David Haye's route back?

LasPalmas
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David Haye's route back?

Post by LasPalmas »

I can see the obvious of which is the rematch with Bellew. But will Bellew want to fight him again, that is another story. I do believe Haye was unlucky and probably would ha won but was not 100% fit and should have not fought anyway. But everyone has their opinion.

I think the other route is as Shannon Briggs.

Briggs fights in June for WBA regular, assuming he wins, he would be ready to defend again around the time Haye is back. I don't think Haye or Briggs will want any tune up fights with the clock ticking.

Briggs gets his pay day he's been chasing for all this time and a crack at Haye,assuming Briggs doesn't take Haye out in the first four rounds that I predict he will try too. Haye gets a version of the world title which is more of a key to unlocking one of two fights he's wanted. Madatory for Klitschko rematch, or maybe the biggest domestic heavyweight fight ever against Joshua, and also gets the chance to become heavy weight champion like he always said he would become again........ then he can sail off into the Miami sunset and we can all move on. :lol:
ewenhay
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by ewenhay »

I don't think there is a realistic way back for Haye now unless one of the champions give him a shot and he is desperate enough to take it.. Most people know he's got nothing left so the gravy train is over.

He would never have lost to Bellew at any point in his first incarnation. I don't see there being that big a demand for a rematch now.
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Post by Enlightened-One »

David Haye is a big money fighter that has a business partnership with Richard Schaefer. Sky Sports and Eddie Hearn are both well aware of the commercial value his name carries.

So if Tony Bellew declines the rematch, then this won’t have a significant effect on his career.

Sky Sports and Eddie Hearn will both want to assist in rebuilding David Haye’s career, because his name is big enough to warrant another 90K Wembley Stadium-filling PPV event against Anthony Joshua.
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by ewenhay »

I think that point has passed though. There's nothing left to try and rebuild. People won't entertain another comeback against lowly ranked fighters, that one has been milked already.
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by Ossyrules »

He should beat bellew in a return and then retire imo. And I'm a David Haye fan
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Post by ewenhay »

That might be the only option left. I don't see it being as big as the first fight though, people know now that David has nothing left. Tony doesn't have an awful lot left either.
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Post by forestbox »

He should give de Mori a rematch
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Post by Syntax Error »

forestbox wrote:He should give de Mori a rematch
:oo :oo

Oh yes, there's some unfinished business there.

Haye Day III: The Revenge of Mark De Mori! :TU:
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Post by forestbox »

Or the cobra lol
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Post by northern »

It depends really what he want's to achieve and the time span he want's to do it in now, after a lengthy break from boxing due to injury and then the come back with two glorified warm up bouts before Bellew, he's done all he can to re-establish his name in boxing and for the most part he has got people talking again.

He won't be far from a world title fight when you consider the Joshua Vs Klitschko fight this month and the Briggs Vs Oquendo fight later this year.
With either boxer winning the first you have an all British heavyweight fight that would sell or a re-match which would sell. The second you have Haye either trying to reclaim his former title or two boxers in Briggs and Haye who can really talk up a fight.

In the mean time he has a variety of options he can go for, the winner of Cornish and Sexton for the British Title, or Christian Hammer who holds the WBO European title that Haye could add to his collection, Let him talk up reclaiming british pride after Hammer got the KO win over Price in his last fight and it's a good test for him to push back into the world level to name a couple of options.
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by TheGingerBomber »

If there was any way possible to get Haye vs Briggs on Sky, Hearn should be all over it.

If it isn't a bridge too far financially of course! Wouldn't pay PPV for that shit unless the card was full of worthy fights.
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Post by northern »

TheGingerBomber wrote:If there was any way possible to get Haye vs Briggs on Sky, Hearn should be all over it.

If it isn't a bridge too far financially of course! Wouldn't pay PPV for that poo unless the card was full of worthy fights.
The funny thing is I think they probably could get this onto Sky, not pay per view but onto Sky sports or allegedly anyway.
Let's be honest when we say talk about these two fighting, it shouldn't happen, but it might because both men can sell a fight very, VERY well.

