world ranked wrote:
A glorified gym fighter doesn't fight on even level with a world champion. afraid and a boxer doesn't make sense together. You might not like him he's a world class fighter.
how is he world class? He beat a novice for a BS title, he's fought one world class fighter and he lost. He just makes a lot of noise calling out every fighter who is in the headlines for publicity, pair of jokers.
He fought on even terms with the guy you claim is world class pretty simple. He wasn't outclassed in the ring he's the same talent level of BJS. Pretty simple. Yeah all the bums he fought guess what he didn't struggle with those another sign of a world class guy what did BJS do in his last fight almost lost to those same level guys Eubank dominated but BJS is world class again but Eubank isn't.
if you watch the fight properly
you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting
madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level
Nightmare Roy wrote:how is he world class? He beat a novice for a BS title, he's fought one world class fighter and he lost. He just makes a lot of noise calling out every fighter who is in the headlines for publicity, pair of jokers.
He fought on even terms with the guy you claim is world class pretty simple. He wasn't outclassed in the ring he's the same talent level of BJS. Pretty simple. Yeah all the bums he fought guess what he didn't struggle with those another sign of a world class guy what did BJS do in his last fight almost lost to those same level guys Eubank dominated but BJS is world class again but Eubank isn't.
if you watch the fight properly
you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting
madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level
Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.
world ranked wrote:
He fought on even terms with the guy you claim is world class pretty simple. He wasn't outclassed in the ring he's the same talent level of BJS. Pretty simple. Yeah all the bums he fought guess what he didn't struggle with those another sign of a world class guy what did BJS do in his last fight almost lost to those same level guys Eubank dominated but BJS is world class again but Eubank isn't.
if you watch the fight properly
you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting
madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level
Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.
eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him
you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting
madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level
Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.
eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him
ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since
he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet
You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.
world ranked wrote:
Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.
eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him
ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since
he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet
You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.
rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing
look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age
look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull
yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe
but he is still nowhere even close to being world class
Oiky wrote:
eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him
ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since
he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet
You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.
rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing
look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age
look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull
yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe
but he is still nowhere even close to being world class
world ranked wrote:
You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.
rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing
look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age
look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull
yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe
but he is still nowhere even close to being world class
So why is BJS world class.?
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
Oiky wrote:
rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing
look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age
look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull
yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe
but he is still nowhere even close to being world class
So why is BJS world class.?
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
so not because who a guy beat. I guess Resume means nothing again I should you several examples of fighters who don't have any of that and was world class guys. You can not have those things and be a world class fighter. Resumes makes a world class guy. I see why you don't understand my point.
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
so not because who a guy beat. I guess Resume means nothing again I should you several examples of fighters who don't have any of that and was world class guys. You can not have those things and be a world class fighter. Resumes makes a world class guy. I see why you don't understand my point.
records are for djs
bjs is world class
eubank isn't, simple
billyjoe would get a world class fight before jnr would, ggg or canelo could get credibility out of beating a billyjoe, but if they beat a eubank jnr it would be like bullying , swatting a fly
Oiky wrote:
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
so not because who a guy beat. I guess Resume means nothing again I should you several examples of fighters who don't have any of that and was world class guys. You can not have those things and be a world class fighter. Resumes makes a world class guy. I see why you don't understand my point.
records are for djs
bjs is world class
eubank isn't, simple
billyjoe would get a world class fight before jnr would, ggg or canelo could get credibility out of beating a billyjoe, but if they beat a eubank jnr it would be like bullying , swatting a fly
Nobody cares about BJS other than having a belt. BJS almost lost to a nobody. (really lost) but ok he lucky still have his belt. but he's the world class guy.
Oiky wrote:
rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing
look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age
look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull
yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe
but he is still nowhere even close to being world class
So why is BJS world class.?
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
Really? Are you related to BJS? You make him sound like the second coming of Ali...
I put him and Eubank Jr roughly on a par, if they fought again it would be another close affair and Jr may well shade it.
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
Really? Are you related to BJS? You make him sound like the second coming of Ali...
I put him and Eubank Jr roughly on a par, if they fought again it would be another close affair and Jr may well shade it.
