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[crl333]

I must be on a Vito Antuofermo kick because I decided to re-watch the first fight between Vito and Marvin Hagler. Now, I haven't seen this fight since I watched it live back in '79 and at that time I scored it 8-7 in Hagler's favor. So, I really didn't have too much of a problem with the draw decision. Click on 38 years later and here is my scorecard today.

Round 1: 10-9 Marvin
Round 2: 10-9 Marvin
Round 3: 10-9 Marvin
Round 4: 10-9 Marvin
Round 5: 10-9 Vito
Round 6: 10-9 Marvin
Round 7: 10-9 Marvin
Round 8: 10-9 Marvin
Round 9: 10-9 Marvin
Round 10: 10-9 Vito
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-9 Vito
Round 13: 10-9 Vito
Round 14: 10-9 Vito
Round 15: 10-9 Marvin

Total: 145-141 Marvin Hagler

I recall back in the day I had the fight dead even going into the 15th and gave the last round to Marvin. Looking at it now I obviously have 2 rounds scored differently. One round that I had for Vito back then I now scored for Marvin and another round for Vito I now have even, which makes up a 9-5-1 card in rounds. A herculean effort by Vito but Hagler scored with the cleaner shots. I looked over this site and another site and there does seem to be a question over rounds 7,8 & 9, where some people scored those rounds for Vito and I had it for Marvin. Anyway, I would love to hear some of your views

1. H
2. H
3. H
4. Ev
5. A
6. H
7. H
8. A
9. A
10. A
11. H
12. H
13. A
14. H
15. H

145-141 Hagler

[PredatorHayds]

Did you see the Gonzalez fight last night mate?

Did not. Had to attend a family wedding, which I feel was very inconsiderate of them. Did they have to schedule this on a fight-night? LOL! I had done a bit of studying on Chocalitio's opponent and was so impressed with his record that I predicted to a buddy of mine that I think Gonzalez is going to scrape home, but not without a scare. Of course I know now (because he called me) that the scare came in the first round. But I am seeing all kinds of mixed views over the net on the decision. Did you feel it was correct? I should be able to catch this next weekend, but I respect the views of all you guys on this thread. So, talk to me, dude.

I can't post a link from my phone but my view is on the thread in the British forum, my card was

8 10
9 10
10 9
10 9
10 9
10 8
9 10
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
10 9
Gonzalez 114 Rungvisai 112 really good fight, four close rounds of which three i scored to Gonzalez, when he's in an offensive roll he's as good as the Duran/Chavez best technical pressure fighters we have seen.

I also had Roman by 2.

[scartissue]

crl333, thanks for your input. Not counting the 2 even rounds we had, we actually disagreed on 4 rounds. 8, 9, 12 and 14. I must look at these again, but I won't second-guess myself. Some of these rounds were real swing rounds, which alone will tell one the controversial nature in the scoring of the fight. I feel comfortable in my score, but there is obviously room for thought with how some of these rounds played out.

[crl333]

crl333, thanks for your input. Not counting the 2 even rounds we had, we actually disagreed on 4 rounds. 8, 9, 12 and 14. I must look at these again, but I won't second-guess myself. Some of these rounds were real swing rounds, which alone will tell one the controversial nature in the scoring of the fight. I feel comfortable in my score, but there is obviously room for thought with how some of these rounds played out.

Enjoyed watching this fight and the fight with Minter, don't think I had really watched them since the time they happened.
Vito was good value for money but I found his style hard to score, many of these rounds weren't clear cut but think Hagler deserved this.

[Seamus]

Watched some really disappointing fights this week.

Ossie Ocasio vs Dwight Muhammad Qawi. Gave Ocasio the 1st and 8th and had the 4th and 10 th even. 98-94 for Qawi. DO NOT WATCH THIS FIGHT ! It was as boring as they come, Ocasio ran the whole fight while occasionally throwing weak punches, while Qawi eventually got bored trying to chase him. Incredibly Ocasio got the decision.

Dwight Muhammad Qawi vs Lee Roy Murphy. Qawi won every round, dropped Murphy once in the 5th and twice in the 6th for the TKO. Better than the Ocasio bout, but Murphy was just there for a payday.

