Betting thread

[boxingknockout]

boxingknockout, come on, you posted about your lock in David Haye losing after you added him to your parlays and busting them all and then in the next post you're advising people to stuff Floyd in all their parlays in a bout that may never even happen! I think the Floyd vs McGregor lines are silly- Conor should be more like +1500 and as a big MMA fan I'd probably throw a flyer on him if he was. But I wouldn't touch the heavily juiced Floyd side of this weird matchup either, in a parlay or otherwise!

For you guys on Khurtsidze, he's a skilled fighter and the odds are good at slight + money, but are you not worried about a diminutive 5'4" middleweight against a 6' 0" middleweight?

I know mate; but Haye was injured before and during the fight and you can't factor that in. My reasons for Mayweather are very sound in my opinion. How can a guy who hasn't boxed pro, and whose hands' game only makes up 1/10th of his arsenal possibly have a chance against one of the best fighters (even though I hate him) in recent years.... anyway it might well not happen anyway...(not that it matters - the bet is not voided if it doesn't take place, it's just taken out of the equation.)

As for Khurdzitze - good tip and I'm on it!

[JimGunn]

boxingknockout, in fairness, there was a lot of chatter and rumors online about Haye being injured before the bout and Bellew was trolling him at the press conferences repeatedly asking him why he had been traveling to Germany and if he was fit and healthy and not to make any excuses. As a fan we can never know the truth of it or how bad an injury he might have had going into the bout if at all from mild to moderate to severe, but I definitely took the possibility into consideration when betting Bellew at +550.

[boxingknockout]

boxingknockout, in fairness, there was a lot of chatter and rumors online about Haye being injured before the bout and Bellew was trolling him at the press conferences repeatedly asking him why he had been traveling to Germany and if he was fit and healthy and not to make any excuses. As a fan we can never know the truth of it or how bad an injury he might have had going into the bout if at all from mild to moderate to severe, but I definitely took the possibility into consideration when betting Bellew at +550.

Yes that's true and well read.... there is so much hype, hyperbole and melodrama around big fights, especially in this age of Internet, that I usually pay no attention.

I remember years ago when Iran Barkley fought Roy Jones, the way he was talking and how angry he was, I thought he would be impossible to beat.... and then Jones dominated and stopped him. So I have always made a point of ignoring gossip unless it comes from an industry source off the media scale.

[crusader]

Khurt beat up 6'0" prospect Antoine Douglas, and fought very closely with 5'11 Ndam, who is world class or close to it. He is very used to dealing with big height differences and Langford looked like shitt against Sheedy.

Khurt has been inactive though, and he's getting up there (not height wise!).

[boxingknockout]

Khurt beat up 6'0" prospect Antoine Douglas, and fought very closely with 5'11 Ndam, who is world class or close to it. He is very used to dealing with big height differences and Langford looked like shitt against Sheedy.

Khurt has been inactive though, and he's getting up there (not height wise!).

Good research

[JimGunn]

Samuel Clarkson (+1161) vs Dmitriy Bivol $15.00 for $174.15
Carlos Soto (+1250) vs Malik Hawkins ~$12.00 for ~$150.00

Julius Indongo (+175) vs Ricky Burns $100.00 for $175.00
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+520) ~$26.40 for ~$137.28
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+540) ~$30.00 for ~$162.00
Julius Indongo/Ricky Burns: Both Fighters Be Knocked Down (+900) ~$12.00 for ~$108.00

Charlie Edwards wins in round 10-12 (+1000) vs Iain Butcher ~$12.00 for ~$120.00
Charlie Edwards Points Victory Or Technical Decision (-110) vs Iain Butcher ~$66.00 for ~$60.00

Paul Parker (+2000) vs Sullivan Barrera $25.00 for $500.00

[boxingknockout]

Samuel Clarkson (+1161) vs Dmitriy Bivol $15.00 for $174.15
Carlos Soto (+1250) vs Malik Hawkins ~$12.00 for ~$150.00

Julius Indongo (+175) vs Ricky Burns $100.00 for $175.00
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+520) ~$26.40 for ~$137.28
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+540) ~$30.00 for ~$162.00
Julius Indongo/Ricky Burns: Both Fighters Be Knocked Down (+900) ~$12.00 for ~$108.00

Charlie Edwards wins in round 10-12 (+1000) vs Iain Butcher ~$12.00 for ~$120.00
Charlie Edwards Points Victory Or Technical Decision (-110) vs Iain Butcher ~$66.00 for ~$60.00

Paul Parker (+2000) vs Sullivan Barrera $25.00 for $500.00

Sweet.... let's do this thing!

