Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Who wins?

Poll ended at 10 Apr 2017, 19:59

Povetkin
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55%
PEDvetkin
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45%
 
Total votes: 11

Ruthless-RKO
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Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Russian heavyweight contender Alexander Povetkin (31-1, 23 KOs) will fight on July 1 at the Russia Concert Hall in Moscow. His opponent will be named later.

According to his promoter, World of Boxing, the 37-year-old Povetkin will be free and clear to fight by that date with no restrictions after some complications with doping tests in 2016.

The card also features the comeback of former IBF super lightweight champion Eduard Troyanovski (25-1, 22 KOs), and heavyweight prospect Alexey Papin (6-0, 5 KOs).
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cold187
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by cold187 »

yes, fcuk a drug test, more heavyweight fights the better.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Enlightened-One »

Povetkin hasn't been banned by the Russian Boxing Federation, has he? He’s still ranked by the IBO.

He’s only excluded from the rankings of the main four boxing organisations. I don’t think they can stop him competing in his homeland, can they?

That being said, it's interesting to read Andrey Ryabinsky's comments about Povetkin being "free and clear to fight by that date with no restrictions after some complications with doping tests in 2016."

I wonder what he means by this? Is he expecting the judge (on the 21st April) to either order a new trial or overrule the jury’s decision for the Wilder lawsuit?

I’ve recently read unsubstantiated rumours about the Povetkin’s sample that contained the trace of Ostarine being allegedly tampered with, so I wonder if this is what he’s referring to also?
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Tanzio »

Is he fighting PEDvetkin? :maybe:
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by lefty »

Tanzio wrote:Is he fighting PEDvetkin? :maybe:
Triggered :OhYes:
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by greg »

Enlightened-One wrote:...
I’ve recently read unsubstantiated rumours about the Povetkin’s sample that contained the trace of Ostarine being allegedly tampered with, so I wonder if this is what he’s referring to also?
...may or may not be true, however Ostarine was not the subject matter of the trial you mention above..
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Enlightened-One »

greg wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:...
I’ve recently read unsubstantiated rumours about the Povetkin’s sample that contained the trace of Ostarine being allegedly tampered with, so I wonder if this is what he’s referring to also?
...may or may not be true, however Ostarine was not the subject matter of the trial you mention above..
The WBC claimed that there was insufficient evidence to make a definite finding about whether Povetkin actually ingested Meldonium from his "failed" WADA test, which he was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing by WADA, but they did say that...

...if there was an adverse finding concerning any of Povetkin’s samples during a one year period after the ruling, they would suspend him indefinitely.

The WBC also warned Ryabinsky that if the result of the Wilder trial found that Povetkin ingested Meldonium, something that they themselves admitted they couldn't prove, then they would not only withdraw his mandatory challenger status, but also impose any penalties upon him, such as a ban.

So my statement or question about Ostarine was relevant.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Tanzio »

I think that Povetkin has a decent chance v PEDvetkin. :OhYes:
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by ElJefe »

I wish this forum had a mute option like Twitter does. I'd love to never have to see these Povetkin threads again. Honestly don't know why so many people care about him.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by gilgamesh »

With him being banned from fighting basically everywhere but Russia I wouldn't think too many people would have much to gain by fighting him. A guy that's not in the loop for a big opportunity that wants some money might take the chance though.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by boxing_rocks »

ElJefe wrote:I wish this forum had a mute option like Twitter does. I'd love to never have to see these Povetkin threads again. Honestly don't know why so many people care about him.
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by ElJefe »

boxing_rocks wrote:
ElJefe wrote:I wish this forum had a mute option like Twitter does. I'd love to never have to see these Povetkin threads again. Honestly don't know why so many people care about him.
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by greg »

Enlightened-One wrote:
greg wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:...
I’ve recently read unsubstantiated rumours about the Povetkin’s sample that contained the trace of Ostarine being allegedly tampered with, so I wonder if this is what he’s referring to also?
...may or may not be true, however Ostarine was not the subject matter of the trial you mention above..
The WBC claimed that there was insufficient evidence to make a definite finding about whether Povetkin actually ingested Meldonium from his "failed" WADA test, which he was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing by WADA, but they did say that...

