew won, but they have more contempt for him than ever.
No horse. I don't give Haye any moral victory at all.

Bellew did win, but seeing him on tv saying he knew Haye couldn't take his power or he was going to drag him deep after that fight was sickening. Haye was walking the fight without doing aything and his ankle gave, Bellew didn't do anything towards that luck that befell him. In fact he was blowing harder than Haye going into round six. He won because Haye's ankle gave completely on him, the man couldn't even stand up. Anyone pretending it was anything other than that, or pretending they picked the fight the correct way are lying to themselves.
Who are these people who worship Haye?
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Post by Covfefe »

Horse wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:The chance of Haye getting injured were high, its been talked about at length. One person picked that to happen. No one else.
A win's a win.
I'd be interested to read what you said in your prefight prediction, can you link me to it, I can't find it in your posts.
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Post by Horse »

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Who are these people who worship Haye?
All of the sneering buffoons who said that Haye would destroy Bellew/Fury in 1 or 2 rounds etc.
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Horse wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Who are these people who worship Haye?
All of the sneering buffoons who said that Haye would destroy Bellew/Fury in 1 or 2 rounds etc.
That doesn't mean they adore Haye, it means they thought he'd flatten Bellew. I predicted that myself, I am no fan of Haye's.

However, to try and make out Bellew was the architect of some amazing gameplan is ridiculous. Prior to Haye's ankle going, how many shots had he landed. He planned on Haye gassing, but Haye didn't gas at all.
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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:I'd be interested to read what you said in your prefight prediction, can you link me to it, I can't find it in your posts.
Horse wrote:For a long time I've rated Haye lower than most and Bellew higher than most.

Like I've said recently: "I still think that there is a good chance that Haye is a shadow of his former self. The only world level win that he's had in the last 6.5 years is against Chisora and how highly does anyone on here rate Chisora?".

Bellew is the WBC cruiserweight champion and isn't that much smaller than Haye. Haye was never a phenomenal heavyweight and he's not done anything decent in years.

I don't think that Haye is the monster that most people seem to think he is. Haye's fast and powerful, but there's a good chance that Bellew can stand up to it for longer than people think.

If Bellew can land a few times then old, inactive Haye could be in trouble, especially after the first few rounds.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=206635
Horse wrote:When Bomber sparks Haye clean out, a lot of people are going to be looking mighty silly.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... &p=4506021
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Post by Cholo_cws »

Haye took his licks tonight but I have little respect for him. Felt like the chickens had come home to roost. Looks like if anyone's going to hospital it'll be him. Hope he has a long wait in A & E .
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Post by Covfefe »

Horse wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:I'd be interested to read what you said in your prefight prediction, can you link me to it, I can't find it in your posts.
Horse wrote:For a long time I've rated Haye lower than most and Bellew higher than most.

Like I've said recently: "I still think that there is a good chance that Haye is a shadow of his former self. The only world level win that he's had in the last 6.5 years is against Chisora and how highly does anyone on here rate Chisora?".

Bellew is the WBC cruiserweight champion and isn't that much smaller than Haye. Haye was never a phenomenal heavyweight and he's not done anything decent in years.

I don't think that Haye is the monster that most people seem to think he is. Haye's fast and powerful, but there's a good chance that Bellew can stand up to it for longer than people think.

If Bellew can land a few times then old, inactive Haye could be in trouble, especially after the first few rounds.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=206635
Horse wrote:When Bomber sparks Haye clean out, a lot of people are going to be looking mighty silly.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... &p=4506021
Neither of those things happened.
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Post by davie »

Bit of both to be fair

He under-performed and I now think he is less of a fighter than I did previously.
Old Haye could have stopped Bellew inside of 3 as predicted by most including myself
Equally, he showed great heart and determination to keep going which he deserves credit for

As for Bellew. over all he has gone up in my estimations.
He still couldn't finish an injured man, so I'll stop short of kissing his arse. But he lasted longer than I thought he could and put up a reasonable display and ultimitely won
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Post by Horse »

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Neither of those things happened.
Closer than most.
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Post by Covfefe »

Horse wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Neither of those things happened.
Closer than most.
But wrong nonetheless. Bomber didn't 'land a few' an take Haye deep. He certainly didn't spark him either. Haye suffered an injury and Bomber took the win. You ultimately got Bomber right, but your lack of acknowledgement for the way it really occurred is strange.
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Post by lillywhite14 »

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Horse wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Neither of those things happened.
Closer than most.
But wrong nonetheless. Bomber didn't 'land a few' an take Haye deep. He certainly didn't spark him either. Haye suffered an injury and Bomber took the win. You ultimately got Bomber right, but your lack of acknowledgement for the way it really occurred is strange.
Because he's a strange bloke
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Post by Finn »

I tell you one thing I like Joshua a lot less.
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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:But wrong nonetheless. Bomber didn't 'land a few' an take Haye deep. He certainly didn't spark him either. Haye suffered an injury and Bomber took the win. You ultimately got Bomber right, but your lack of acknowledgement for the way it really occurred is strange.
I picked the right winner.

Did you?
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Post by Crease »

My respect forhim as stayed the same, i always thought that he was a fighter.

But tonight has shown that David Haye doesn't cut the mustard antmore.
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