[cutsman]

11/10 Khurtsidze against Langford, with Paddy Power, I'm on but not sure how long it will be there

On it.

Had to be done, it's the wrong price, it's not impossible for Langford to be better than I think in this fight but the Georgian looks all wrong for him to me and I fully expected Khurtsidze to be a decent fav to be honest.

Now 5/6

[boxingknockout]

Samuel Clarkson (+1161) vs Dmitriy Bivol $15.00 for $174.15
Carlos Soto (+1250) vs Malik Hawkins ~$12.00 for ~$150.00

Julius Indongo (+175) vs Ricky Burns $100.00 for $175.00
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+520) ~$26.40 for ~$137.28
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+540) ~$30.00 for ~$162.00
Julius Indongo/Ricky Burns: Both Fighters Be Knocked Down (+900) ~$12.00 for ~$108.00

Charlie Edwards wins in round 10-12 (+1000) vs Iain Butcher ~$12.00 for ~$120.00
Charlie Edwards Points Victory Or Technical Decision (-110) vs Iain Butcher ~$66.00 for ~$60.00

Paul Parker (+2000) vs Sullivan Barrera $25.00 for $500.00

Sweet.... let's do this thing!

Clarkson and Soto let us down already

[boxingknockout]

As my betting theme this week seems to be long odds, I also put a fiver on Laurence Okolie round 3 at 10-1

I initially thought Okolie Ko 1 but there's no value - 2-1 on is best price.

Looking at his opponent (a long name full of consonants I can't be bothered to reproduce or say ) he is pretty durable and experienced.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/147746

David Allen banged him in a round last fight, but he had a near 50 pound weight advantage! Craig Kennedy took him out in 3, but he has been the distance against Ola Ofalabi, Rakhim Chakiev twice, unbeaten SA heavyweight prospect Ilunga (who had 50 pounds advantage), Glowacki, Herbie Hide, Troy Ross, Frankel and more prospects.

Hmmmm maybe I should hedge a points win as well....

[ShadrachSimmo]

As my betting theme this week seems to be long odds, I also put a fiver on Laurence Okolie round 3 at 10-1

I initially thought Okolie Ko 1 but there's no value - 2-1 on is best price.

Looking at his opponent (a long name full of consonants I can't be bothered to reproduce or say ) he is pretty durable and experienced.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/147746

David Allen banged him in a round last fight, but he had a near 50 pound weight advantage! Craig Kennedy took him out in 3, but he has been the distance against Ola Ofalabi, Rakhim Chakiev twice, unbeaten SA heavyweight prospect Ilunga (who had 50 pounds advantage), Glowacki, Herbie Hide, Troy Ross, Frankel and more prospects.

Hmmmm maybe I should hedge a points win as well....

1/3 to win in 1 with PP, shocking.

[boxingknockout]

As my betting theme this week seems to be long odds, I also put a fiver on Laurence Okolie round 3 at 10-1

I initially thought Okolie Ko 1 but there's no value - 2-1 on is best price.

Looking at his opponent (a long name full of consonants I can't be bothered to reproduce or say ) he is pretty durable and experienced.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/147746

David Allen banged him in a round last fight, but he had a near 50 pound weight advantage! Craig Kennedy took him out in 3, but he has been the distance against Ola Ofalabi, Rakhim Chakiev twice, unbeaten SA heavyweight prospect Ilunga (who had 50 pounds advantage), Glowacki, Herbie Hide, Troy Ross, Frankel and more prospects.

