Why Is Luis Ortiz So Avoided?

[Ilya Muromets]

Ortiz - Miller possible in April...

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/01/lui ... april-may/

[RScarf1]

Ortiz doesn't even have that WBA Intercontinental belt anymore. Pulev has it. I think the top guys will fight him when he is 38 years old which is only a year away.

[Kalan]

The only solution to this is having your guy barn-storm like Tyson did before his shot at Berbick... You fight who will fight you... You fight often... and you stay on the phone lining up one fight after another... D'Amato said he got that from Doc Kearns and the way he managed Dempsey prior to the Willard Fight.

[Ilya Muromets]

Ortiz doesn't even have that WBA Intercontinental belt anymore. Pulev has it. I think the top guys will fight him when he is 38 years old which is only a year away.

If he really does fight Miller (it's not listed on BoxRec) I think that there is a very good chance that Miller will beat him.

[bnovelist]

Wilder is OUTRIGHT ducking using a failed drug test in the past as an excuse to NEVER EVA EVA..EVA EVA fight Luis Ortiz. Ooh Wilder has got some

serious ducking skills!

[Ilya Muromets]

Wilder is OUTRIGHT ducking using a failed drug test in the past as an excuse to NEVER EVA EVA..EVA EVA fight Luis Ortiz. Ooh Wilder has got some

serious ducking skills!

Not the first time Wilder has used that excuse, is it? But when it comes to a fighter he isn't worried about - Stiverne - than it's OK, drug test, no problem.

[bnovelist]

Then he tried to justify and sell us wolf tickets that Washington was a worthy opponent. All I have got to say is Wilder is LUCKY he didn't come

along in the 70s, 80s, 0r 90s these fights would get rid of him like they did Micheal Grant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdGFK_mqZI

[world ranked]

That's about the size of it. And speaking of big dangerous heavyweights, where did big baby miller go?

Eddie Hearn has recently spoke about in the process of making Miller/Ortiz oh the irony of this thread.

Have you heard anything more on that? I think it would be a terrific matchup...assuming the big baby doesn't continue to blimp up.

I haven't

[Mexi-Box]

He's not really avoided. Didn't the Ustinov fight fall through because of Ortiz IIRC? Wilder should fight him, but I think Ortiz loses to a lot of the dudes in the top 5 (minus Wilder). Tyson Fury cruises to a UD against Ortiz.

[Nightmare Roy]

Then he tried to justify and sell us wolf tickets that Washington was a worthy opponent. All I have got to say is Wilder is LUCKY he didn't come

along in the 70s, 80s, 0r 90s these fights would get rid of him like they did Micheal Grant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdGFK_mqZI

I remember a lot of yanks saying he would destroy Lewis.

[Wales]

Luis Ortiz isn't avoided.

No. He really isn't.

We want $1m to fight you
We'll pay you $100,000 to fight us

[skippy]

Ortiz is Hearn's backup plan if AJ goes south. If Vlad beats AJ, then Hearn crosses out AJ's name in all his future bouts and replaces it with Ortiz. If AJ keeps winning Ortiz is just in a holding pattern as you say.

[bigman1968]

Ortiz is Hearn's backup plan if AJ goes south. If Vlad beats AJ, then Hearn crosses out AJ's name in all his future bouts and replaces it with Ortiz. If AJ keeps winning Ortiz is just in a holding pattern as you say.

I doubt it. Ortiz is over the hill for couple of years, at least. He is not a replacement for young, popular and local AJ.

I believe that Hearns, after two last(lame) Ortiz's fights, actually not really thinking about Ortiz in terms of future