P4P top 10 NOW

[Jip]

1. Lomachenko
2. Inoue
3. Crawford
4. Kovalev
5. Jacobs
6. GGG
7. Thurman
8. Spence
9. Canelo
10. Santa Cruz

° rigo out cause of inactivity

° ward retired from boxing to me, not accepting a rematch, also he lost the k fight

* gonzales lost against a nobody, out of the top 10

° jacobs won, infront of GGG

[Ruthless-RKO]

But.. Jacobs lost.. he doesnt enter the top 10 if he lost

[Nightmare Roy]

Don't see how anyone can have a prospect like Spence in a p4p list, not yet anyway.

[Jip]

But.. Jacobs lost.. he doesnt enter the top 10 if he lost

no, he won.. i am a boxing expert, when i say somebody won, than he won, i talk the trues. cant deny that.

[punchoutsb]

But.. Jacobs lost.. he doesnt enter the top 10 if he lost

Jip ranks based on what he thinks rather than official results. He's pretty open about this, I'm surprised you weren't aware.

*Edit: Ah nevermind, he's now made you aware of his prowess and expertise

[Jip]

thansk opunch out for standing behind me.

the thing is this.

when pac got robbed against timmy the first time only fools would have ranked timmy above pac in a p4p sense, when all clear minded people saw pac winning 10 out of 12 rounds.

jacobs won, it was close, but i saw the fight live and direct and jacobs won.

[MachoTime]

° rigo out cause of inactivity

Wow. I thought you lost your mind leaving Rigo out. I can say as a compliment your list is more objective now.

[squiggy]

That's a little quick to call inactivity, in my opinion. He has a title defense less than a year ago. Just a few weeks before Canelo's last fight.

[davie]

But.. Jacobs lost.. he doesnt enter the top 10 if he lost

no, he won.. i am a boxing expert, when i say somebody won, than he won, i talk the trues. cant deny that.

He talks the trues people, the gods honest trues

[Jip]

° rigo out cause of inactivity

Wow. I thought you lost your mind leaving Rigo out. I can say as a compliment your list is more objective now.

thanks macho

[jezzamundo]

But.. Jacobs lost.. he doesnt enter the top 10 if he lost

no, he won.. i am a boxing expert, when i say somebody won, than he won, i talk the trues. cant deny that.

You know Jip , that every time you call yourself a boxing expert, everyone else on the forum (except perhaps bnovelist) has a laugh.

It was a close fight that could have gone either way. CompuBox isn't the be all and end all, but it showed GGG throwing more, landing more and landing at a higher percentage, not to mention that he scored a knockdown and Jacobs was visibly more swollen and marked up (not that the latter should count towards scoring). You have a preference for flashier, more athletic fighters, which meant you scored the close rounds to Jacobs, which could reasonably go to GGG. Yours is but one in a sea of opinions and deserves no more credit than anyone else's.

Super impressed with Jacobs, though - his stock definitely rises after this fight.

[Boxing Prospect]

Gonzalez loses to a former champion....and that's a nobody...oh the idiots who don't know the lower weights...

[MachoTime]

° rigo out cause of inactivity

Wow. I thought you lost your mind leaving Rigo out. I can say as a compliment your list is more objective now.

thanks macho

No problem your alright dude. You You Gooood Postaaa !

[Jip]

But.. Jacobs lost.. he doesnt enter the top 10 if he lost

no, he won.. i am a boxing expert, when i say somebody won, than he won, i talk the trues. cant deny that.

You know Jip , that every time you call yourself a boxing expert, everyone else on the forum (except perhaps bnovelist) has a laugh.

It was a close fight that could have gone either way. CompuBox isn't the be all and end all, but it showed GGG throwing more, landing more and landing at a higher percentage, not to mention that he scored a knockdown and was visibly more swollen and marked up (not that the latter shoyld count towards scoring). You have a preference for flashier, more athletic fighters, which meant you scored the close rounds to Jacobs, which could reasonably go to GGG. Yours is but one in a sea of opinions and deserves no more credit than anyone else's.

Super impressed with Jacobs, though - his stock definitely rises after this fight.

why do you always want to make me sad?

[boxing_rocks]

1. Lomachenko
2. Inoue
3. Crawford
4. Kovalev
5. Jacobs
6. GGG
7. Thurman
8. Spence
9. Canelo
10. Santa Cruz

° rigo out cause of inactivity

° ward retired from boxing to me, not accepting a rematch, also he lost the k fight

* gonzales lost against a nobody, out of the top 10

° jacobs won, infront of GGG

There is some sense in this list except Jacobs, Canelo and Santa Cruz being in it and Kovalev being above Golovkin. I would say

Lomachenko
Golovkin
Crawford
Kovalev
Inoue
...