Hmmmm maybe I should hedge a points win as well....

1/3 to win in 1 with PP, shocking.

Yeah avoid that price! (Even though it may happen...)

The man's a durable, experienced journeyman who has gone the distance, including 6 and 8 rounds against world class fighters....

He may be a bit old and shot, we'll see but unless he actually tries to win, he should be able to fiddle past the 1st round....

Still haven't decided on the hedge....

[ThereByTheGrace]

Ok here is my yankee

Cardle fight not to go distance
edwards points
burns fight not to go distance
Kelly points

[arlovski]

boxingknockout, come on, you posted about your lock in David Haye losing after you added him to your parlays and busting them all and then in the next post you're advising people to stuff Floyd in all their parlays in a bout that may never even happen! I think the Floyd vs McGregor lines are silly- Conor should be more like +1500 and as a big MMA fan I'd probably throw a flyer on him if he was. But I wouldn't touch the heavily juiced Floyd side of this weird matchup either, in a parlay or otherwise!

For you guys on Khurtsidze, he's a skilled fighter and the odds are good at slight + money, but are you not worried about a diminutive 5'4" middleweight against a 6' 0" middleweight?

Seen Khurtsidze bash up decent quality supermiddles+light heavys in sparring when I was in New York.
He can fight no doubt, height won't be an issue

[boxingknockout]

As my betting theme this week seems to be long odds, I also put a fiver on Laurence Okolie round 3 at 10-1

I initially thought Okolie Ko 1 but there's no value - 2-1 on is best price.

Looking at his opponent (a long name full of consonants I can't be bothered to reproduce or say ) he is pretty durable and experienced.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/147746

David Allen banged him in a round last fight, but he had a near 50 pound weight advantage! Craig Kennedy took him out in 3, but he has been the distance against Ola Ofalabi, Rakhim Chakiev twice, unbeaten SA heavyweight prospect Ilunga (who had 50 pounds advantage), Glowacki, Herbie Hide, Troy Ross, Frankel and more prospects.

Hmmmm maybe I should hedge a points win as well....

1/3 to win in 1 with PP, shocking.

Yeah avoid that price! (Even though it may happen...)

The man's a durable, experienced journeyman who has gone the distance, including 6 and 8 rounds against world class fighters....

He may be a bit old and shot, we'll see but unless he actually tries to win, he should be able to fiddle past the 1st round....

Still haven't decided on the hedge....

Lord, I think I'm going to give up posting my bets; I must be jinxed!

I doubt I will win a single bet this weekend... sometimes you feel it in your belly, even though your logic is decent.... this is one of those times I think

[boxingknockout]

I looked at that, and haven't seen Barrett but I just don't see anything in his record to suggest he can spring an upset. He has some ugly early results too.

Have you seen him fight?

Yeah saw him live a few times. His last 3 contests have been his best stopping Adam Kettleborough, virtually shutting out the dangerous banger Marcus Ffrench and winning convincingly over ten against Kev Hooper. Admittedly Cardle did a number on Hooper stopping him Barrett has the tools to make it a hard night for him. Steffy Bull is quietly confident too. Cardle is rightfully the favorite and he should win but 6/1 is wide.

Thanks - I'm keeping away though (again famous last words!)

Great tip! Dammit.... it looks like this week I can't tip my hat... although if you went against my choices you'd be in the money!
I hope someone restores my pride!

[GlobalBox]

7/1 Burns stoppage with Skybet on a price boost, I know he is not a big puncher but the engine is still there and we know little about Indongo tbh, on a line through the value bets, I have availed myself of some.

[Deno1986]

7/1 Burns stoppage with Skybet on a price boost, I know he is not a big puncher but the engine is still there and we know little about Indongo tbh, on a line through the value bets, I have availed myself of some.

I went with same. I've a feeling Indongo might go gung ho from the start and tire himself out - hopefully leading to him being stopped in someway.

