So? He has 1 of those 8 titles. He wouldn't even have enough fights in the next two years to collect all of those belts. It seems like you're asking one question and answering another.ValMar wrote:OK, I did not read the article about Lomachenko's intention to move up at 135 soon. And, I will take a risk to be boring, but, I really consider Lomachenko invincible at 130, and almost invincible at 135 (only potential exception - M. Garcia). I can not see Linares beat Loma.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Are you confused by your own question? You have to weigh everything into it. I think there has been 1 ever? And you got 95% on a guy not even half way?ValMar wrote: I haven't read this, to be honest. Anyway, at 135, he could be defeated by M. Garcia only, I can not see another competitive opponent. I agree that judges, refs, and promoters might diminish his chances at 135....
Their chances to become undisputed ?
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Lol, I give up.ValMar wrote:SaadOffTheDeck, just imagine situation where Lomachenko stay at SFW. Would you, really, give Garcia 0% chance to become undisputed at LW ?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:greg wrote:..I'm not sure how you guys come up with all these percentagesin actuality everyone but Crawford, indongo, ggg, bjs,, Joshua & wilder would be 0%.
Who can defeat him (at 135) ? Nobody ! Simple, but true....
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marvelous marv
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Haymon has almost every major fighter at 154 other than Canello who is moving up. I could see a guy like Lubin eventually emerging even if he doesn't have a title yet. The biggest obstacle is politics.
Crawford has a great shot if Indongo keeps winning.
The Heavyweight picture will be clear in a few weeks. If Wlad wins and then retires it would set the division into chaos again.
Crawford has a great shot if Indongo keeps winning.
The Heavyweight picture will be clear in a few weeks. If Wlad wins and then retires it would set the division into chaos again.
Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
I didn't tell Lomachenko would be the undisputed champion at SFW and LW in the same time......Once, again - if he stay at 130 he will be the undisputed (I will neglect dirty promoters' games, avoiding and corrupted judges/refs).....If he decide to move up, at 135, he could be the undisputed, for me, only dangerous rival is Mikey Garcia. I don't think it is complicated, it is almost obvious.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:So? He has 1 of those 8 titles. He wouldn't even have enough fights in the next two years to collect all of those belts. It seems like you're asking one question and answering another.ValMar wrote:OK, I did not read the article about Lomachenko's intention to move up at 135 soon. And, I will take a risk to be boring, but, I really consider Lomachenko invincible at 130, and almost invincible at 135 (only potential exception - M. Garcia). I can not see Linares beat Loma.SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Are you confused by your own question? You have to weigh everything into it. I think there has been 1 ever? And you got 95% on a guy not even half way?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160. 
Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.
1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.
OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
He's been chasing it for years!!!!! I know English isn't your first language but it's much more endearing to admit confusion than argue silliness.ValMar wrote:There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.
1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.
OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....
Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Of course, I am not a native English speaker, and, I am confused, from time to time. I admit that I was not so precise in this topic. But, be honest, please, and answer the question....Do you consider Lomachenko the best boxer at SFW, right now ?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's been chasing it for years!!!!! I know English isn't your first language but it's much more endearing to admit confusion than argue silliness.ValMar wrote:There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.
1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.
OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Yes, everyone does. No way in hell he'll get all 4 belts.ValMar wrote:Of course, I am not a native English speaker, and, I am confused, from time to time. I admit that I was not so precise in this topic. But, be honest, please, and answer the question....Do you consider Lomachenko the best boxer at SFW, right now ?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's been chasing it for years!!!!! I know English isn't your first language but it's much more endearing to admit confusion than argue silliness.ValMar wrote:
There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :
1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.
OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....
Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Crawford at 140 and Golovkin at 160 are most likely. If Crawford gets past Diaz then he's 1 fight away (Indongo). Golovkin is already 1 fight away (Saunders). Can't see any fights for all 4 belts happening any time soon in any other divisions unfortunately.
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HyacinthusTurnipseed
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Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
FWIW Eddie Hearn is claiming that he has "promoter options" on Indongo's next fight (talks about it from around 1.20 until 2.40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHxMhcoFvA0
I think the Burns rematch is unlikely (people surely won't be queuing up for that at all, but what do I know?), but Indongo-Davis to bolster some kind of PPV event is possible. Makes the Crawford fight being next a little less likely too but maybe not impossible (does that sell well in Omaha?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHxMhcoFvA0
I think the Burns rematch is unlikely (people surely won't be queuing up for that at all, but what do I know?), but Indongo-Davis to bolster some kind of PPV event is possible. Makes the Crawford fight being next a little less likely too but maybe not impossible (does that sell well in Omaha?).
Re: Their chances to become undisputed ?
Lomachenkos 95% chance is real IF other champions get in ring with him ...and that may be problem