Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

Kovalev vs. Ward II: who will win?

Poll ended at 12 Jul 2017, 14:59

Kovalev by decision
11
18%
Kovalev by KO/TKO
15
24%
Ward by decision
27
44%
Ward by KO/TKO
2
3%
evenly matched, difficult to predict
7
11%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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comfortable descision for kovaev just like the last time
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Jip wrote:comfortable descision for kovaev just like the last time
Bruh, he lost "the last time."
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Tanzio wrote:
Jip wrote:comfortable descision for kovaev just like the last time
Bruh, he lost "the last time."

no, he won.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Jip wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Jip wrote:comfortable descision for kovaev just like the last time
Bruh, he lost "the last time."

no, he won.
Yes, SOGgy did win.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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I applaud Ward for agreeing the rematch. (He.must have gotten the $10 million+ that he was after)

I suspect that Kovalev goes in even harder than before snd stops him.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Baby Face Finster wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Lastly, I think that Kovalev thought that he had the fight in the bag and focused on finishing the fight on his feet...
If this truly was the case, then this shows a complete lack of professionalism from Kovalev, and in my opinion, he deserved to lose the bout if he really did allow several rounds to be close by “coasting” until he heard the final bell.
I generally don't respond to your posts because you are an annoying troll but it's irrelevant what anyone thinks Kovalev was thinking. Based on what transpired in the fight he should have gotten the decision and the majority of witnesses who saw the fight agree with that assessment. If there were no controversy about the result we wouldn't be having a rematch.
There was a rematch clause dipshiit. THAT is the only reason why we are seeing the rematch. So let's go back to you ignoring my stuff if you aren't bright enough to know why this rematch is taking place.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Lastly, I think that Kovalev thought that he had the fight in the bag and focused on finishing the fight on his feet...
If this truly was the case, then this shows a complete lack of professionalism from Kovalev, and in my opinion, he deserved to lose the bout if he really did allow several rounds to be close by “coasting” until he heard the final bell.
It happens a lot in this sport. The cerebral boxers are always keeping tally's of some kind in their heads while the fight is going on. They have a feel for when they win or lose a round. Now here, he had a knockdown early and there were rounds he definitely won and a lot of even rounds that he probably thought that he'd won half of them...unfortunately, he didn't win any of those even rounds with these idiotic judges.

I honestly think that if the judges for the Kovalev/Ward and GGG/Jacobs fights were swapped then we would have had 2 different winners. No idea what the judges were looking for. Kovalev won the fight comfortably on my card and I scored it 3 different times being as pro Ward as i could be, being that i'm a Kovalev fan.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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[Fighters *trying* to win by knockout against a a very good boxer/spoiler typically do not win by knockout.]

Dempsey v Tunney (twice) being the classic example, despite the 'long count'.

Its a tough one for Kovalev. He can't outbox Ward and won't knock him out late. He did the right thing last time by getting ahead on points and forcing Ward to win some rounds back.

For Ward its easy. Just avoid being KO'd and keep stealing rounds etc.

The referee and judges will be important once again.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Thomastearns wrote:[Fighters *trying* to win by knockout against a a very good boxer/spoiler typically do not win by knockout.]

Dempsey v Tunney (twice) being the classic example, despite the 'long count'.

Its a tough one for Kovalev. He can't outbox Ward and won't knock him out late. He did the right thing last time by getting ahead on points and forcing Ward to win some rounds back.

For Ward its easy. Just avoid being KO'd and keep stealing rounds etc.

The referee and judges will be important once again.
Kovalev already outboxed Ward once, and he will do it again. He should just capitalize on his superior skills and stop Ward instead of easing the grip.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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boxing_rocks wrote:
Thomastearns wrote:[Fighters *trying* to win by knockout against a a very good boxer/spoiler typically do not win by knockout.]

Dempsey v Tunney (twice) being the classic example, despite the 'long count'.

Its a tough one for Kovalev. He can't outbox Ward and won't knock him out late. He did the right thing last time by getting ahead on points and forcing Ward to win some rounds back.

For Ward its easy. Just avoid being KO'd and keep stealing rounds etc.

The referee and judges will be important once again.
Kovalev already outboxed Ward once, and he will do it again. He should just capitalize on his superior skills and stop Ward instead of easing the grip.
:roll:
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Yep, Krusher is doing a lot of big talk. None of which will mean a thing between the ropes in June. He best be working on his inside game. Holding won't get it done.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Kovalev was robbed in the first fight, and it was the kind of robbery that turned people away from the sport and jeopardized the credibility of the sport, being a unification match. In fact there were numerous robberies even on the undercard of Kovalev-Ward 1. People dont like to see that crap and tbh its why boxing has lost so many fans over the years and major media doesnt even bother to cover boxing anymore. Nobody cares anymore because the sport has absolutely fcuking zero in the way of credibility.

After watching that robbery, I havent watched a full boxing match since and tbh Im no longer interested. The sport itself is fraudulent and full of crap.

Kovalev must know he needs a KO to win. But we all knew that even before the 1st fight.

Overall its a sh1t fight in an even sh1ttier sport to be fair.

Larry Merchant said it best when describing the first fight "hometown (home country) decision on the biggest stage that probably caused boxing to lose fans".

Dont even think Ill bother to watch another setup and fixed rematch. Sh1t fight, sh1ttier sport. Not interested in watching another robbery or American blowhard decision.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Andrew Kearney wrote:Kovalev was robbed in the first fight, and it was the kind of robbery that turned people away from the sport and jeopardized the credibility of the sport, being a unification match. In fact there were numerous robberies even on the undercard of Kovalev-Ward 1. People dont like to see that crap and tbh its why boxing has lost so many fans over the years and major media doesnt even bother to cover boxing anymore. Nobody cares anymore because the sport has absolutely fcuking zero in the way of credibility.

After watching that robbery, I havent watched a full boxing match since and tbh Im no longer interested. The sport itself is fraudulent and full of crap.
My own enthusiasm for the sport of boxing has greatly decreased since the robbery, I'm not watching boxing as much now.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Well the grapevine delivered on the June date :TU:
I'm looking forward to the rematch, this might even be better than the first fight.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Jip wrote:comfortable descision for kovaev just like the last time

Comfortable :lol: get real mate it was a close fight no one won comfortably............Close and the right man got the decision In my opinion and it will be a repeat in the rematch but much clearer this time around Andre still King :salut:
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Jip wrote:comfortable descision for kovaev just like the last time

Comfortable :lol: get real mate it was a close fight no one won comfortably............Close and the right man got the decision In my opinion and it will be a repeat in the rematch but much clearer this time around Andre still King :salut:
Yes, that was a comfortable win by Kovalev. I wish it wasn't that comfortable, so that Kovalev wouldn't coast.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Ward won 5 or 6 of the last 7 rounds they've faced each other......that will just continue in the rematch.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Thought Ward was scared ... :zzz:
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Thought Ward was scared ... :zzz:
Very few wouldn't be.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Kovalev by 3rd round KO. Comes out like a bull and destroys Ward!
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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BAD INTENTIONS
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Fightdoctor wrote:Kovalev by 3rd round KO. Comes out like a bull and destroys Ward!
That plan could seriously backfire.
Kovalev needs another early KD so his fans could stop scoring.

Hopefully, Kovalev isn't allowed to hold for the first 6 rounds.
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II on June 17

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Both will go into training soon if not already.
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