Andre Ward refused to fight Sergey Kovalev with neutral judges

[boxing_rocks]

You are proving his point. Nationality doesn't matter.

It sure does. When your countryman fights a Russian "villain", who will you naturally be rooting for?

Villain? Kovalev is more beloved than Ward ever was. If anyone is a villain, it's Ward.

Beloved by who? If you mean majority of hardcore fans, then yes. He is clearly not beloved by judges.

[Blodhemn]

What do you expect from Son of Judges? Par for the course. Also once again Duva displays her complete lack of negotiation skills. If she can't do her job then she needs to stop crying in public about it.

[Tarkus]

It is really hard to keep integrity if you turn on TV or read news from major sources. Some very smart people work on indoctrinating you everywhere in the world.

You are proving his point. Nationality doesn't matter.

It sure does. When your countryman fights a Russian "villain", who will you naturally be rooting for?

I doint know if you are proposing to import judges from Mars. Because on Earth there is no place left where Russia isnt perceived as a villain by now.

[boxing_rocks]

You are proving his point. Nationality doesn't matter.

It sure does. When your countryman fights a Russian "villain", who will you naturally be rooting for?

I doint know if you are proposing to import judges from Mars. Because on Earth there is no place left where Russia isnt perceived as a villain by now.

At least they could have one judge from Europe and one from Latin America.

[Oiky]

kovalev going to starch ward this time

[world ranked]

kovalev going to starch ward this time

Keep hope alive Just like he suppose to do in the first fight.

[Enlightened-One]

We know for certain that Sergey Kovalev has previously engaged in at least TWENTY TWO bouts on US shores that used a trio of American judges to score each fight. Here’s a list of them:
• Andre Ward
• Nadjib Mohammedi
• Bernard Hopkins
• Blake Caparello
• Cedric Agnew
• Cornelius White
• Gabriel Campillo
• Lionell Thompson
• Darnell Boone (twice)
• Grover Young
• Terrance Woods
• Julius Fogle
• William Johnson
• Dallas Vargas
• Kia Daniels
• Harley Kilfian
• Micky Stackhouse
• Ayodeji Fadeyi
• Michael Birthmark
• Darryl Johnson
• Daniel Chavez

Note: There’s a good chance that purely-American judges scored some of his other bouts, but BoxRec doesn’t have this recorded for a few of his fights.

After reviewing the other fighters from Eastern European/Communist countries within Kathy Duva’s Main Events stable, I discovered that this practice is commonplace and has recently been used for the following boxers: Tomasz Adamek, Vyacheslav Glaszkov, Sullivan Barrera, Vasily Lepikhin, Arif Magomedov, Madiyar Ashkeyev, Enriko Gogokhia and Dmitry Mikhaylenko.

Kathy Duva is talking pure utter búllshít!

End of thread! There is nothing else to discuss!

[Oiky]

kovalev going to starch ward this time

Keep hope alive Just like he suppose to do in the first fight.

i got my opinion you got yours

kovalev knows what he's got to do this time

[world ranked]

kovalev going to starch ward this time

Keep hope alive Just like he suppose to do in the first fight.

i got my opinion you got yours

kovalev knows what he's got to do this time

And he didn't know that the first time

[Oiky]

Keep hope alive Just like he suppose to do in the first fight.

i got my opinion you got yours

kovalev knows what he's got to do this time

And he didn't know that the first time

[world ranked]

We know for certain that Sergey Kovalev has previously engaged in at least TWENTY TWO bouts on US shores that used a trio of American judges to score each fight. Here’s a list of them:
• Andre Ward
• Nadjib Mohammedi
• Bernard Hopkins
• Blake Caparello
• Cedric Agnew
• Cornelius White
• Gabriel Campillo
• Lionell Thompson
• Darnell Boone (twice)
• Grover Young
• Terrance Woods
• Julius Fogle
• William Johnson
• Dallas Vargas
• Kia Daniels
• Harley Kilfian
• Micky Stackhouse
• Ayodeji Fadeyi
• Michael Birthmark
• Darryl Johnson
• Daniel Chavez

Note: There’s a good chance that purely-American judges scored some of his other bouts, but BoxRec doesn’t have this recorded for a few of his fights.