Examples:
When you look at David Haye and how he sold the 'Haye'Day fights on British channel Dave. They were perfect mismatches, De Mori wasn't ready for anything near Haye's ability and Gjergjaj was in the same boat. But how many millions tuned in to see it?

Briggs on the other hand, can be the same in so many ways, you can't help but like his enthusiasm and self belief and buy into it, the way he hounded Klitschko and Haye for ages, it was funny, got everyone talking and even a few people actually backing him if they did fight.
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by DannyMCR »

Other then the Bellew rematch which gains him no ground in a world title fight fight, Haye is done.

Murray fighting DeGale would open more doors. I hope Haye never fights again, going beyond that I only want him unify against Usky, IF he can do it
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Post by Oiky »

a bellew rematch is about all he deserves

no interest in him other than that

maybe him and khan can ride off into the sunset and talk bullsh*t together
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by greg »

..he's what? 36 years old und counting? 5 fights with 2 losses over the last 6 years..I don't see him becoming a major force in the HW division..
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Post by straali »

I'd like to see Haye v Fraudley II as the Hayefaker has almost entered the farce saloon previously the domain of Harrison
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Post by Lackeos »

There are lots of fighters Haye could theoretically beat in a path back to the top 10 and above. It is not nearly limited to Bellew and Briggs. However, he is 36, quite declined due to his absence from 2012 to 2016, and he cancels or loses half of his fights due to injury. One way or another, Haye seems to have no idea how to keep his body healthy. If he was 32 and consistently healthy, it would be the easiest thing in the world to craft a path to the top for him. He could fight any combination of Dimitrenko, Molina, Scott, and Breazeale in whatever order; and then start looking for a somewhat better fight against someone like Hammer, Takam, Duhaupas, or Whyte. He does that, and he would be back in the top 7 with minimal difficulty.
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Post by ewenhay »

Yeah but he is 36, not 32, as you say. Long periods of inactivity, multiple injury issues, rapidly declining physically. There's nothing left. And if he comes back everyone knows it now. It wouldn't end well. I can see a Bellew rematch as a possibility but I don't think it does as well as the first fight.
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straali wrote:I'd like to see Haye v Fraudley II as the Hayefaker has almost entered the farce saloon previously the domain of Harrison
It would be interesting to see if Parcel Force could surpass his punch total from the first fight & and land TWO punches in the rematch! :TU:
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Haye is finished as a force at heavyweight. Too many physical problems, too much inactivity.

He could probably beat Bellew in a rematch if he can come in somewhere without a major injury, but at heavy, he's just going to be a name for younger fighters.

I'd pick Wilder to beat him now I think, and no way would I have said the same of a prime Haye.
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Post by chinarich »

Haye talks a great fight, but essentially he's a snake oil salesman these days. I can see him talking up one final run at a version of the heavyweight crown - probably the WBA version - and Joe Public buying it. Aside from a Bellew rematch I see him manoeuvring his way into a fight with the Briggs / Oquendo winner courtesy of a victory over someone obscure ranked in their top 15...
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by Noxy »

I don't think David's body can take it anymore. Look at all the injuries he's had. He says he's coming back and good luck to him, but if he does come back and look good, then what? Hamstring, bicep, shoulder...?
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by Syntax Error »

David Haye is yesterday's news.

He's always talked big but as an HW, has mostly taken the path of least resistance.

He should fight Bellew again & he'll probably blag his way to a 'title' shot against Briggs or Oquendo (again, the path of least resistance), but he will get bounced if he takes on the really big boys in the division.

His body is broken down & he has a ready made excuse for every defeat or sub par performance from now on.
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by gilgamesh »

I hope there isn't a route back for David. If he never makes another comeback, good riddance.
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Re: David Haye's route back?

Post by world ranked »

gilgamesh wrote:I hope there isn't a route back for David. If he never makes another comeback, good riddance.
Bellew fight or a heavyweight title fight is the only route to be relevant
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