[The Insider]

Yeah saw him live a few times. His last 3 contests have been his best stopping Adam Kettleborough, virtually shutting out the dangerous banger Marcus Ffrench and winning convincingly over ten against Kev Hooper. Admittedly Cardle did a number on Hooper stopping him Barrett has the tools to make it a hard night for him. Steffy Bull is quietly confident too. Cardle is rightfully the favorite and he should win but 6/1 is wide.

Thanks - I'm keeping away though (again famous last words!)

Great tip! Dammit.... it looks like this week I can't tip my hat... although if you went against my choices you'd be in the money!
I hope someone restores my pride!

Thanks. Another weekend of profit.

[boxingknockout]

Thanks - I'm keeping away though (again famous last words!)

Great tip! Dammit.... it looks like this week I can't tip my hat... although if you went against my choices you'd be in the money!
I hope someone restores my pride!

Thanks. Another weekend of profit.

I try my best... I just want to break even

[boxingknockout]

Ok taking a leaf outta JimGunn's book and laying it down in detail. Remember - the key to me is value, not what you think will happen (famous last words :-))

So some underdog betting for weekend. I have looked at records, ages, experience and these are the bets I feel have some value:

Carlos Soto over Malik Hawkins - 13.0. Soto is a tough Mexican.Hawkins somewhat untested. Think odds should be 6.0 or 5.0 not this high.

Clarkson over Bivol - 9.0. Expect Bivol to win but clarkson will provide tough opposition. I think this fight should be priced at 5.0

Zakaria Attou over Beausiere - 5.0. Attou very tough and experienced, Beausiere toughest fight. Neither punchers. I think Attou should be 2.75 underdog not this long.

Paul Parker over Sullivan Barrera - 15.0. Long shot but whilst both had opposite results against Shabbrinsky, Parker floored him twice and is dangerous.... again, 15.0 is too long - I reckon true odds should be 7.5 or 8.0.

Butcher over Edwards - caught this at 11.0, great value **no longer available**. Price is now 4.0. Thanks to the board for this tip, stay away at these odds.

Ps I put fiver on each result, except tenner on Attou....

Pps I'm more scared of Letting people down than losing the money, wish me luck! One win brings a profit even if small (I think)

Attou win - now I'm in profit!

[boxingknockout]

Ok taking a leaf outta JimGunn's book and laying it down in detail. Remember - the key to me is value, not what you think will happen (famous last words :-))

So some underdog betting for weekend. I have looked at records, ages, experience and these are the bets I feel have some value:

Carlos Soto over Malik Hawkins - 13.0. Soto is a tough Mexican.Hawkins somewhat untested. Think odds should be 6.0 or 5.0 not this high.

Clarkson over Bivol - 9.0. Expect Bivol to win but clarkson will provide tough opposition. I think this fight should be priced at 5.0

Zakaria Attou over Beausiere - 5.0. Attou very tough and experienced, Beausiere toughest fight. Neither punchers. I think Attou should be 2.75 underdog not this long.

Paul Parker over Sullivan Barrera - 15.0. Long shot but whilst both had opposite results against Shabbrinsky, Parker floored him twice and is dangerous.... again, 15.0 is too long - I reckon true odds should be 7.5 or 8.0.

Butcher over Edwards - caught this at 11.0, great value **no longer available**. Price is now 4.0. Thanks to the board for this tip, stay away at these odds.

Ps I put fiver on each result, except tenner on Attou....

Pps I'm more scared of Letting people down than losing the money, wish me luck! One win brings a profit even if small (I think)

Attou win - now I'm in profit!

Now indongo win - £25 at 2.75...... profit good! http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... o#p4612610

Redemption is good!

[JimGunn]

Great performance by Indongo against Burns in enemy territory. That couldn't have went better for yet another upset in a world title fight. Year of the Underdog 2017 continues to be very profitable.