Fidel Bassa vs Jesus Rojas

R1.10-9 FB
R2.10-9 FB
R3.10-10
R4.10-10
R5.10-10
R6.10-9 FB
R7.10-9 FB
R8.10-9 FB
R9.10-9 FB
R10.10-8 JR (Bassa down from a flurry and a push)
R11.10-9 JR
R12.10-9 JR

Fidel Bassa 116-114

Even this was a disappointing fight. Both guys had trouble with there footing and held and hit alot. Several rds looked close, but I ended up having Bassa well ahead on my card when he suddenly faded badly in the 10th.

Gianfranco Rosi vs Lupe Aquino

R1.10-9 LA
R2.10-9 GR
R3.10-9 LA
R4.10-9 LA
R5.10-9 GR
R6.10-9 GR
R7.10-9 LA
R8.10-9 LA
R9.10-9 LA
R10.10-9 LA
R11.10-9 GR
R12.10-9 GR

Lupe Aquino 115-113

Another bad fight in which neither man impressed. The commentators, Donald Curry and someone else both remarkably fawned over the Italian fighter

[scartissue]

Watched some really disappointing fights this week.

Ossie Ocasio vs Dwight Muhammad Qawi. Gave Ocasio the 1st and 8th and had the 4th and 10 th even. 98-94 for Qawi. DO NOT WATCH THIS FIGHT ! It was as boring as they come, Ocasio ran the whole fight while occasionally throwing weak punches, while Qawi eventually got bored trying to chase him. Incredibly Ocasio got the decision.

Seamus, I scored Qawi-Ocasio some time ago. Here is what I wrote:

Here's a controversial one for you. Dwight Muhammad Qawi against Ossie Ocasio - 10 rounds. Note to self: If watching it, use your own judgement and don't be swayed by Ferdie Pacheco who scored it 10-0 for Qawi.

Round 1: 10-9 Ocasio
Round 2: 10-9 Qawi
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Qawi
Round 5: 10-9 Qawi
Round 6: 10-9 Ocasio
Round 7: 10-9 Qawi
Round 8: 10-9 Ocasio
Round 9: 10-9 Qawi
Round 10: 10-9 Qawi

97-94 Qawi

Despite Pacheco's blatant bias for Qawi, he was indeed robbed.

[scartissue]

Watched another classic today from Madison Square Garden. Early '60s fight between Henry Hank and Mauro Mina of Peru. Rounds basis.

Round 1: Hank
Round 2: Hank
Round 3: Mina
Round 4: Hank
Round 5: Mina (great round, could have been fought in a phone booth)
Round 6: Mina
Round 7: Mina
Round 8: Even
Round 9: Even (very little of substance took place this round - you could give to Mina on aggression but I said even)
Round 10: Mina

Total 5-3-2 Mina

I was so impressed with Mina's jab and short hooks inside. Don't know the story on this guy. Retired in '65 at the top of his game. This was his only fight in the U.S. MSG seemed to be impressed with him but he went back down to Peru and finished his career without a title shot. He should have pressed this and stayed in NY. You have to go where the money and opportunities are. Maybe just bad management.

[Seamus]

I scored it in Feb of last year.

Mauro Mina vs Henry Hank

R1.HH
R2.HH
R3.Even
R4.HH
R5.MM
R6.MM
R7.MM
R8.MM
R9.Even
R10.MM

Under New York State scoring Mauro Mina 5-3

Interesti9ng contrast in styles and how they were reversed in the fight. Through the first 4 rds, Hank was the aggressor with Mina looking to counter. In the 5th Mina took the fight to Hank on inside and had alot of success, while around the 8th, Hank moved to the outside and looked to counter. Decent fight that was won by Mina via a split decision.

[scartissue]

Pretty damn identical there, Seamus. I see one of the officials also tallied a 5-3-2 for Mina. Nice fight.

[scartissue]

Did you see the Gonzalez fight last night mate?