What is it about this place, soon as you mention a few skills about a fighter your "making him sound" like an atg from days gone by
Had all this sh*t a few days back with Tyson fury
Be easier on here to say every boxer is sh*t except Ali and the greats
Yeah it was a close fight billyjoe underestimated Eubank and still won, don't think a second fight would be close, only thing Jnr would shade is a stencil of himself
Saunders is decent - nothing spectacular. I think Eubank lost the fight more than Saunders won it so to speak. People saying they'd make Eubank favourite in a rematch; Eubank is the favourite for the rematch. Saunders has looked dismal and been badly inactive for a long time now as well.
For all Eubank acts the twat I think he beats Kessler.
Oiky wrote:
because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have
Really? Are you related to BJS? You make him sound like the second coming of Ali...
I put him and Eubank Jr roughly on a par, if they fought again it would be another close affair and Jr may well shade it.
What is it about this place, soon as you mention a few skills about a fighter your "making him sound" like an atg from days gone by
Had all this sh*t a few days back with Tyson fury
Be easier on here to say every boxer is sh*t except Ali and the greats
Yeah it was a close fight billyjoe underestimated Eubank and still won, don't think a second fight would be close, only thing Jnr would shade is a stencil of himself
Well, one hates to be derivative but I simply thought you were over-egging the pudding with regards to Saunders' skills. Not that I'm calling him a pudding, of course...
I don't particularly rate either fighter in terms of elite level (they are both world level) but do give Eubank the edge should they rematch.
Anyway, the question was about Kessler who I don't think should be coming back, and I think Eubank beats him at this point. So would BJS, of course...
Eubank Jnrs issue isn't the level he can fight at imo, it's the out of the ring BS. The whole IBO farce, even moving to 168 (unless he can't make 160) when there's a massive challenge like ggg or Canelo at 160 doesn't make sense. Calling out x, y and z when he hasn't worked for the chance to fight them guys, a lot if out the ring shite.
But he is a good fighter. Slightly behind BJS by virtue of losing to him while Saunders also beat Andy Lee and won the wbo, so he's achieved more. Neither guys can really hold there heads high re making fights
Eubank jr is fringe world class at a push and that's a compliment considering who he has boxed. BJS is a world class operator in the ring but out of it (lifestyle wise) definitely not. The fight with Eubank jr was only as close as it was is because Saunders gasses badly in fights and Eubanks fitness is second to none. Skill wise they are light years apart. If Saunders lived the life he would beat Eubank 120-108 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.
smiling assassin wrote:Eubank jr is fringe world class at a push and that's a compliment considering who he has boxed. BJS is a world class operator in the ring but out of it (lifestyle wise) definitely not. The fight with Eubank jr was only as close as it was is because Saunders gasses badly in fights and Eubanks fitness is second to none. Skill wise they are light years apart. If Saunders lived the life he would beat Eubank 120-108 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.
This is a very sensible post
Eubank "edging" the first is likely to be the most hilarious thing I hear all week
Ossyrules wrote:Eubank Jnrs issue isn't the level he can fight at imo, it's the out of the ring BS. The whole IBO farce, even moving to 168 (unless he can't make 160) when there's a massive challenge like ggg or Canelo at 160 doesn't make sense. Calling out x, y and z when he hasn't worked for the chance to fight them guys, a lot if out the ring shite.
But he is a good fighter. Slightly behind BJS by virtue of losing to him while Saunders also beat Andy Lee and won the wbo, so he's achieved more. Neither guys can really hold there heads high re making fights
If the out of the ring stuff works out as per their business plan, Eubank could conceivably end up making more money than the rest of them put together over the next 12 months. On paper, the idea is great, but the execution may end up being third rate, eg the laughable IBO belt, inferior opponents, and PPV broadcast technical issues meaning they have to give refunds etc. But the plan itself is sound and potentially very lucrative. The ITV PPV platform is potentially massive, and Eubank's unique selling point is his surname - very marketable to the domestic ITV audience in the UK. Of course, with the dad pulling the levers behind the scenes it might all go txts up but the potential is there to make a fortune.
but he's the world class guy.
