Povetkin vs Ortiz - who wins this match ?

[punchoutsb]

So Povetkin either being on steroids or not being on steroids has no relevance in his chances with facing off against Ortiz? I'd imagine his chances would increase in the case of the former. Hence it's relevant.

The Povetkin that fought Marco Huck existed in 2012. It's 2017, time to update your wall calendar.

Maybe. It is quite a unique concept to become a significantly harder puncher in your mid to late 30's however.

No maybe about it. This match would take place between the two current versions of these fighters, not one from today and one from the past.

[lefty]

The Povetkin that fought Marco Huck existed in 2012. It's 2017, time to update your wall calendar.

Maybe. It is quite a unique concept to become a significantly harder puncher in your mid to late 30's however.

No maybe about it. This match would take place between the two current versions of these fighters, not one from today and one from the past.

Stop being obtuse.

[punchoutsb]

Maybe. It is quite a unique concept to become a significantly harder puncher in your mid to late 30's however.

No maybe about it. This match would take place between the two current versions of these fighters, not one from today and one from the past.

Stop being obtuse.

OK

So who do you think would win?

[candyslim]

Did you mean Canadian Tyre Magazine? Oh man, a fellow fan I'm so excited! Did you see the last issue with the close up of the Maxxis C868s on the cover - a thing of wondrous beauty or what? I think I need a cold shower.

Now we're soul-mates can I have your Ortiz Povetkkn ticket? Nurse! ... Nuuuuurrrrse !

I am sorry I don't know who you are but our patient is going for his sleep now and I'm shutting down his computer

[Loki]

He defected, I doubt Cuba goes out of it's way to provide all the paper work on people who defect.

I think it was Tony Bellew who, while fighting in the amateurs met Ortiz. He was a fully grown man whilst Tony was very young and green. There have been plenty of accounts to state that Ortiz is a lot older than his papers suggest and with Cuba being somewhat closed, records of defectors can always be doctored.

This is also true with African fighters and footballers. e.g. Sam Peter, Samuel Eto and Yakubu.

Bellew talks nonsense. Bellew himself didn't start boxing until he was about 15 and thus he was probably 17 or something and Ortiz was about 21 at the time.

I know Bellew is a prick, no arguments there. But, it was also stated by Matthew Macklin as well.