Did not. Had to attend a family wedding, which I feel was very inconsiderate of them. Did they have to schedule this on a fight-night? LOL! I had done a bit of studying on Chocalitio's opponent and was so impressed with his record that I predicted to a buddy of mine that I think Gonzalez is going to scrape home, but not without a scare. Of course I know now (because he called me) that the scare came in the first round. But I am seeing all kinds of mixed views over the net on the decision. Did you feel it was correct? I should be able to catch this next weekend, but I respect the views of all you guys on this thread. So, talk to me, dude.

I can't post a link from my phone but my view is on the thread in the British forum, my card was

8 10
9 10
10 9
10 9
10 9
10 8
9 10
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
10 9
Gonzalez 114 Rungvisai 112 really good fight, four close rounds of which three i scored to Gonzalez, when he's in an offensive roll he's as good as the Duran/Chavez best technical pressure fighters we have seen.

Counter, had a chance to watch it this weekend. We're so close but different winners.

Round 1: 10-8 Rungvisai (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: 10-9 Rungvisai
Round 3: 10-9 Gonzalez
Round 4: 10-9 Gonzalez
Round 5: 10-9 Gonzalez
Round 6: 10-8 Gonzalez (Gonzalez wins the round and Rungvisai has a point deducted for use of the head)
Round 7: 10-9 Rungvisai
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Rungvisai
Round 10: 10-9 Rungvisai
Round 11: 10-9 Rungvisai
Round 12: 10-9 Gonzalez

Total: 114-113 Rungvisai

The fight had a real pattern of Rungvisai being the busier and Gonzalez being the more accurate. Wouldn't have had an issue with a draw.

[Counter-puncher]

114-113 either way or a draw is fine with me

[Seamus]

Now for 3 Chana Porpaoin fights, who believe it or not is more entertaining to watch than Hasim Rahman.

Chana Porpaoin vs Hideyuki Ohashi.

Chana Porpaoin 120-108

This was possibly the most exciting shutout fight I've ever seen, because Ohashi lands good shots in virtually every round of the bout. The problem is however that Porpaoin get's in first,last, and between, while Ohashi just isn't busy enough. Two judges had Porpaoin winning by 7 and 5 pts while the other unbelievably had it a draw.

Chana Porpaoin vs Carlos Murillo

R1.10-9 CM
R2.10-9 CP
R3.10-10
R4.10-10
R5.10-9 CP
R6.10-10
R7.10-10
R8.10-9 CM
R9.10-9 CM
R10.10-10
R11.10-9 CP
R12.10-9 CP

Chana Porpaoin 117-116

This bout had non-stopping action with the challenger, not as sharp as Porpaoin, but still making it close with his aggressive style. Porpaoin finally began to look the stronger of the two in the last couple rounds. Two judges had Porpaoin winning by 3 while the 3rd scored it a draw.

Chana Porpaoin vs Ronnie Magramo

I gave Magramo the 8th and had the 1st and 4th even for a score of 119-111 for Porpaoin.
Yet another game challenger who threw a ton of punches but just wasn't as accurate as the champion. The judges had Porpaoin winning by 10-8-3 pts.

[scartissue]

Alexis Arguello - Ray 'Boom-Boom' Mancini

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Mancini
Round 3: 10-9 Mancini
Round 4: 10-9 Mancini
Round 5: 10-9 Mancini
Round 6: 10-9 Mancini
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Arguello
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Arguello
Round 11: 10-9 Arguello
Round 12: 10-8 Arguello (scores a knockdown)
Round 13: 10-9 Arguello
Round 14: Arguello scores a stoppage win

Total through 13 completed rounds: 125-124 Arguello

Alexis Arguello truly was a 15 round fighter. You may get off to a good start over him as Ray did, but he bides his time with every hook, uppercut, cross, jab and bodyshot which slowly whittles down the resolve, ribs and skin on his opponent before cueing him up for the KO. Remarkable fighter.

