Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Ossyrules wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Brook is not a spoiler. He's an attacking fighter

Spence is not a great fighter. He's an unproven prospect
Brook is a spoiler. Spence is the goods.
There has been significant buzz behind him from boxing insiders.
Similar to how people feared Crawford before he was proven.

But they are fighting, so all opinions will be tested.

I might be in for another Dirrell/Degale siutation,
but I think Spence is closer to his prime than Dirrell was.
Brook isn't a spoiler he's and attacking fighter. I'll assume you're an American whose only seen the porter fight? Where brook landed the quality shots but tied porter up when he had too?

Spence may be the goods, or he may not. He's unproven. It fair to say the Americans have created a "significant buzz" about a lot of fighters over the years. Some go on, some don't
Have you seen Spence?

This is my favourite fight about right now, Spence looks the business but I have to agree with you, Brook certainly isn't a spoiler and Spence hasn't been anywhere near anyone like Brook. I'm edging to Spence though, hopefully the weight won't be a problem for Brook and if it's not it's a real fifty fifty fight IMO. Brook is much better than a lot of people give him credit for, he's just spent a lot of time treading water in his career for me.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Only Americans do that? Ftr, I agree that brook is far from a negative fighter. No need to get silly over it. All fans hype up fighters they like. I thought Frankie Gavin was going to be world class. I think Spence is going to be a p4p staple. We'll see soon enough, but it has nothing to do with him being American. We're really not like that as a whole.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Americans do that? Ftr, I agree that brook is far from a negative fighter. No need to get silly over it. All fans hype up fighters they like. I thought Frankie Gavin was going to be world class. I think Spence is going to be a p4p staple. We'll see soon enough, but it has nothing to do with him being American. We're really not like that as a whole.
If this board has taught me anything it's that there are some proper whoppers from everywhere.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Americans do that? Ftr, I agree that brook is far from a negative fighter. No need to get silly over it. All fans hype up fighters they like. I thought Frankie Gavin was going to be world class. I think Spence is going to be a p4p staple. We'll see soon enough, but it has nothing to do with him being American. We're really not like that as a whole.
If this board has taught me anything it's that there are some proper whoppers from everywhere.
The worst part about this board is the best part of the site. The data base. No posters are more annoying than the ones who look up records and comment on fights and fighters they've never even read about.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Badhusker wrote:The reason I like Spence, and think he will stop Brook, is his great balance, great body work, great athletic ability, great combinations, and great power in both hands. Above all, the kid is confident yet still humble and is very hungry. Maybe I shouldn't say great yet, but when you have a lot of top trainers and promoters raving about him, they must see something most casual fans do not.
He does have a lot to learn still, but Jermell Charlo says no one works harder than Errol Spence, and he has sparred with him several times. DeLahoya says he is better than Floyd, and will destroy Brook. Roach said he is an incredible talent. Porter said he made Broner cry in sparring.

Doesn't have a great resume yet, but has a common opponent with Thurman, Khan, and Pacquiao. He outperformed all three. Time will tell, but he seems like he has the goods to match his hype.
The only endorsement I take any credit from their is Freddie Roach.

I've heard tons of fighters being described as the hardest workers going.
If I had a pound and a biscuit every time oscar cane out with some bull shit I'd be a rich man, and fat!
Porters quote is hiliraious really. Hopefully brook brings some tissues on the night just in case he sheds a tear or two?

Agreed he's done a real job on algieri. You'd like to think so after he's the last one on a run of defeats though wouldn't you?

Spence might be good don't get me wrong but the word great gets banded around him more than Tony the Frosties tiger.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Americans do that? Ftr, I agree that brook is far from a negative fighter. No need to get silly over it. All fans hype up fighters they like. I thought Frankie Gavin was going to be world class. I think Spence is going to be a p4p staple. We'll see soon enough, but it has nothing to do with him being American. We're really not like that as a whole.
If this board has taught me anything it's that there are some proper whoppers from everywhere.
The worst part about this board is the best part of the site. The data base. No posters are more annoying than the ones who look up records and comment on fights and fighters they've never even read about.
That irritates the fornicate out of me too.

I won't even try to say I see every fight, reading the result and write ups isn't good enough to have an opinion for me. If I don't see it I don't have an opinion on it.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Brook is a spoiler. Spence is the goods.
There has been significant buzz behind him from boxing insiders.
Similar to how people feared Crawford before he was proven.

But they are fighting, so all opinions will be tested.

I might be in for another Dirrell/Degale siutation,
but I think Spence is closer to his prime than Dirrell was.
Brook isn't a spoiler he's and attacking fighter. I'll assume you're an American whose only seen the porter fight? Where brook landed the quality shots but tied porter up when he had too?

