Most overrated and underrated HW Fighters

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I think the most overrated are Kubrat Pulev and Alexander Povetkin.


Pulev was wrecked by Wladimir Klitschko and only fights absolute Chumps , he is clumsy and has not a great Punch , he has a Knockout rate of only 52 % against D-Level Opposition and will fight next against Kevin Johnson , which is ridiculous.


Povetkin nearly lost against Marco Huck , he also was absolutely dominated by Wladimir Klitschko , he fights only Bums and Cab Drivers , he fought against Manuel Charr , who is a Disgrace to the Sport of Boxing , absolutely terrible .
Despite being a small Heavyweight , he is not really fast , has no Stamina and is lumbering and not really enjoyable to watch , also that guy has absolutely zero Charisma

I think both of them would lose against Klitschko,Joshua,Ortiz,Wilder,Fury and even Haye , i think Chisora and Whyte also has a good Chance to beat them

Underrated in my opinion are :

Deontay Wilder , because he is called overrated so many times , that People tend to underrate him , he fought only Bums like Pulev and Povetkin but dominated and won his Fights convincingly , he has unbelievable Power in his right Hand and could serve Problems to any Heavyweight Fighter on the Planet.

Tyson Fury , he is a very good Fighter with excellent Movement for his Height, he has a decent Punch and his technical Ability is underrated .
People tend to underrate him because he is not really enjoyable to watch and doesnt really look like a top Athlete.

David Haye , is criminally underrated in my Opinion , at Cruiserweight ,he was by far the best Fighter of his era and unified the Division.
At the Heavyweight Division , he has a decent win against Valuev, who was 100 Pounds heavier and a lot taller than him , he knocked Chisora out, who has one of the best Chins in the Heavyweight Division ,also he has tremendous Hand Speed, Movement and Power and is a great Athlete , People tend to underrate him because he fought a lot of Bums in his Career and lost against Klitschko in 2011, who was in his Prime and nearly unbeatable .
Despite what a lot of People think , he did not that bad against Klitschko
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I agree with your choices with the exception of fury. He's much more overrated for beating the historically overrated wlad in one of the worst displays of 'skill' in title fight history.
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Overrated: Big Baby Miller, Wilder, Hughie Fury
Underrated: Pulev
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[quote="SaadOffTheDeck"]I agree with your choices with the exception of fury. He's much more overrated for beating the historically overrated wlad in one of the worst displays of 'skill' in title fight history.[/quo

Thats right , a lot of People tend to overrate him for that win , but he also gets criminally underrated at times
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world ranked wrote:Overrated: Big Baby Miller, Wilder, Hughie Fury
Underrated: Pulev
Agree with Hughie Fury , he is average , but why is Pulev underrated ?
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Overated- in the sense they should be no where near the top 15 and title shots etc. Molina, Browne ( I could see him getting really badly hurt against somone like Joshua, I mean claret everywhere and brutal ko.) stiverne, oquendo, Briggs.

Underrated- whyte, Ruiz jr, fury both.
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LasPalmas wrote:Overated- in the sense they should be no where near the top 15 and title shots etc. Molina, Browne ( I could see him getting really badly hurt against somone like Joshua, I mean claret everywhere and brutal ko.) stiverne, oquendo, Briggs.

Underrated- whyte, Ruiz jr, fury both.
I agree , think that Whyte and Chisora are clearly better than Stiverne,Oquendo and Briggs , both have to be in the Top 15
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Niko1209 wrote:
world ranked wrote:Overrated: Big Baby Miller, Wilder, Hughie Fury
Underrated: Pulev
Agree with Hughie Fury , he is average , but why is Pulev underrated ?
Because people only remember him for the Klitschko loss and was considered a top 3 heavyweight up until Fury beat Klitschko now he's not even mentioned in any heavyweight debate.
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Overrated: Ruiz Jr., Whyte, Breazeale, Chisora, Ortiz

Underrated: Wach, Pulev, Jennings, Hammer
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world ranked wrote:
Niko1209 wrote:
world ranked wrote:Overrated: Big Baby Miller, Wilder, Hughie Fury
Underrated: Pulev
Agree with Hughie Fury , he is average , but why is Pulev underrated ?
Because people only remember him for the Klitschko loss and was considered a top 3 heavyweight up until Fury beat Klitschko now he's not even mentioned in any heavyweight debate.
Because he nearly lost to Chisora and only fight bums.
He is not even worth mentioning because he will lose to Klitschko,Joshua,Wilder,Ortiz,Parker,Ruiz jr,Whyte maybe and even Chisora in a Rematch would beat him.
He is overrated and not underrated.
He was overrated when he fought Klitschko.
Everybody thought he had a Chance , but he was wrecked , it was a big mismatch.
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Niko1209 wrote:I think the most overrated are Kubrat Pulev and Alexander Povetkin.