[Counter-puncher]

Alexis Arguello - Ray 'Boom-Boom' Mancini

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Mancini
Round 3: 10-9 Mancini
Round 4: 10-9 Mancini
Round 5: 10-9 Mancini
Round 6: 10-9 Mancini
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Arguello
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Arguello
Round 11: 10-9 Arguello
Round 12: 10-8 Arguello (scores a knockdown)
Round 13: 10-9 Arguello
Round 14: Arguello scores a stoppage win

Total through 13 completed rounds: 125-124 Arguello

Alexis Arguello truly was a 15 round fighter. You may get off to a good start over him as Ray did, but he bides his time with every hook, uppercut, cross, jab and bodyshot which slowly whittles down the resolve, ribs and skin on his opponent before cueing him up for the KO. Remarkable fighter.

Great fight. I don't recall scoring it but IIRC I would have had a couple of those earlier rounds to Arguello.

Like you say his (15-round) patience was awesome, though you could say with his relatively slow feet and hands much of the time he had to be that patient.

The counter left hooks and right uppercuts to the body were what really wore Mancini down, I thought

Slightly sadly for Mancini i don't think he ever looked quite as good again, his foot and head movement was pretty darn good against Arguello but he quite quickly IMO regressed to a straight-ahead brawler type relying on his chin and physical strength

[scartissue]

Hey, Counter, I just treated myself to another remarkable fight. The first fight between Chartchai Chionoi and Efren 'Alacran' Torres. What a fight!

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-8 Chionoi (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Torres
Round 4: 10-9 Torres
Round 5: 10-9 Chionoi
Round 6: 10-9 Torres
Round 7: 10-9 Torres
Round 8: 10-9 Torres
Round 9: 10-9 Torres (very close round)
Round 10: 10-9 Chionoi (towards the end of this round Chinoi realizes he can hit Torres anytime he wants with that overhand right because he can't see from the cut)
Round 11: 10-9 Torres (almost scored this 10-8)
Round 12: 10-10 Even (Torres was winning this round until CC hurt him with a left-right and followed up well)
Round 13: Mercante and the doctor stop the fight in Chionoi's favor due to a severe cut on Torres' left eye

Total through 12 completed rounds: 116-113 Torres

I just loved Torres' short, hurtful punches and he just loved getting Chionoi on those ropes. I also loved that overhand right of CC, which was the same shot he decked Masao Ohba with in the first round of their fight. There were about 2 other rounds that could have also been considered a 10-8, which I should have made a note on. I can't say enough about this fight. Just a great fight.

[Counter-puncher]

Yeah I checked this one out a few weeks back but I'd had a glass of wine or two so didn't score it. Real style contrast considering they were both basically aggressive fighters.

[Seamus]

Couple of one sided fights

Juan LaPorte vs John John Molina

120-109 John John Molina

Worst performance I've ever seen from LaPorte. Molina easily won the first 8 rds with a heavy dose of double jabs, straight rights and left hooks, but even after he took his foot off the pedal and decided to coast for the last 4, LaPorte couldn't mount an attack.

Jeff Fenech vs Steve M<cCrory

TKO 14 Jeff Fenech. Fenech ahead on my card by a whopping 129-117. McCrory won the 6th, Fenech won the rest, including the 13th when he dropped McCrory with a right to the body during a flurry on the ropes. Fight stopped with McCrory defenseless and being battered around the ring.

It's pretty hard to envision a worse fight plan than the one McCrory employed in this bout. You're a good stick and move fighter who can slip punches and use the ring, but you lack hitting power, and you're up against a strong, durable guy who's a wicked bodypuncher with excellent stamina. So just go toe to toe with him for the first 5 rds and try to hurt him with the odd counter punch as he smothers you with non-stop aggression. The really amazing thing was that McCrory made it into the 14th and was still on his feet when the fight was stopped.

[Seamus]

Yuri Arbachakov vs Chatchai Sasakul II

R1.10-10
R2.10-9 CS
R3.10-9 CS
R4.10-9 CS
R5.10-9 YA
R6.10-9 CS
R7.10-9 CS
R8.10-10
R9.10-9 CS
R10.10-9 CS
R11.10-9 CS
R12.10-9 YA

Chatchai Sasakul 118-112

Not a particularly entertaining fight. Arbachakov started most rounds well, but them became too tentative. Sasakul would also go long periods without doing much, but at least when he countered he through flurries.