[squiggy]

Gonzalez loses to a former champion....and that's a nobody...oh the idiots who don't know the lower weights...

Agreed.

[jezzamundo]

no, he won.. i am a boxing expert, when i say somebody won, than he won, i talk the trues. cant deny that.

You know Jip , that every time you call yourself a boxing expert, everyone else on the forum (except perhaps bnovelist) has a laugh.

It was a close fight that could have gone either way. CompuBox isn't the be all and end all, but it showed GGG throwing more, landing more and landing at a higher percentage, not to mention that he scored a knockdown and was visibly more swollen and marked up (not that the latter shoyld count towards scoring). You have a preference for flashier, more athletic fighters, which meant you scored the close rounds to Jacobs, which could reasonably go to GGG. Yours is but one in a sea of opinions and deserves no more credit than anyone else's.

Super impressed with Jacobs, though - his stock definitely rises after this fight.

why do you always want to make me sad?

I don't want to make you sad, just like to call you (and others) up when I think you're out of line. IMO, you calling yourself a boxing expert and saying that Jacobs definitively won the fight is out of line. I've got nothing against anyone who scored it close to Jacobs, but to say he was the clear winner is wrong, IMO.

[Jip]

You know Jip , that every time you call yourself a boxing expert, everyone else on the forum (except perhaps bnovelist) has a laugh.

It was a close fight that could have gone either way. CompuBox isn't the be all and end all, but it showed GGG throwing more, landing more and landing at a higher percentage, not to mention that he scored a knockdown and was visibly more swollen and marked up (not that the latter shoyld count towards scoring). You have a preference for flashier, more athletic fighters, which meant you scored the close rounds to Jacobs, which could reasonably go to GGG. Yours is but one in a sea of opinions and deserves no more credit than anyone else's.

Super impressed with Jacobs, though - his stock definitely rises after this fight.

why do you always want to make me sad?

I don't want to make you sad, just like to call you (and others) up when I think you're out of line. IMO, you calling yourself a boxing expert and saying that Jacobs definitively won the fight is out of line. I've got nothing against anyone who scored it close to Jacobs, but to say he was the clear winner is wrong, IMO.

he wasnt the clear winner. but he did enough for me to say that he won and that i have him 1 spot over ggg on my p4p list.

the knock down wasnt no knock down to me, watch the reply, the legs of ggg and jacobs were paralell and danny couldnt move and fell because of balance, no influence of a punch. it was a close fight, but ggg won. since it was so competetive and close and entertaining it is obvious what is needed, a rematch.

[jezzamundo]

why do you always want to make me sad?

I don't want to make you sad, just like to call you (and others) up when I think you're out of line. IMO, you calling yourself a boxing expert and saying that Jacobs definitively won the fight is out of line. I've got nothing against anyone who scored it close to Jacobs, but to say he was the clear winner is wrong, IMO.

he wasnt the clear winner. but he did enough for me to say that he won and that i have him 1 spot over ggg on my p4p list.

the knock down wasnt no knock down to me, watch the reply, the legs of ggg and jacobs were paralell and danny couldnt move and fell because of balance, no influence of a punch. it was a close fight, but ggg won. since it was so competetive and close and entertaining it is obvious what is needed, a rematch.

I guess it's a wording thing, if you say you scored it for Jacobs, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you say you thought Jacobs deserved the decision, that's fine too. If you say Jacobs won, you are factually incorrect.

While I agree it was a balance thing more than anything else, the knockdown was a legitimate knockdown and must be counted on any respectable scorecard. I agree a rematch would be good, but I want to see GGG-Canelo first. I agree both GGG and Jacobs beat Canelo.

[Jip]

I don't want to make you sad, just like to call you (and others) up when I think you're out of line. IMO, you calling yourself a boxing expert and saying that Jacobs definitively won the fight is out of line. I've got nothing against anyone who scored it close to Jacobs, but to say he was the clear winner is wrong, IMO.

he wasnt the clear winner. but he did enough for me to say that he won and that i have him 1 spot over ggg on my p4p list.

the knock down wasnt no knock down to me, watch the reply, the legs of ggg and jacobs were paralell and danny couldnt move and fell because of balance, no influence of a punch. it was a close fight, but ggg won. since it was so competetive and close and entertaining it is obvious what is needed, a rematch.

I guess it's a wording thing, if you say you scored it for Jacobs, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you say you thought Jacobs deserved the decision, that's fine too. If you say Jacobs won, you are factually incorrect.