...if there was an adverse finding concerning any of Povetkin’s samples during a one year period after the ruling, they would suspend him indefinitely.

The WBC also warned Ryabinsky that if the result of the Wilder trial found that Povetkin ingested Meldonium, something that they themselves admitted they couldn't prove, then they would not only withdraw his mandatory challenger status, but also impose any penalties upon him, such as a ban.

So my statement or question about Ostarine was relevant.
..I was wondering if this coming court ruling on meldonium will be binding for ALL parties concerned including the alphabets and national federations, while Ostarine issue at this point seems to be the matter between Povetkin and WBC..
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by crusader »

ElJefe wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
ElJefe wrote:I wish this forum had a mute option like Twitter does. I'd love to never have to see these Povetkin threads again. Honestly don't know why so many people care about him.
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Wasn't even a year ago

He's one of the best and most proven in the division, and he's still fighting.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by punchoutsb »

Enlightened-One wrote: He’s only excluded from the rankings of the main four boxing organisations. I don’t think they can stop him competing in his homeland, can they?
No organization has the power to ban someone from boxing completely.
ElJefe wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
ElJefe wrote:I wish this forum had a mute option like Twitter does. I'd love to never have to see these Povetkin threads again. Honestly don't know why so many people care about him.
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Being one of the best HW's makes him relevant. The division is severely lacking in talent overall, and Povetkin is still right at the top.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by boxing_rocks »

crusader wrote:
ElJefe wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Wasn't even a year ago

He's still one of the best and most proven in the division, and he's still fighting.
Besides, Povetkin was a mandatory, so the only ways to avoid him was to drop the belt or to get him banned. Wilder has been successfully avoiding any significant challenges aiming to cash out against Joshua or Klitchko.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Tanzio »

If Povetkin can get by PEDvetkin, he may get a shot at Wilder. :maybe:
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by punchoutsb »

Tanzio wrote:If Povetkin can get by PEDvetkin, he may get a shot at Wilder. :maybe:
:lol:

A real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde case!
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

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punchoutsb wrote:
ElJefe wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Being one of the best HW's makes him relevant. The division is severely lacking in talent overall, and Povetkin is still right at the top.
Being a drug cheat that's not in the rankings makes him irrelevant. I don't care how good he might be, if he's juicing he should be banished from the sport.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Tanzio »

ElJefe wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
ElJefe wrote:
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Being one of the best HW's makes him relevant. The division is severely lacking in talent overall, and Povetkin is still right at the top.
Being a drug cheat that's not in the rankings makes him irrelevant. I don't care how good he might be, if he's juicing he should be banished from the sport.
But Povetkin deserves kudos for taking the risk of facing the likes of PEDvetkin :bow:
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

What an irrelevant clown.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Mexi-Box »

ElJefe wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
ElJefe wrote:I wish this forum had a mute option like Twitter does. I'd love to never have to see these Povetkin threads again. Honestly don't know why so many people care about him.
Maybe because people wanted Wilder to have a first real test.
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Because he beats everyone in the division except Wlad.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

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ElJefe wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
ElJefe wrote:
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Being one of the best HW's makes him relevant. The division is severely lacking in talent overall, and Povetkin is still right at the top.
Being a drug cheat that's not in the rankings makes him irrelevant. I don't care how good he might be, if he's juicing he should be banished from the sport.
Whether he should or shouldn't be banished for life is irrelevant since he's not banished for life. You can't plug your ears and sing La La La in the real world. Do you really believe Trevor Bryan is the 8th best Heavyweight in the world or at what point do rankings stop being important?
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by boxing_rocks »

ElJefe wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
ElJefe wrote:
But that was ages ago. And there's plenty more Heavyweights for Wilder to be tested against. I don't understand why people still think he's relevant.
Being one of the best HW's makes him relevant. The division is severely lacking in talent overall, and Povetkin is still right at the top.
Being a drug cheat that's not in the rankings makes him irrelevant. I don't care how good he might be, if he's juicing he should be banished from the sport.
Who is not juicing? I don't know if he was careless or was framed, but that is the only thing which differs him from others.
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Re: Povetkin returns July 1 in Moscow

Post by Tarkus »

I bet Dimitrenko would be up for it.
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