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to be totaly frankly, the spot as p4p King should be vacant right now.

ward is a disgrace to boxing, not only is he oneof the most boring a class boxer ever, but he is arrogant, doesnt respect a rematch clause and simply lost his last fight.

loma is the best in terms of physical attributes, technique, skills, but fighting martinez and walthers isnt a very impressiv record.

like loma rigondeaux is a top boxer, but nobody wants to face him and his record is also far from impressiv.

well kovalev won, but in the ward fight you could see his limits. in terms of technique, speed and stamina he is far from great, he is a good boxer, but not a phenomenal one and never wont, you are born or you aint born with that gift your parents gave you, what is called superior dna, super athletiscm!

roman, some say won, some say lost, at the end wasnt impressiv and an opponent who also has not much to do with being a elite world class boxer.

there is no clear p4p King right now and the best thing would be 1 Boss or organizes all the top fights, so the big names get quality opponents and not like rigondeaux who cant get an good opponent, cause the good opponents know they cant hang with him on a techniqule and athletic side!

but i am happy for this year, like i predicted 2017 would be one of the best boxing years in a long time and it is!!
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maybe i should become the big boss of boxing. i would make all the big fights and people respect my knowledge and like me.
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I've often thought it would be great if some billionaire would buy all the major sanctioning bodied and unify then into one belt - no super, regular or interim champions, either you're the champion of the world, or you're not. Consolidating some of the weight divisions would be good too.
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If he gets past Wladimir Klitschko on the 29th April at Wembley Stadium you will have to put Anthony Joshua's name into the debate.
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jezzamundo wrote:I've often thought it would be great if some billionaire would buy all the major sanctioning bodied and unify then into one belt - no super, regular or interim champions, either you're the champion of the world, or you're not. Consolidating some of the weight divisions would be good too.
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we have literally a really big Boss if Anthony Joshua wins convincingly against Klitschko and unifies the Belts , dont ignore the Heavyweights , my Friends :TU:
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Awesome post Jip! That's right gotdammit we sure do need one big boss! Big bosses like

Joe Louis
Ray Robinson
Ali
Tyson
RJJ
Mayweather
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The UFC is not the only MMA promotion. There is Bellator and a few other prominent ones. The UFC can't buy them all. Even if they were willing to spend billions of dollars to buy them all, new companies would be created. If someone were to buy all the major sanctioning bodies in boxing, other ones would be created and minor sanctioning bodies would still exist. The best thing that can realistically happen is unification in title bouts which is happening this year.
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RScarf1 wrote:The UFC is not the only MMA promotion. There is Bellator and a few other prominent ones. The UFC can't buy them all. Even if they were willing to spend billions of dollars to buy them all, new companies would be created. If someone were to buy all the major sanctioning bodies in boxing, other ones would be created and minor sanctioning bodies would still exist. The best thing that can realistically happen is unification in title bouts which is happening this year.
For better or for worse the UFC is still the king though. No different than WWE for pro wrestling; there are other promotions but it's pretty clear who is number one. Some mega company buying all the sanctioning bodies absolutely would help boxing....but as you say it's not very realistic.
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punchoutsb wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:The UFC is not the only MMA promotion. There is Bellator and a few other prominent ones. The UFC can't buy them all. Even if they were willing to spend billions of dollars to buy them all, new companies would be created. If someone were to buy all the major sanctioning bodies in boxing, other ones would be created and minor sanctioning bodies would still exist. The best thing that can realistically happen is unification in title bouts which is happening this year.
For better or for worse the UFC is still the king though. No different than WWE for pro wrestling; there are other promotions but it's pretty clear who is number one. Some mega company buying all the sanctioning bodies absolutely would help boxing....but as you say it's not very realistic.
I know that the UFC has the best and top talent right now, but I think that is going to change in the next few years. MMA is becoming more of a global sport like boxing. Boxing is already a global sport which is why it is difficult for one entity to have total control over it. There is not one major sanctioning body in boxing that dominates over the others in men's boxing, although the WBC has by far the most talent in women's boxing. Back in ancient times, boxing was all over the world. Boxing began in Ethiopia 8,000 years before Christ and is shown on Egyptian hieroglyphics 5,000 years before Christ. Boxing was one of the sports at the first Olympic Games in Ancient Greece. During the Middle Ages, there were plagues and wars. Boxing faded into obscurity during this time. It was replaced by athletic activities such as jousting and archery. Boxing finally reappeared in the United Kingdom and became popular during the 1700s. In 1867, the Marquess of Queensberry rules were created and changed bare-knuckle boxing into boxing as we know it today. Boxing eventually became popular in the United States. Before modern boxing spread to the rest of the world, the United Kingdom and the United States had most of the talent. The evolution of MMA will be like boxing in that it will spread throughout the world and talent will be developed in other countries. As these other MMA promotional companies grow and increase their fans in other countries where they are based, talent will be there and they will be ranked within the top 15 of that weight class. I am referring to the MMA ratings of the world and not just the UFC ratings. When the talent from other promotional companies is prevalent in the top 15 and the UFC no longer dominates the world ratings, the UFC will be just another company. The Bellator champions and ONE champions and World Series of Fighting champions and other companies' fighters as well will be rated higher in the future. MMA fans will want the champions of different promotional companies to fight each other, much like boxing fans want unification of the belts.
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Wlad is 41 this weekend, hasnt fought in a year and a half, and unanimously lost his last fight. Hard for me to see AJ being a serious contender for the top spot already, even if he annihaltes the old guy.
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If Ward is a disgrace what is Adonis Stevenson?
And what are 90% of boxers who handpick opponents and never challenge themselves? Ward is the guy you choose to single out?