Pulev was wrecked by Wladimir Klitschko and only fights absolute Chumps , he struggled against Chisora and nearly lost the Fight , he is clumsy and has not a great Punch , he as a Knockout rate of only 52 % against D-Level Opposition and will fight next against Kevin Johnson , which is ridiculous,
he is not a top 10 Fighter in my opinion.

Povetkin nearly lost against Marco Huck , he also was absolutely dominated by Wladimir Klitschko , he fights only Bums and Cab Drivers , he fought against Manuel Charr , who is a Disgrace to the Sport of Boxing , absolutely terrible .
Despite being a small Heavyweight , he is not really fast , has no Stamina and is lumbering and not really enjoyable to watch , also that guy has absolutely zero Charisma

I think both of them would lose against Klitschko,Joshua,Ortiz,Wilder,Fury and even Haye , i think Chisora and Whyte also has a good Chance to beat them

Underrated in my opinion are :

Wilder , because he is called overrated so many times , that People tend to underrate him , he fought only Bums like Pulev and Povetkin but dominated and won his Fights convincingly , he has unbelievable Power in his right Hand and could serve Problems to any Heavyweight Fighter on the Planet.

Fury , he is a very good Fighter with excellent Movement for his Height, he has a decent Punch and his technical Ability is underrated .
People tend to underrate him because he is not really enjoyable to watch and doesnt really look like a top Athlete.

David Haye , is criminally underrated in my Opinion , at Cruiserweight ,he was by far the best Fighter of his era and unified the Division.
At the Heavyweight Division , he has a decent win against Valuev, who was 100 Pounds heavier and a lot taller than him , he knocked Chisora out, who has one of the best Chins in the Heavyweight Division ,also he has tremendous Hand Speed, Movement and Power and is a great Athlete , People tend to underrate him because he fought a lot of Bums in his Career and lost against Klitschko in 2011, who was in his Prime and nearly unbeatable .
Despite what a lot of People think , he did not that bad against Klitschko


If you watched the Pulev-Chisora fight then you'd know Pulev dominated. Not sure what the judges were watching but i aswell as majority of people struggled to give Chisora a round. I think Pulev is underrated.
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punchoutsb wrote:Overrated: Ruiz Jr., Whyte, Breazeale, Chisora, Ortiz

Underrated: Wach, Pulev, Jennings, Hammer
If you think Ruiz is overrated why don't you think Parker is overrated just curious?
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RAB2204 wrote:
Niko1209 wrote:I think the most overrated are Kubrat Pulev and Alexander Povetkin.

Pulev was wrecked by Wladimir Klitschko and only fights absolute Chumps , he struggled against Chisora and nearly lost the Fight , he is clumsy and has not a great Punch , he as a Knockout rate of only 52 % against D-Level Opposition and will fight next against Kevin Johnson , which is ridiculous,
he is not a top 10 Fighter in my opinion.

Povetkin nearly lost against Marco Huck , he also was absolutely dominated by Wladimir Klitschko , he fights only Bums and Cab Drivers , he fought against Manuel Charr , who is a Disgrace to the Sport of Boxing , absolutely terrible .
Despite being a small Heavyweight , he is not really fast , has no Stamina and is lumbering and not really enjoyable to watch , also that guy has absolutely zero Charisma

I think both of them would lose against Klitschko,Joshua,Ortiz,Wilder,Fury and even Haye , i think Chisora and Whyte also has a good Chance to beat them

Underrated in my opinion are :

Wilder , because he is called overrated so many times , that People tend to underrate him , he fought only Bums like Pulev and Povetkin but dominated and won his Fights convincingly , he has unbelievable Power in his right Hand and could serve Problems to any Heavyweight Fighter on the Planet.

Fury , he is a very good Fighter with excellent Movement for his Height, he has a decent Punch and his technical Ability is underrated .
People tend to underrate him because he is not really enjoyable to watch and doesnt really look like a top Athlete.

David Haye , is criminally underrated in my Opinion , at Cruiserweight ,he was by far the best Fighter of his era and unified the Division.
At the Heavyweight Division , he has a decent win against Valuev, who was 100 Pounds heavier and a lot taller than him , he knocked Chisora out, who has one of the best Chins in the Heavyweight Division ,also he has tremendous Hand Speed, Movement and Power and is a great Athlete , People tend to underrate him because he fought a lot of Bums in his Career and lost against Klitschko in 2011, who was in his Prime and nearly unbeatable .
Despite what a lot of People think , he did not that bad against Klitschko


If you watched the Pulev-Chisora fight then you'd know Pulev dominated. Not sure what the judges were watching but i aswell as majority of people struggled to give Chisora a round. I think Pulev is underrated.
I admit that i didnt watched the Fight , because both are not very enjoyable to look at, i will never watch a Pulev Fight , only when he fights against Top 10 Competition , what never will be , because he only fights Cab Drivers and Plumbers .
Even when he dominated against Chisora , it changes nothing for me i still think he is overrated , only to a lower degree now
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world ranked wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Overrated: Ruiz Jr., Whyte, Breazeale, Chisora, Ortiz

Underrated: Wach, Pulev, Jennings, Hammer
If you think Ruiz is overrated why don't you think Parker is overrated just curious?
I didn't list any current title holders as holding a belt means the world to some fans and generates instant heat from others. It muddies the waters so to speak.
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I agree other than Haye atleast if you mean currently, he's finished, and Pulev is a top fighter but more by the weakness of the division, how many heavyweights even have a better win than Chisora?
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As suggested, Pulev didn't struggle with Chisora at all, and he certainly did a much better job on him than Whyte managed.