Freddie Norwood vs Juan Manuel Marquez

R1.10-10
R2.10-8 FN (Marquez down from a pair of left crosses to the jaw)
R3.10-10
R4.10-9 FN
R5.10-10
R6.10-10
R7.10-9 FN
R8.10-9 10-9 JMM (Norwood clearly down from a left hook to the head, but Joe Cortez blows the call)
R9.10-8 JMM (Norwood down from right-left to the head near the end of the round)
R10.10-9 JMM
R11.10-9 JMM
R12.10-9 JMM

Juan Manuel Marquez 116-114

This was a very disappointing, despite the knockdowns, with both men showing a lack of activity more often than not. Marquez finally began showing a little aggression (and I do mean a little) in the 8th rd, and that appeared to be enough to win it for him, but Norwood ended winning by a pretty wide margin on the cards, something he almost appeared to anticipate. DON'T waste your time on this one.

[scartissue]

Jose Napoles - Billy Backus II

Here is a fight I watched on delayed telecast when I was about 14. I recall at the time that I thought Backus did quite well until the KO, but then again, I knew next to nothing about Napoles at the time. Here we go, California rules.

Round 1: Even
Round 2: Napoles
Round 3: Napoles
Round 4: Napoles
Round 5: Napoles
Round 6: Backus
Round 7: Backus
Round 8: After Backus is dropped for the second time, the doctor stops the bout due to the amount of facial damage suffered by Backus.

Total through 7 completed rounds: 4-2 Napoles

Napoles was such a cool customer. Never at any time would he give you the impression he was not in control. He did appear to struggle with Backus' southpaw style however, and I thought Backus stayed right with him round after round. The two rounds I gave Backus was clearly because Napoles took his foot off the pedal and then of course, Napoles just turned it on when he wished. The damage to Backus features was slow and methodical, but take nothing from Billy, he was a good tough fighter.

[dagosd2000]

Jose Napoles - Billy Backus II

Here is a fight I watched on delayed telecast when I was about 14. I recall at the time that I thought Backus did quite well until the KO, but then again, I knew next to nothing about Napoles at the time. Here we go, California rules.

Round 1: Even
Round 2: Napoles
Round 3: Napoles
Round 4: Napoles
Round 5: Napoles
Round 6: Backus
Round 7: Backus
Round 8: After Backus is dropped for the second time, the doctor stops the bout due to the amount of facial damage suffered by Backus.

Total through 7 completed rounds: 4-2 Napoles

Napoles was such a cool customer. Never at any time would he give you the impression he was not in control. He did appear to struggle with Backus' southpaw style however, and I thought Backus stayed right with him round after round. The two rounds I gave Backus was clearly because Napoles took his foot off the pedal and then of course, Napoles just turned it on when he wished. The damage to Backus features was slow and methodical, but take nothing from Billy, he was a good tough fighter.

Dan,I think one of the coolest moments of that fight was about 10 seconds into the 1st round.Backus opens up the cut above Jose's eye. Napoles pauses,dabs his glove on the eye,looks at the blood on his glove,and then proceeds like it's no big deal.If you watch that replay with Tom Harmon and Mickey Davies doing the commentary,I wonder what they were watching.Harmon calls Backus a "left handed Carmen Basilio".Davies says that the way you attack a southpaw is with a left hook. Napoles beat Backus with his jab and right hand,leads and counters.Napoles had that going in their 1st fight in Syracuse,but when the cut opened ,fighting in Billy's backyard, it was just a matter of time. When the doc looked at the cut,he said he could see clear down to the bone.Joey Bishop sat with Harmon and Davies for a round.It sounded like it was his first time watching a fight in front of all those crazy aficianados. He was amazed by the electricity in the air. He also commented on how "cool" Napoles was in the ring.Probably the first time he saw him fight.Napoles tried some surgery to reinforce the tissue around his eyes. It only made the problem worse.

Dan,I'm going to PM you now.Rog

[scartissue]

Jose Napoles - Billy Backus II

Here is a fight I watched on delayed telecast when I was about 14. I recall at the time that I thought Backus did quite well until the KO, but then again, I knew next to nothing about Napoles at the time. Here we go, California rules.

