Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
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apollo creed
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Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Of course that Berchelt, Corrales and Salido II would be good fights but I think Garcia and Crawford are the best fights that could be made for Lomachenko.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
He shouldn't move up.
Plenty to do where he is.
Once he goes up he is unlikely to come back down again.
Plenty to do where he is.
Once he goes up he is unlikely to come back down again.
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apollo creed
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Yup, but the high profile fights are up.Horse wrote:He shouldn't move up.
Plenty to do where he is.
Once he goes up he is unlikely to come back down again.
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He should go up eventually, but he should try to fight the best at his current weight first.apollo creed wrote:Yup, but the high profile fights are up.
They won't all duck him.
A loss to Lomachenko isn't going to make them look that bad and they can fight for the vacant titles when he moves up.
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Crawford is too big, a bunch of the top LHWs are with Haymon (Russell-Loma was an ordered title fight), and I'm not sure if Top Rank wants to put their aspiring PR star Verdejo in such a risky fight.
There are some good opponents for him at 135, but I'm not sure how feasible they are.
There are some good opponents for him at 135, but I'm not sure how feasible they are.
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apollo creed
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Loma - Flanagan winner vs Garcia - Linares winner or vice versa. 
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
getting sick with all this jumping around the weights, pick a division, win all the belts and then defend the sh!t outta them is another way to become great
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X2.Horse wrote:He shouldn't move up.
Plenty to do where he is.
Once he goes up he is unlikely to come back down again.
There are fearless, deserving kids at SFW. Davis is invading the UK on May 20, looking to take the IBF belt. Berchelt may be limited but he is plenty dangerous, having ktfo Vargas. Corrales has earned his place v the vaunted Uchiyama. And Miura is always dangerous for a caveman.
The idea that a Salido rematch is the only worthy fight at SFW smells like feces.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
I think people are allowed to be excited by this fella, he's doing mad things in the ring.
Hype is why the sport is alive I'd argue, see the way the UFC build up all their fighters, Joe Rogan yells about each fighter being the best ever at something.
Hype is why the sport is alive I'd argue, see the way the UFC build up all their fighters, Joe Rogan yells about each fighter being the best ever at something.
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I do not disagree. I am excited about boxing in general at the moment. Lomassiah is a chunk of that but so are Usyk and (for me) especially Gvozdyk.TheGingerBomber wrote:I think people are allowed to be excited by this fella, he's doing mad things in the ring.
Hype is why the sport is alive I'd argue, see the way the UFC build up all their fighters, Joe Rogan yells about each fighter being the best ever at something.
SOGgy v Krusher two is just around the corner. Brook v Spence is coming up. Hitman Jr.'s next fight is no joke. Gervonta Davis invading the UK is exciting.
When will the vaunted Beterbiev have his coming out party? Will GingerHead pass his circus act test and nutup to fight 3G in September? 3G should skip the mentally challenged Saunders and make the concessions necessary to get the Mexican diva in the ring.
Who will Mikey face next? How about Thurman? Speaking of which, Porter v Berto may end up being FOTY material.
Then there is the most important fight (by far) of all; AJ v Wlad.
Boxing is alive and well. Lomassiah is a small (though important) slice of it.
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Great post!Tanzio wrote:I do not disagree. I am excited about boxing in general at the moment. Lomassiah is a chunk of that but so are Usyk and (for me) especially Gvozdyk.TheGingerBomber wrote:I think people are allowed to be excited by this fella, he's doing mad things in the ring.
Hype is why the sport is alive I'd argue, see the way the UFC build up all their fighters, Joe Rogan yells about each fighter being the best ever at something.
SOGgy v Krusher two is just around the corner. Brook v Spence is coming up. Hitman Jr.'s next fight is no joke. Gervonta Davis invading the UK is exciting.
When will the vaunted Beterbiev have his coming out party? Will GingerHead pass his circus act test and nutup to fight 3G in September? 3G should skip the mentally challenged Saunders and make the concessions necessary to get the Mexican diva in the ring.
Who will Mikey face next? How about Thurman? Speaking of which, Porter v Berto may end up being FOTY material.
Then there is the most important fight (by far) of all; AJ v Wlad.
Boxing is alive and well. Lomassiah is a small (though important) slice of it.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Highly skilled fighter, that being said, I went to bed after the 5th round(watched the UFC first). Not that it was boring, just brutally uncompetitive and max was and nard are horrible together.
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boxing_rocks
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I hope that there was something attractive in that bedSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Highly skilled fighter, that being said, I went to bed after the 5th round(watched the UFC first). Not that it was boring, just brutally uncompetitive and max was and nard are horrible together.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Anything was more attractive than sitting through anymore of that mismatch.boxing_rocks wrote:I hope that there was something attractive in that bedSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Highly skilled fighter, that being said, I went to bed after the 5th round(watched the UFC first). Not that it was boring, just brutally uncompetitive and max was and nard are horrible together.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
I'm so with youlittlepug wrote:getting sick with all this jumping around the weights, pick a division, win all the belts and then defend the sh!t outta them is another way to become great
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The Crawford fight isn't realistic. Weight is too far off. Plus Crawford will be looking up himself.