While I agree it was a balance thing more than anything else, the knockdown was a legitimate knockdown and must be counted on any respectable scorecard. I agree a rematch would be good, but I want to see GGG-Canelo first. I agree both GGG and Jacobs beat Canelo.

i want GGG vs Canelo too, because of the buzzz and everything around it, but in terms of quality GGG vs Jacobs 2 is the fight to make. those are by far the 2 best middleweight in the world and no charlo and no canelo wont change anything about it. jacobs looked a super middleweight, those 154 dont know what they will deal with when they meet the top 2 midds.

but i aggree canelo and ggg will make so much hype, it will be great entertainmant. but you know what, i predict that the bigger, stronger chavez jr will upset canelo, wounder what than happens GGG-Chavez Jr

[jezzamundo]

he wasnt the clear winner. but he did enough for me to say that he won and that i have him 1 spot over ggg on my p4p list.

the knock down wasnt no knock down to me, watch the reply, the legs of ggg and jacobs were paralell and danny couldnt move and fell because of balance, no influence of a punch. it was a close fight, but ggg won. since it was so competetive and close and entertaining it is obvious what is needed, a rematch.

I guess it's a wording thing, if you say you scored it for Jacobs, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you say you thought Jacobs deserved the decision, that's fine too. If you say Jacobs won, you are factually incorrect.

While I agree it was a balance thing more than anything else, the knockdown was a legitimate knockdown and must be counted on any respectable scorecard. I agree a rematch would be good, but I want to see GGG-Canelo first. I agree both GGG and Jacobs beat Canelo.

i want GGG vs Canelo too, because of the buzzz and everything around it, but in terms of quality GGG vs Jacobs 2 is the fight to make. those are by far the 2 best middleweight in the world and no charlo and no canelo wont change anything about it. jacobs looked a super middleweight, those 154 dont know what they will deal with when they meet the top 2 midds.

but i aggree canelo and ggg will make so much hype, it will be great entertainmant. but you know what, i predict that the bigger, stronger chavez jr will upset canelo, wounder what than happens GGG-Chavez Jr

I agree with everything you've said there, except I've got Canelo stopping, or at least widely decisioning Chavez Jr who I expect to be weight drained. Only way GGG could lose to Chavez Jr would be if he made it a 'crazy street fight' - he should be able to outbox him very clearly.

[Jip]

I guess it's a wording thing, if you say you scored it for Jacobs, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you say you thought Jacobs deserved the decision, that's fine too. If you say Jacobs won, you are factually incorrect.

While I agree it was a balance thing more than anything else, the knockdown was a legitimate knockdown and must be counted on any respectable scorecard. I agree a rematch would be good, but I want to see GGG-Canelo first. I agree both GGG and Jacobs beat Canelo.

i want GGG vs Canelo too, because of the buzzz and everything around it, but in terms of quality GGG vs Jacobs 2 is the fight to make. those are by far the 2 best middleweight in the world and no charlo and no canelo wont change anything about it. jacobs looked a super middleweight, those 154 dont know what they will deal with when they meet the top 2 midds.

but i aggree canelo and ggg will make so much hype, it will be great entertainmant. but you know what, i predict that the bigger, stronger chavez jr will upset canelo, wounder what than happens GGG-Chavez Jr

I agree with everything you've said there, except I've got Canelo stopping, or at least widely decisioning Chavez Jr who I expect to be weight drained. Only way GGG could lose to Chavez Jr would be if he made it a 'crazy street fight' - he should be able to outbox him very clearly.

yea, but funny thing is with everybody focused on ggg canelo, that actualy ggg chavez might be a more entertaining fight, since chavez is known for his chin and how well he takes a beating and that fight would last long and it would be brutal, where ggg against canelo could end fast of canelo cant handle a natural middleweight with all time great power. bottum line no matter if rematch with jacobs or ggg vs chavez or canelo, one thing is for sure 2017 is a damn phenomenal boxing year and it keeps getting better

[diddy]

Please get these little midgets out of the rankings. Inoue, Roman Gonzalez. People try to outsmart themselves putting these dudes on the lists. Let's keep it to dudes who are adult sized.

Lomo, Ward, Kovalev are a pretty clear 1-2-3 for me right now. Crawford and GGG at 4-5.

[ValMar]

Without Usyk ? Without any HW ?

[BitPlayer]

I'm not sure if any of the current crop are truely P4P worthy. Ward is great but too inactive, and with his win over Kovalev being so questioned he needs to do a lot more. GGG hasn't fought nearly strong enough opponents. Canelo ducked GGG. Pacquiao is past it. Crawford, Usyk and Loma may be but they haven't done enough yet IMo. Roman Gonzalez deserves credits for going up the weights, trouble is the talent pool at such low weights isn't the best so it's hard for him ever to really prove himself, probably the most P4P worthy still.