Samuel Clarkson (+1161) vs Dmitriy Bivol $15.00 for $174.15= -$15.00
Carlos Soto (+1250) vs Malik Hawkins ~$12.00 for ~$150.00= -~$12.00

Julius Indongo (+175) vs Ricky Burns $100.00 for $175.00= $175.00
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+520) ~$26.40 for ~$137.28= ~$137.28
Julius Indongo Points Victory Or Technical Decision (+540) ~$30.00 for ~$162.00= ~$162.00
Julius Indongo/Ricky Burns: Both Fighters Be Knocked Down (+900) ~$12.00 for ~$108.00= -~$12.00

Charlie Edwards wins in round 10-12 (+1000) vs Iain Butcher ~$12.00 for ~$120.00= -~$12.00
Charlie Edwards Points Victory Or Technical Decision (-110) vs Iain Butcher ~$66.00 for ~$60.00= ~$60.00

Paul Parker (+2000) vs Sullivan Barrera $25.00 for $500.00= -$25.00
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Total Profit= $458.28

[The Insider]

Sounds like boxingknockout got bitten by the underdog bug, he he. It's addictive, I tell you! Based strictly on BoxRec capping, I see undefeated Hawkins has less experience than the never beaten Soto and only faced one opponent with a winning record, so stabbing at the value play there. It's kind of odd to me at least that in the ShowBox main event Friday night two relatively little known boxers in Clarkson vs Bivol are competing for a WBA world LHW belt, even an interim one. Bigger weight class fighters have more punching power so more chance for puncher's chance upsets imho. And speaking of power, I recall watching Parker dropped LHW contender Shabranskyy twice in round one in a TKO loss and dropped his last opponent en route to a decision win, so I like the value on the dog Saturday evening on HBO Latino here in the U.S.. I personally put small bets on these dogs so far:

Clarkson over Bivol at +1161
Soto over Hawkins at +1250
Parker over Sullivan at +2000.

I'm sure I'll have a couple more plays for the weekend, so I'll post my bets in detail like usual by tomorrow afternoon.

I know you like the dogs so im surprised you haven't spotted Robbie Barrett @ 6/1 vs Cardle. He's in with a real shout. Odds of 6/1 in what I think is a 60/40 in favour of Cardle are way off in my book. Definitely worth a nibble.

[boxingknockout]

Ok taking a leaf outta JimGunn's book and laying it down in detail. Remember - the key to me is value, not what you think will happen (famous last words :-))

So some underdog betting for weekend. I have looked at records, ages, experience and these are the bets I feel have some value:

Carlos Soto over Malik Hawkins - 13.0. Soto is a tough Mexican.Hawkins somewhat untested. Think odds should be 6.0 or 5.0 not this high.

Clarkson over Bivol - 9.0. Expect Bivol to win but clarkson will provide tough opposition. I think this fight should be priced at 5.0

Zakaria Attou over Beausiere - 5.0. Attou very tough and experienced, Beausiere toughest fight. Neither punchers. I think Attou should be 2.75 underdog not this long.

Paul Parker over Sullivan Barrera - 15.0. Long shot but whilst both had opposite results against Shabbrinsky, Parker floored him twice and is dangerous.... again, 15.0 is too long - I reckon true odds should be 7.5 or 8.0.

Butcher over Edwards - caught this at 11.0, great value **no longer available**. Price is now 4.0. Thanks to the board for this tip, stay away at these odds.

Ps I put fiver on each result, except tenner on Attou....

Pps I'm more scared of Letting people down than losing the money, wish me luck! One win brings a profit even if small (I think)

Good luck keep us posted

Ok time to stand up and be counted Jimgunn stylee recap:

£25 Indongo over Burns 2.75 = £45.50 profit
£5 Okolie pts 8.0 = £5 loss
£5 Okolie Ko 3 11.0 = £5 loss
£5 clarkson over Bivol= £5 loss
£5 Parker over Barrera= £5 loss
£5 Soto over Hawkins= £5 loss
£7.50 butcher over Edwards = £7.50 loss
£10 Zakaria Attou over Beausiere - 5.0 = £40 profit

Total = £53 profit

Now that's not a life changing sum but it's a return of + 78.5% on investment.

Please note - I am out of work at the moment so can only afford small wagers. If I was working I would probably bet 5 times the stake.

Happy Easter boxing bettors!