After reviewing the other fighters from Eastern European/Communist countries within Kathy Duva’s Main Events stable, I discovered that this practice is commonplace and has recently been used for the following boxers: Tomasz Adamek, Vyacheslav Glaszkov, Sullivan Barrera, Vasily Lepikhin, Arif Magomedov, Madiyar Ashkeyev, Enriko Gogokhia and Dmitry Mikhaylenko.

Kathy Duva is talking pure utter búllshít!

End of thread! There is nothing else to discuss!

fair point

[boxing_rocks]

Keep hope alive Just like he suppose to do in the first fight.

i got my opinion you got yours

kovalev knows what he's got to do this time

And he didn't know that the first time

It is called experience.

[world ranked]

i got my opinion you got yours

kovalev knows what he's got to do this time

And he didn't know that the first time

It is called experience.

If it was called experience he should have known it was going to be difficult to stop a guy who's never been, but it didn't stop him from calling the KO in the 1st fight. So according to Kovalev and his lovers he will make the right adjustment but Ward will stay the same come on now get real. We want to be so right all the time we only look at one side of the fight like Kovalev is the only guy in the fight.

[Enlightened-One]

At least they could have one judge from Europe and one from Latin America.

We know for certain that Sergey Kovalev has previously engaged in at least TWENTY TWO bouts on US shores that used a trio of American judges to score each fight. Here’s a list of them:
• Andre Ward
• Nadjib Mohammedi
• Bernard Hopkins
• Blake Caparello
• Cedric Agnew
• Cornelius White
• Gabriel Campillo
• Lionell Thompson
• Darnell Boone (twice)
• Grover Young
• Terrance Woods
• Julius Fogle
• William Johnson
• Dallas Vargas
• Kia Daniels
• Harley Kilfian
• Micky Stackhouse
• Ayodeji Fadeyi
• Michael Birthmark
• Darryl Johnson
• Daniel Chavez

Note: There’s a good chance that purely-American judges scored some of his other bouts, but BoxRec doesn’t have this recorded for a few of his fights.

After reviewing the other fighters from Eastern European/Communist countries within Kathy Duva’s Main Events stable, I discovered that this practice is commonplace and has recently been used for the following boxers: Tomasz Adamek, Vyacheslav Glaszkov, Sullivan Barrera, Vasily Lepikhin, Arif Magomedov, Madiyar Ashkeyev, Enriko Gogokhia and Dmitry Mikhaylenko.

Kathy Duva is talking pure utter búllshít!

[BitPlayer]

This bullshit just makes me want Ward to win.

Accusations that unbelievable need to be backed up.

[boxing_rocks]

What do previous fights have to do with anything? Judges only matter when an outcome is not 100% obvious. Kova didn't care about judges before, but having been screwed by them once, they learned a lesson.

[Oiky]

And he didn't know that the first time

It is called experience.

If it was called experience he should have known it was going to be difficult to stop a guy who's never been, but it didn't stop him from calling the KO in the 1st fight. So according to Kovalev and his lovers he will make the right adjustment but Ward will stay the same come on now get real. We want to be so right all the time we only look at one side of the fight like Kovalev is the only guy in the fight.

so on this thread your saying that kovalev should have known what to do..

but in another thread you are saying billyjoe vs eubank jnr was so close that its silly to say billy joe even beat eubank jnr .. even going as far to say as eubank jnr is world class? why not in the other thread say "eubank jnr should have known to KO billy joe he said he would loads in the run up"

[boxing_rocks]

And he didn't know that the first time

It is called experience.

If it was called experience he should have known it was going to be difficult to stop a guy who's never been, but it didn't stop him from calling the KO in the 1st fight. So according to Kovalev and his lovers he will make the right adjustment but Ward will stay the same come on now get real. We want to be so right all the time we only look at one side of the fight like Kovalev is the only guy in the fight.