Spence may be the goods, or he may not. He's unproven. It fair to say the Americans have created a "significant buzz" about a lot of fighters over the years. Some go on, some don't
Have you seen Spence?

This is my favourite fight about right now, Spence looks the business but I have to agree with you, Brook certainly isn't a spoiler and Spence hasn't been anywhere near anyone like Brook. I'm edging to Spence though, hopefully the weight won't be a problem for Brook and if it's not it's a real fifty fifty fight IMO. Brook is much better than a lot of people give him credit for, he's just spent a lot of time treading water in his career for me.
Truth is I knew of spence before seeing him due to the hype and the knowledge of his record with good ko %. Since the fight was made I've looked up his fights, well Algieri and bundu and listened to a few reviews, Thurman etc

My honest unbalanced opinion is that this fight could go either way. Brook is generally underrated and is a real handful imo. But he's coming off a fight where he's injured and he's losing 160 muscle, so there's a couple variables.

Spence is unproven but he's worked his way to be the number one guy, so he's absolutely ready to challenge. If he beats brook he's the star of the division.

It may seem like I don't rate spence,but when there's all these posts hyping spence thru the roof there needs to be a little reality check. Which is bringing brooks respect and ability level up and shaving a bit of the hype off spence realistically. It's a great fight I can't wait for, but both guys will know there in for a fight
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Brook is a spoiler. Spence is the goods.
There has been significant buzz behind him from boxing insiders.
Similar to how people feared Crawford before he was proven.

But they are fighting, so all opinions will be tested.

I might be in for another Dirrell/Degale siutation,
but I think Spence is closer to his prime than Dirrell was.
Brook isn't a spoiler he's and attacking fighter. I'll assume you're an American whose only seen the porter fight? Where brook landed the quality shots but tied porter up when he had too?

Spence may be the goods, or he may not. He's unproven. It fair to say the Americans have created a "significant buzz" about a lot of fighters over the years. Some go on, some don't
Have you seen Spence?

This is my favourite fight about right now, Spence looks the business but I have to agree with you, Brook certainly isn't a spoiler and Spence hasn't been anywhere near anyone like Brook. I'm edging to Spence though, hopefully the weight won't be a problem for Brook and if it's not it's a real fifty fifty fight IMO. Brook is much better than a lot of people give him credit for, he's just spent a lot of time treading water in his career for me.
I've looked up spence vs algieri and bundu since the fight was made. He looks really good. It may seem I'm negative about him but when people are saying he's great, I disagree.

I completely agree with your assessment btw. There's no exaggerating spence etc, you side with him slightly that's fine.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Americans do that? Ftr, I agree that brook is far from a negative fighter. No need to get silly over it. All fans hype up fighters they like. I thought Frankie Gavin was going to be world class. I think Spence is going to be a p4p staple. We'll see soon enough, but it has nothing to do with him being American. We're really not like that as a whole.
No you're absolutely right hyping isn't specific to america
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Ossyrules wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Americans do that? Ftr, I agree that brook is far from a negative fighter. No need to get silly over it. All fans hype up fighters they like. I thought Frankie Gavin was going to be world class. I think Spence is going to be a p4p staple. We'll see soon enough, but it has nothing to do with him being American. We're really not like that as a whole.
No you're absolutely right hyping isn't specific to america
:TU: nothing wrong with cheering against the consensus either. I do it all the time.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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How about this: Spence is unproven, and Brook has proven himself once.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Spence thinks he can just KO anybody...if Kell's eye doesn't blemish in the fight then I'm picking him to best Spence by UD. Man Spence made a

mistake going over to England. :shame: :shame: :shame:
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I haven't seen anything with Spence dismissing brook as a fighter. Then again, neither have you.
:lol:
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Jip wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He will have some trouble, but it's Errol's time.

exactly. that sums it up
Yeah for me too
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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There is just one thing certain about Spence; his cajones are muy grande. He is invading the UK to engage The Battle of Kell Brook, who has no shortage of sac content himself.

The winner of this fight cracks my P4P top ten.
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Re: Brook vs Spence INTENSE Face Off

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Badhusker wrote:The reason I like Spence, and think he will stop Brook, is his great balance, great body work, great athletic ability, great combinations, and great power in both hands. Above all, the kid is confident yet still humble and is very hungry. Maybe I shouldn't say great yet, but when you have a lot of top trainers and promoters raving about him, they must see something most casual fans do not.
He does have a lot to learn still, but Jermell Charlo says no one works harder than Errol Spence, and he has sparred with him several times. DeLahoya says he is better than Floyd, and will destroy Brook. Roach said he is an incredible talent. Porter said he made Broner cry in sparring.

Doesn't have a great resume yet, but has a common opponent with Thurman, Khan, and Pacquiao. He outperformed all three. Time will tell, but he seems like he has the goods to match his hype.
Amen.
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