That makes zero sense. He fought all the top guys at 168. And the best guy at 175.

Channel your anger in the proper direction.
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jezzamundo wrote:I've often thought it would be great if some billionaire would buy all the major sanctioning bodied and unify then into one belt - no super, regular or interim champions, either you're the champion of the world, or you're not. Consolidating some of the weight divisions would be good too.

thats exactly what i mean. 1 billionere who makes the rules, but obviously in a positive way with the focus of having 1 champion of the world like you said and only the best fight the best.
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bnovelist wrote:Awesome post Jip! That's right gotdammit we sure do need one big boss! Big bosses like

Joe Louis
Ray Robinson
Ali
Tyson
RJJ
Mayweather

all except floyd hahaha....tyson foguht everybody, same did sugar and ali. but chickenweather ducking pac for 7 years, that has nothing to do with being a boss who makes good descisions....its more like the boss of the new york knicks, he is the boss, but he makes one stupid descision after the other that all laugh at him.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:If he gets past Wladimir Klitschko on the 29th April at Wembley Stadium you will have to put Anthony Joshua's name into the debate.
if he knocks him out in three he is
the man everybody will be talking
about. joshua is potentially a figure
that could transcend the sport in his
own way.

of course that is premature talk, but
the potential is there IMO.
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Jip wrote:all except floyd hahaha....tyson foguht everybody, same did sugar and ali. but chickenweather ducking pac for 7 years ...
i cannot recall any ATG who so
blatantly avoided the man next
in line for so long.
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man wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:If he gets past Wladimir Klitschko on the 29th April at Wembley Stadium you will have to put Anthony Joshua's name into the debate.
if he knocks him out in three he is
the man everybody will be talking
about. joshua is potentially a figure
that could transcend the sport in his
own way.

of course that is premature talk, but
the potential is there IMO.

the potential is there. he got the size for a heavyweight, the power, the kos, he could be the king of boxing in a not p4p sense.
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Jip wrote:to be totaly frankly, the spot as p4p King should be vacant right now.