It should've been at worst an 8-4 win, and the 10-2 card was justifiable (same score I had). He's not generally considered among top few HWs despite having wins comparable to those which guys like AJ, Wilder, and Parker have.
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I am not a Pulev fan by any means however he went after Klitscho like really no one has. Landed a few shots. He was clearly trying to win unlike so many.

Overrated by many Wilder. It is hard to believe he has had that many fights and has never fought a true contender.
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BitPlayer wrote:I agree other than Haye atleast if you mean currently, he's finished, and Pulev is a top fighter but more by the weakness of the division, how many heavyweights even have a better win than Chisora?

I meant a prime David Haye before he had all his Injuries and i have to correct it , i thought Pulev struggled against Chisora but he didnt , he dominated the Fight with his Jab, i have seen it now.
I still dont like him as a Fighter and find him slightly overrated though
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Niko1209 wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Niko1209 wrote:
Agree with Hughie Fury , he is average , but why is Pulev underrated ?
Because people only remember him for the Klitschko loss and was considered a top 3 heavyweight up until Fury beat Klitschko now he's not even mentioned in any heavyweight debate.
Because he nearly lost to Chisora and only fight bums.
He is not even worth mentioning because he will lose to Klitschko,Joshua,Wilder,Ortiz,Parker,Ruiz jr,Whyte maybe and even Chisora in a Rematch would beat him.
He is overrated and not underrated.
He was overrated when he fought Klitschko.
Everybody thought he had a Chance , but he was wrecked , it was a big mismatch.
Have you sh1t in your eyes? Pulev clearly beat Chisora. The judge that gave it to Del Boy must have been drunk.
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Loki wrote:
Niko1209 wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Because people only remember him for the Klitschko loss and was considered a top 3 heavyweight up until Fury beat Klitschko now he's not even mentioned in any heavyweight debate.
Because he nearly lost to Chisora and only fight bums.
He is not even worth mentioning because he will lose to Klitschko,Joshua,Wilder,Ortiz,Parker,Ruiz jr,Whyte maybe and even Chisora in a Rematch would beat him.
He is overrated and not underrated.
He was overrated when he fought Klitschko.
Everybody thought he had a Chance , but he was wrecked , it was a big mismatch.
Have you sh1t in your eyes? Pulev clearly beat Chisora. The judge that gave it to Del Boy must have been drunk.
I know, i corrected it :TU:
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Underated: Klitschko (as an ATG), Pulev, Parker

Overated: Wilder, Hughie Fury, Ortiz (I rate him but he's too old now and people do think he's better than he is).

I hope AJ doesn't fall into the overated category. It's hard to gage Fury, as Klitschko did throw a punch until the 12th round.
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Loki wrote:Underated: Klitschko (as an ATG), Pulev, Parker

Overated: Wilder, Hughie Fury, Ortiz (I rate him but he's too old now and people do think he's better than he is).

I hope AJ doesn't fall into the overated category. It's hard to gage Fury, as Klitschko did throw a punch until the 12th round.
Klitschko is definitely underrated as an ATG though i dont like him as a Fighter , Ortiz is overrated because a lot of deluded People think he could beat anyone and is the best HW Fighter in the World ,which is ridiculous , he is simply too old and i dont see him beating Joshua.

But i dont think that Wilder is overrated because 95 % of People say that he is overrated , so he is not accepted by most as a good Fighter , therefore i think he is underrated , very underrated most Times.
Deontay Wilder is an extremely dangerous Fighter in my opinion and many People are scared of him.
It is not only his fault that he dont fight good Opposition , most Fighters dont want to fight him
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the idea of face in the air, no head movement, clumsy Pulev being underated is ridiculous.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:the idea of face in the air, no head movement, clumsy Pulev being underated is ridiculous.
To some on here fury is Pernell Whitaker, so nothing surprises me.pulev is just another guy who managed not to lose until he contributed to the fraudulent dominance of wlad the huggybear. Pulev is a notch above a club fighter from as recent as the early 90's.
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I'd add Whyte to the overrated group, or at least I would've until recently. Prior Chisora he'd only beaten scrubs and was lackluster in his bouts with Allen and Lewison, yet he was getting a fair bit of hype as a serious HW contender. A lot of people expected him to walk through Del Boy, someone Pulev outclassed shortly before, yet he ended up just scraping by in a torrid affair that many had him losing. He was also hurt several times, and Chisora looked the puncher of the two even though Whyte's power had been rated fairly highly.

I think some people exaggerated his abilities to make AJ appear better.
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