Round 1: Even
Round 2: Napoles
Round 3: Napoles
Round 4: Napoles
Round 5: Napoles
Round 6: Backus
Round 7: Backus
Round 8: After Backus is dropped for the second time, the doctor stops the bout due to the amount of facial damage suffered by Backus.

Total through 7 completed rounds: 4-2 Napoles

Napoles was such a cool customer. Never at any time would he give you the impression he was not in control. He did appear to struggle with Backus' southpaw style however, and I thought Backus stayed right with him round after round. The two rounds I gave Backus was clearly because Napoles took his foot off the pedal and then of course, Napoles just turned it on when he wished. The damage to Backus features was slow and methodical, but take nothing from Billy, he was a good tough fighter.

Dan,I think one of the coolest moments of that fight was about 10 seconds into the 1st round.Backus opens up the cut above Jose's eye. Napoles pauses,dabs his glove on the eye,looks at the blood on his glove,and then proceeds like it's no big deal.If you watch that replay with Tom Harmon and Mickey Davies doing the commentary,I wonder what they were watching.Harmon calls Backus a "left handed Carmen Basilio".Davies says that the way you attack a southpaw is with a left hook. Napoles beat Backus with his jab and right hand,leads and counters.Napoles had that going in their 1st fight in Syracuse,but when the cut opened ,fighting in Billy's backyard, it was just a matter of time. When the doc looked at the cut,he said he could see clear down to the bone.Joey Bishop sat with Harmon and Davies for a round.It sounded like it was his first time watching a fight in front of all those crazy aficianados. He was amazed by the electricity in the air. He also commented on how "cool" Napoles was in the ring.Probably the first time he saw him fight.Napoles tried some surgery to reinforce the tissue around his eyes. It only made the problem worse.

Dan,I'm going to PM you now.Rog

Rog, to explode a myth about Napoles, I want to mention what the first thing pops into one's mind when they think of his faults. And of course, everyone will mention cuts. But to tell you the truth, I put that down to a long, arduous career rather than tissue-paper skin which everyone brings up. By he time he fought Backus - which was his 70th pro fight - he had only one recorded issue with cuts and that was one of his bouts with LC Morgan. That's not too shabby and that's counting fights with Carlos Hernandez, Eddie Perkins, 2 fights with Curtis Cokes, Emile Griffith and Ernie Lopez. The 2 fights with Backus, who was a southpaw and resulted in a number of butts, he did cut. He also cut in the rematch with Ernie Lopez 2 years after the 2nd Backus fight. I believe the Monzon fight was his Waterloo. That and as I said before, the long arduous career catching up with him. He cut in the Lewis rematch, Muniz, of course, destroyed him and then the Stracey debacle. But there was quite the number of solid 15 rounders where he came out of it without a scratch, such as the first Lewis fight, the Gray fight and Menetrey. The Napoles prime (1969), he was solid. And if one ever saw the needle-like jab of Curtis Cokes in action, then one may have to reassess the whole blood-letting stigma surrounding Napoles.

[Seamus]

Saen Soer Ploenchit vs Yong Soon Chang

R1.10-9 YSC
R2.10-9 SSP
R3.10-9 YSC
R4.10-9 SSP
R5.10-9 YSC
R6.10-9 YSC
R7.10-10
R8.10-10
R9.10-8 SSP (Chang down)
R10.10-10
R11.10-10
R12.10-8 SSP (Chang down)

Saen Sor Ploenchit 116-114

This was an OUTSTANDING fight with non-stop action and both guys giving it there all. Does anyone know if Yong Soon Chang is Jung Koo's brother ? There's a resemblance and he sure fights like him.

Jose Bonilla vs Saen Sor Ploenchit

R1.10-9 SSP
R2.10-9 SSp
R3.10-9 JB
R4.10-9 JB
R5.10-10
R6.10-9 JB
R7.10-10
R8.10-9 JB
R9.10-9 JB
R10.10-9 JB
R11.10-9 JB
R12.10-10

Jose Bonilla 118-113

Stylewise, if there's anyone Bonilla reminds me of it's Ernesto Marcel. He shows alot of movement, and when he slips a punch he answers with 4-6 counters at a time, which was too much for Ploenchit's jab-straight right, jab-straight right.