ward is a disgrace to boxing, not only is he oneof the most boring a class boxer ever, but he is arrogant, doesnt respect a rematch clause and simply lost his last fight.

loma is the best in terms of physical attributes, technique, skills, but fighting martinez and walthers isnt a very impressiv record.

like loma rigondeaux is a top boxer, but nobody wants to face him and his record is also far from impressiv.

well kovalev won, but in the ward fight you could see his limits. in terms of technique, speed and stamina he is far from great, he is a good boxer, but not a phenomenal one and never wont, you are born or you aint born with that gift your parents gave you, what is called superior dna, super athletiscm!

roman, some say won, some say lost, at the end wasnt impressiv and an opponent who also has not much to do with being a elite world class boxer.

there is no clear p4p King right now and the best thing would be 1 Boss or organizes all the top fights, so the big names get quality opponents and not like rigondeaux who cant get an good opponent, cause the good opponents know they cant hang with him on a techniqule and athletic side!

but i am happy for this year, like i predicted 2017 would be one of the best boxing years in a long time and it is!!
GGG is the top boxer in the world. #1P4P fighter No doubt.
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RScarf1 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:The UFC is not the only MMA promotion. There is Bellator and a few other prominent ones. The UFC can't buy them all. Even if they were willing to spend billions of dollars to buy them all, new companies would be created. If someone were to buy all the major sanctioning bodies in boxing, other ones would be created and minor sanctioning bodies would still exist. The best thing that can realistically happen is unification in title bouts which is happening this year.
For better or for worse the UFC is still the king though. No different than WWE for pro wrestling; there are other promotions but it's pretty clear who is number one. Some mega company buying all the sanctioning bodies absolutely would help boxing....but as you say it's not very realistic.
I know that the UFC has the best and top talent right now, but I think that is going to change in the next few years. MMA is becoming more of a global sport like boxing. Boxing is already a global sport which is why it is difficult for one entity to have total control over it. There is not one major sanctioning body in boxing that dominates over the others in men's boxing, although the WBC has by far the most talent in women's boxing. Back in ancient times, boxing was all over the world. Boxing began in Ethiopia 8,000 years before Christ and is shown on Egyptian hieroglyphics 5,000 years before Christ. Boxing was one of the sports at the first Olympic Games in Ancient Greece. During the Middle Ages, there were plagues and wars. Boxing faded into obscurity during this time. It was replaced by athletic activities such as jousting and archery. Boxing finally reappeared in the United Kingdom and became popular during the 1700s. In 1867, the Marquess of Queensberry rules were created and changed bare-knuckle boxing into boxing as we know it today. Boxing eventually became popular in the United States. Before modern boxing spread to the rest of the world, the United Kingdom and the United States had most of the talent. The evolution of MMA will be like boxing in that it will spread throughout the world and talent will be developed in other countries. As these other MMA promotional companies grow and increase their fans in other countries where they are based, talent will be there and they will be ranked within the top 15 of that weight class. I am referring to the MMA ratings of the world and not just the UFC ratings. When the talent from other promotional companies is prevalent in the top 15 and the UFC no longer dominates the world ratings, the UFC will be just another company. The Bellator champions and ONE champions and World Series of Fighting champions and other companies' fighters as well will be rated higher in the future. MMA fans will want the champions of different promotional companies to fight each other, much like boxing fans want unification of the belts.
MMA has always been a global sport. It was huge in Brazil and Japan before they ever cracked the doors on the Octagon. The UFC created a worldwide brand and has the financial backing to be number one. Of course other brands will pop up and have good fighters, but the UFC is much more comparable to the WWE than it is to an alphabet title org.
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Jip wrote:the potential is there. he got the size for a heavyweight, the power, the kos, he could be the king of boxing in a not p4p sense.
but in all fairness the heavies are
always at disadvantage when it
comes to p4p. if you take size and
to an extent absolute power out of
the equation you end up with most
heavies simply being non competitive
with the smaller guys.
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