wilder? Who be next?

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wilder? Who be next?

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any news? stiverne ?
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Re: wilder? Who be next?

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Maybe this guy? About the same level as Wilder's previous opponents.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356500
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Re: wilder? Who be next?

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boxing_rocks wrote:Maybe this guy? About the same level as Wilder's previous opponents.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356500
maybe you are the troll should be banned?
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Re: wilder? Who be next?

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Somebody who's not in the Top 10...you can bet on that.
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The answer will come after wlad/joshua, and fury/parker. If he can't get a unification, then ortiz and stiverne are in play.
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marvelous marv wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Maybe this guy? About the same level as Wilder's previous opponents.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356500
maybe you are the troll should be banned?
Have you heard about humor? You need some training on that.
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Re: wilder? Who be next?

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Amir Mansour? Breazeale?
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Breazeale is suing him, so I doubt he is next.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Maybe this guy? About the same level as Wilder's previous opponents.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356500
maybe you are the troll should be banned?
Have you heard about humor? You need some training on that.
The only only thing funny are the sweet nothings you and Max Kellerman whisper to GGG.
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marvelous marv wrote:The answer will come after wlad/joshua, and fury/parker. If he can't get a unification, then ortiz and stiverne are in play.
Stiverne is the only Top 10 guy he's fought, and apparently the only Top 10 guy he ever intends to fight. So I wouldn't be surprised if his 2nd Top 10 opponent is a rematch of the only Top 10 opponent he's fought. Especially since Stiverne has only looked worse since losing to Wilder.
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crusader wrote:Amir Mansour? Breazeale?
I'd actually like it if it were Mansour. He goes for it at least. Probably goes for it a little too much for Wilder's taste.
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Goes for it, but I can't say his most recent showing gives me much confidence in his chances against Wilder. It's not like DW hasn't already beaten guys around that level, and Mansour would be giving up a lot of length.
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Yeah Wilder would beat him, but I have very little respect for Wilder, and his career up to now has proven he's an absolute coward. He's in the midst of the most disgraceful title run in the sport right now...and this is while Adonis Stevenson still holds a title so that's saying something.
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gilgamesh wrote:Yeah Wilder would beat him, but I have very little respect for Wilder, and his career up to now has proven he's an absolute coward. He's in the midst of the most disgraceful title run in the sport right now...and this is while Adonis Stevenson still holds a title so that's saying something.
How is he a coward? He had some fights fall thru, he often says in interviews his last few years have been cursed. I do feel what Stevenson is doing is reprehensible.
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marvelous marv wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
maybe you are the troll should be banned?
Have you heard about humor? You need some training on that.
The only only thing funny are the sweet nothings you and Max Kellerman whisper to GGG.
I must've hurt your feelings. Sorry, girl.
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marvelous marv wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Yeah Wilder would beat him, but I have very little respect for Wilder, and his career up to now has proven he's an absolute coward. He's in the midst of the most disgraceful title run in the sport right now...and this is while Adonis Stevenson still holds a title so that's saying something.
How is he a coward? He had some fights fall thru, he often says in interviews his last few years have been cursed. I do feel what Stevenson is doing is reprehensible.
The only time he was supposed to fight somebody decent after winning the title from a B level opponent, was a mandatory situation. All his voluntary defenses are against opponents posing no danger.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Have you heard about humor? You need some training on that.
The only only thing funny are the sweet nothings you and Max Kellerman whisper to GGG.
I must've hurt your feelings. Sorry, girl.
Thanks for destroying another thread.
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marvelous marv wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
The only only thing funny are the sweet nothings you and Max Kellerman whisper to GGG.
I must've hurt your feelings. Sorry, girl.
Thanks for destroying another thread.
That honor is all yours.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
I must've hurt your feelings. Sorry, girl.
Thanks for destroying another thread.
That honor is all yours.
:clap:
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Re: wilder? Who be next?

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marvelous marv wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Yeah Wilder would beat him, but I have very little respect for Wilder, and his career up to now has proven he's an absolute coward. He's in the midst of the most disgraceful title run in the sport right now...and this is while Adonis Stevenson still holds a title so that's saying something.
How is he a coward? He had some fights fall thru, he often says in interviews his last few years have been cursed. I do feel what Stevenson is doing is reprehensible.
5 title defenses. Not one of them against a Top 10 ranked opponent. Stevenson's title reign is indeed reprehensible, but guess what...he's fought Top 10 ranked opponents in that reign. So if his reign is reprehensible what does that make Wilder's?
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Wilders opponents are pretty poor. He was unlucky re potvetkin.", but the rest is really week.

He needs an opponent before he becomes irrelevant
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Ossyrules wrote:Wilders opponents are pretty poor. He was unlucky re potvetkin.", but the rest is really week.

He needs an opponent before he becomes irrelevant
Unfortunately he can't become irrelevant while he holds a title, but I will very much enjoy seeing his chickensh*t ass knocked out.
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gilgamesh wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Yeah Wilder would beat him, but I have very little respect for Wilder, and his career up to now has proven he's an absolute coward. He's in the midst of the most disgraceful title run in the sport right now...and this is while Adonis Stevenson still holds a title so that's saying something.
How is he a coward? He had some fights fall thru, he often says in interviews his last few years have been cursed. I do feel what Stevenson is doing is reprehensible.
5 title defenses. Not one of them against a Top 10 ranked opponent. Stevenson's title reign is indeed reprehensible, but guess what...he's fought Top 10 ranked opponents in that reign. So if his reign is reprehensible what does that make Wilder's?
The biggest difference to me is that some of Wilder's opponents, without going thru every fight, were a result of the Povetkin situation or injury. I still feel he wants to make the biggest fights possible. He will be in London to do commentary for Sky and meet with the winner of Wlad/Joshua, which means nothing unless they sign to fight him, but he is trying.

Stevenson broke off negotiations with the "dangerous" Seanie Monahan, to rematch Fonfara at home after he looked very bad in an untelevised fight against Dawson on the undercard of Garcia/Thurman. Fonfara lost almost every round it was so one sided and won by a late fluky knockout. I even saw Fonfara wandering the main concourse at the Barclays Center later that evening and his face was heavily bruised.
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Re: wilder? Who be next?

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marvelous marv wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:
How is he a coward? He had some fights fall thru, he often says in interviews his last few years have been cursed. I do feel what Stevenson is doing is reprehensible.
5 title defenses. Not one of them against a Top 10 ranked opponent. Stevenson's title reign is indeed reprehensible, but guess what...he's fought Top 10 ranked opponents in that reign. So if his reign is reprehensible what does that make Wilder's?
The biggest difference to me is that some of Wilder's opponents, without going thru every fight, were a result of the Povetkin situation or injury. I still feel he wants to make the biggest fights possible. He will be in London to do commentary for Sky and meet with the winner of Wlad/Joshua, which means nothing unless they sign to fight him, but he is trying.
How would it even be possible to be trying to make the biggest fights possible and not fight a Top 10 opponent in 5 title defenses? Luis Ortiz, Carlos Takam, Andy Ruiz...any of those guys would be better than who he's defended against, and I'm sure he could get one of those guys to fight him.

Wilder is a joke.

He wants a big money fight, but he doesn't want any opponent with a pulse until he's getting a big money payday because he's a coward and knows he doesn't deserve the position he's in.
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Ruiz might be the only guy at Heavy that politically won't fight Wilder as he is with Golden Boy as was Ortiz until very recently. Ortiz-Wilder seems like it will happen this year. Takam is solid, but wasnt ranked by the WBC until recently.
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