Hugo Rafael Soto vs Jose Bonilla

R1.10-10
R2.10-10
R3.10-9 HS
R4.10-9 HS
R5.10-10
R6.10-9 JB
R7.10-9 JB
R8.10-9 JB
R9.10-9 HS
R10.10-10
R11.10-9 JB
R12.10-9 HS

116-116

Not a particularly entertaining fight. Bonilla clearly the more skillfull of the two, but Soto the bigger puncher, who had his man hurt a little a couple of times but couldn't do anything with it.

[Seamus]

Jung Koo Chang vs Hideyuki Ohashi II

R1.10-9 JKC
R2.10-9 JKC
R3.10-7 JKC (Ohashi down from a left hook to the jaw, then for a second time from a right uppercut, and a third time from a flurry with a right to head doing the damage. In the last 30 seconds Chang get's wobbled and hurt badly by a right to the jaw)
R4.10-9 JKC
R5.10-10
R6.10-9 JKC
R7.10-7 JKC (Ohashi down twice from flurries)

Jung Koo Chang TKO 8 ahead 70-60 at the time (scoring in this bout was ridiculously close)

This was the bout where Chang supposedly first started going downhill skills wise. His defense looked poor and Ohashi had him serious trouble at the end of the 3rd.

Kid Gavilan vs Carmen Basilio

R1.1pt KG
R2.2pts CB (Gavilan down from a pair of left hooks)
R3.Even
R4.1pt CB
R5.1pt KG
R6.1pt KG
R7.1pt CB
R8.1pt KG
R9.Even
R10.1pt KG
R11.1pt KG
R12.1pt CB
R13.1pt KG
R14.1pt KG
R15.1pt KG

Kid Gavilan 9-5

Considering the names involved in this bout I expected alot more and ended up a bit disappointed. Both guys showed each other too much respect and the exchanges were nothing special.

[scartissue]

I was reading a post on Classic American West Coast Boxing by our friend Roger (dagos2000) discussing Vicente Saldivar's title losing fight with Kuniaki Shibata and realized I never watched this one before. Definitely a different fight for saldivar. Not the pressure type fighter that thrived on the late rounds-type fighter. Anyways, I scored it and my card differs from most I would believe because the 3 Mexican officials, whom you would think would be very partial towards Saldivar, had Shibata ahead at the end.

Round 1: 10-9 Shibata
Round 2: 10-9 Saldivar
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Saldivar
Round 5: 10-9 Saldivar
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Saldivar
Round 8: 10-9 Shibata
Round 9: 10-9 Saldivar
Round 10: 10-9 Shibata
Round 11: 10-9 Shibata
Round 12: 10-9 Saldivar
Saldivar retires in his corner at the bell for the 13th

Total through 12 completed rounds: 116-114 Saldivar

I find Shibata a bit infuriating to watch. This was similar to his fight with Marcel, where he will explode in spurts but never seems to sustain an attack. Rounds 3 and 6 really exemplify this. He managed an episode of power punches, but then turned off the switch allowing Saldivar back into the round. A couple of rounds where most probably gave it to Shibata, but maybe my conservative way of scoring just wouldn't allow it as Saldivar kept popping his southpaw jab followed by a straight left. Not really an exciting attack but it was effective. Anyways, again, my score will probably differ from others. But it is what it is.

[Seamus]

Here's what I had last yr

Kuniaki Shibata vs Vicente Saldivar

R1.10-9 KS
R2.10-9 VS
R3.10-10
R4.10-9 KS
R5.10-10
R6.10-9 KS
R7.10-9 VS
R8.10-9 KS
R9.10-9 VS
R10.10-9 KS
R11.10-9 KS
R12.10-9 KS

Kuniaki Shibata 117-113 at the time of the TKO (Saldivar didn't answer the bell for the 13th rd)

Fairly close fight through the first 9 rds, but Shibata begins scoring heavily with headshots from the 10 th round on. Quite a performance from Shibata, who had no impressive names on his resume at this time and who never looked hurt in the bout, despite trading with Saldivar several times.