Kova wasnt going for a KO the first time. He was coasting expecting to get a decision he deserved. Now he knows that he has even less chances to get a decision, as he doesn't have belts anymore.

[world ranked]

It is called experience.

If it was called experience he should have known it was going to be difficult to stop a guy who's never been, but it didn't stop him from calling the KO in the 1st fight. So according to Kovalev and his lovers he will make the right adjustment but Ward will stay the same come on now get real. We want to be so right all the time we only look at one side of the fight like Kovalev is the only guy in the fight.

Kova wasnt going for a KO the first time. He was coasting expecting to get a decision he deserved. Now he knows that he has even less chances to get a decision, as he doesn't have belts anymore.

he didn't go for the knockout when he knocked the guy down.Oh he knocked him down by accident.

[world ranked]

It is called experience.

If it was called experience he should have known it was going to be difficult to stop a guy who's never been, but it didn't stop him from calling the KO in the 1st fight. So according to Kovalev and his lovers he will make the right adjustment but Ward will stay the same come on now get real. We want to be so right all the time we only look at one side of the fight like Kovalev is the only guy in the fight.

so on this thread your saying that kovalev should have known what to do..

but in another thread you are saying billyjoe vs eubank jnr was so close that its silly to say billy joe even beat eubank jnr .. even going as far to say as eubank jnr is world class? why not in the other thread say "eubank jnr should have known to KO billy joe he said he would loads in the run up"

The threads has nothing to do with each other. One is about levels of fighters this thread is about Kovalev so called "new strategy" to this time KO Ward.

[boxing_rocks]

If it was called experience he should have known it was going to be difficult to stop a guy who's never been, but it didn't stop him from calling the KO in the 1st fight. So according to Kovalev and his lovers he will make the right adjustment but Ward will stay the same come on now get real. We want to be so right all the time we only look at one side of the fight like Kovalev is the only guy in the fight.

Kova wasnt going for a KO the first time. He was coasting expecting to get a decision he deserved. Now he knows that he has even less chances to get a decision, as he doesn't have belts anymore.

he didn't go for the knockout when he knocked the guy down.Oh he knocked him down by accident.

He just landed a decent punch. He can knock you down with a jab.

[world ranked]

Kova wasnt going for a KO the first time. He was coasting expecting to get a decision he deserved. Now he knows that he has even less chances to get a decision, as he doesn't have belts anymore.

he didn't go for the knockout when he knocked the guy down.Oh he knocked him down by accident.

He just landed a decent punch. He can knock you down with a jab.

Yeah and he had no attention of following that up. He wanted to cruse to decision something he rarely do. Make no sense

[boxing_rocks]

he didn't go for the knockout when he knocked the guy down.Oh he knocked him down by accident.

He just landed a decent punch. He can knock you down with a jab.

Yeah and he had no attention of following that up. He wanted to cruse to decision something he rarely do. Make no sense

Of course he tried to finish Ward in the same round, but couldn't. Maybe he was still too cautious. As he said, he over-thought the first fight.

That fight originally followed the scenario of the Hopkins one, so he made a mistake coasting like he did against Hopkins.

[Covfefe]

He just landed a decent punch. He can knock you down with a jab.

Yeah and he had no attention of following that up. He wanted to cruse to decision something he rarely do. Make no sense

Of course he tried to finish Ward in the same round, but couldn't. Maybe he was still too cautious. As he said, he over-thought the first fight.

That fight originally followed the scenario of the Hopkins one, so he made a mistake coasting like he did against Hopkins.

So he coasted and it had nothing to do with Ward?

[world ranked]

Yeah and he had no attention of following that up. He wanted to cruse to decision something he rarely do. Make no sense

Of course he tried to finish Ward in the same round, but couldn't. Maybe he was still too cautious. As he said, he over-thought the first fight.

That fight originally followed the scenario of the Hopkins one, so he made a mistake coasting like he did against Hopkins.

So he coasted and it had nothing to do with Ward?

Of course not its all Kovalev to do everything differently this time and it doesn't matter its another guy in the ring lol.