Garcia is a good future bout, but I'd agree he has some work to do at SFW, hopefully Garcia still there when going up, or linares
Garcia is a good future bout, but I'd agree he has some work to do at SFW, hopefully Garcia still there when going up, or linares
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he should stay where he is, this is the perfect weight for him and with miguel berchelt, gervonta davis and possibly santa cruz moving up plenty of good opponents to face.
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TheGingerBomber
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Tanzio wrote:I do not disagree. I am excited about boxing in general at the moment. Lomassiah is a chunk of that but so are Usyk and (for me) especially Gvozdyk.TheGingerBomber wrote:I think people are allowed to be excited by this fella, he's doing mad things in the ring.
Hype is why the sport is alive I'd argue, see the way the UFC build up all their fighters, Joe Rogan yells about each fighter being the best ever at something.
SOGgy v Krusher two is just around the corner. Brook v Spence is coming up. Hitman Jr.'s next fight is no joke. Gervonta Davis invading the UK is exciting.
When will the vaunted Beterbiev have his coming out party? Will GingerHead pass his circus act test and nutup to fight 3G in September? 3G should skip the mentally challenged Saunders and make the concessions necessary to get the Mexican diva in the ring.
Who will Mikey face next? How about Thurman? Speaking of which, Porter v Berto may end up being FOTY material.
Then there is the most important fight (by far) of all; AJ v Wlad.
Boxing is alive and well. Lomassiah is a small (though important) slice of it.
Can't disagree!
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Me too....TheGingerBomber wrote:Tanzio wrote:I do not disagree. I am excited about boxing in general at the moment. Lomassiah is a chunk of that but so are Usyk and (for me) especially Gvozdyk.TheGingerBomber wrote:I think people are allowed to be excited by this fella, he's doing mad things in the ring.
Hype is why the sport is alive I'd argue, see the way the UFC build up all their fighters, Joe Rogan yells about each fighter being the best ever at something.
SOGgy v Krusher two is just around the corner. Brook v Spence is coming up. Hitman Jr.'s next fight is no joke. Gervonta Davis invading the UK is exciting.
When will the vaunted Beterbiev have his coming out party? Will GingerHead pass his circus act test and nutup to fight 3G in September? 3G should skip the mentally challenged Saunders and make the concessions necessary to get the Mexican diva in the ring.
Who will Mikey face next? How about Thurman? Speaking of which, Porter v Berto may end up being FOTY material.
Then there is the most important fight (by far) of all; AJ v Wlad.
Boxing is alive and well. Lomassiah is a small (though important) slice of it.
Can't disagree!
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ValMar wrote:Me too....TheGingerBomber wrote:Tanzio wrote: I do not disagree. I am excited about boxing in general at the moment. Lomassiah is a chunk of that but so are Usyk and (for me) especially Gvozdyk.
SOGgy v Krusher two is just around the corner. Brook v Spence is coming up. Hitman Jr.'s next fight is no joke. Gervonta Davis invading the UK is exciting.
When will the vaunted Beterbiev have his coming out party? Will GingerHead pass his circus act test and nutup to fight 3G in September? 3G should skip the mentally challenged Saunders and make the concessions necessary to get the Mexican diva in the ring.
Who will Mikey face next? How about Thurman? Speaking of which, Porter v Berto may end up being FOTY material.
Then there is the most important fight (by far) of all; AJ v Wlad.
Boxing is alive and well. Lomassiah is a small (though important) slice of it.
Can't disagree!
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Lomachenko should NOT MOVE UP.
And I'm saying this as probably his biggest fan. Stay at the division, rematch Salido, unify at least with one other title holder, then maybe move up. There are plenty of fights at the division. Arum is bull sh*tting when he says nobody wants to fight. Everyone will fight for good money. Open up your pockets Bob, and do what's right for Vasyl and make him into a true boxing legend and not another one of your cash cows.
And I'm saying this as probably his biggest fan. Stay at the division, rematch Salido, unify at least with one other title holder, then maybe move up. There are plenty of fights at the division. Arum is bull sh*tting when he says nobody wants to fight. Everyone will fight for good money. Open up your pockets Bob, and do what's right for Vasyl and make him into a true boxing legend and not another one of your cash cows.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Personally, I agree, but if he waits long, then Mikey will not be at 135 anymore, and morons will forever blame Loma like they blame GGG for not fighting Ward.klitoris wrote:Lomachenko should NOT MOVE UP.
And I'm saying this as probably his biggest fan. Stay at the division, rematch Salido, unify at least with one other title holder, then maybe move up.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
Loma/Mikey is highly unlikely.
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Ya, I don't know why people keep going on about it like there's a good chance of it happening. Haymon + Arum + a fighter who was inactive for 2 years in a dispute with Arum = not likelySaadOffTheDeck wrote:Loma/Mikey is highly unlikely.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko - daring to be great
It would be their highest payday for both of them, so who knows. We also don't know if Loma stays with Arum if he feels that Bob limits his opportunities.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Loma/Mikey is highly unlikely.
On an unrelated note, Vasyl's English is not bad:
http://www.ringtv.com/videos/vasyl-loma ... ure-plans/
He speaks better than Golovkin, but doesn't do it in front of big audience, as he can't fully express himself.