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AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.
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Porter looked Great ! Reminded me of those old Henry Armstrong clips. Not putting him in that category, but Porter looked damned good.
Really appreciated the conditioning he had to win like that.
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caldo2025 wrote:AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.

I think we watched a different fight because Porter just beat the crap out of him. He even has a nice jab too.
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They have a word for it. Brawler. That's what Porter's style is....
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If Thurman doesn't do the rematch this year I hope Spence gives him a shot.
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Top notch conditioning from Porter.
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I wanna see style vs Spence. To see if Spence can figure that style. It will wear physically but also mentially.
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Spence is quite an infighter himself.
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I honestly think porter would give/have have floyd real trouble with his style. Just like maidana a brawler that comes in at very awkward angles and doesn't stop pressing forward. Imo porter gives any version of floyd as much trouble as maidana did.
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The only reason I would enjoy a fight with Porter in it, is a fight against someone with a similar style, like Maidana. His style is ugly, and you have to have great footwork and lateral movement, along with enough power to keep him off. Berto didn't have it. Although I think he is a better boxer, he was out of his element. Too many head clashes in that fight. They needed a ref that penalizes for it instead of warning over and over.
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Tony1244 wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.

I think we watched a different fight because Porter just beat the crap out of him. He even has a nice jab too.
I should probably point out that i'd probably do the same thing if I were Porter. He's a limited boxer that has found a niche way of fighting that is not being penalized or altered by the referee inside the ropes. He's a former wrestler and football player, two sports in which the head is one of your most important tools of success.

With all that said, Berto knew what kind of fight he had in front of him and seemed to want out of it as soon as he found that Porter's aggression would not be regulated by the rules. No heart or balls is what i'd say about Berto. Go retire and stop wasting our time.
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sykessta wrote:I honestly think porter would give/have have floyd real trouble with his style. Just like maidana a brawler that comes in at very awkward angles and doesn't stop pressing forward. Imo porter gives any version of floyd as much trouble as maidana did.
You're nutso. Do you honestly think that Floyd wouldn't have that ref in his pocket? Just like Maidana II, the ref would do everything to take away Porter's advantage. I'd honestly say that I think that Porter would probably be disqualified if he did what he did last night to Floyd. The fight would be over and Floyd would be crying like the bitch he is.
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caldo2025 wrote:AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.
You're thick as a brick caldo2025.. Porter-Berto was a mismatch from jump street.. NOBODY was interested on watching it because it was a foregone conclusion who was going to win.. The only thing Berto was going to get from this fight was a damned good beating and a KO loss... The only reason Floyd fought Berto instead of World Welterweight Title Unification Fights with undefeated Keith Thurman or Kell Brook??? ... Because Berto was an easy mark who lost 3 of his previous 6 fights while getting knocked down 6 time -- while Thurman or Brook were going to beat the crap out of Floyd if he ventured close to them.

Now Berto lost 5 of his last 9 fights while getting floored 10 times and knocked out twice in the process... His record is getting to look like Amir Khan's would if the Muslim fought a couple of the top Welterweights... Not to mention Pacquiao and Bradley who also consistently ducked the top Welters.
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I agree, Porter got away with way too much by the Referee. Since it was Berto they let it slide. I am not a fan of Porters style hut they let him get away with it. He definitely used his head as a weapon last night.
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Kalan wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.
You're thick as a brick caldo2025.. Porter-Berto was a mismatch from jump street.. NOBODY was interested on watching it because it was a foregone conclusion who was going to win.. The only thing Berto was going to get from this fight was a damned good beating and a KO loss... The only reason Floyd fought Berto instead of World Welterweight Title Unification Fights with undefeated Keith Thurman or Kell Brook??? ... Because Berto was an easy mark who lost 3 of his previous 6 fights while getting knocked down 6 time -- while Thurman or Brook were going to beat the crap out of Floyd if he ventured close to them.

Now Berto lost 5 of his last 9 fights while getting floored 10 times and knocked out twice in the process... His record is getting to look like Amir Khan's would if the Muslim fought a couple of the top Welterweights... Not to mention Pacquiao and Bradley who also consistently ducked the top Welters.
I agree...I agree....about me being as thick as a brick and that Berto should have retired years ago and had no chance of winning last night. But Porter's fight are nearly unwatchable to me. Don't sign a contract to fight this guy unless you are going to get in there and muck it up like Brook did and roll your sleeves up. Berto was getting thrown around like a rag doll while crying to the ref at the same time. He was just dying for a way out of that fight. Agreed. Berto Sucks.

But regardless, Porter is dirty and his style of fighting needs to be penalized. You have a habitual headset abusing fighter for years and never ever has been penalized for it. Why have a ref then?
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MachoTime wrote:They have a word for it. Brawler. That's what Porter's style is....
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IMO the most frustrating thing in boxing is not being able to hit your opponent or hit cleanly. Porter was up in berto's face, grabbing him, using his head, smothering him, pushing him around not allowing him to use his hands. I felt the frustration. Obviously its effective, both in terms of shutting down your opponents offence and frustration. I agree he is a nightmare to fight, for anyone in welterweight really. Saying that I can't stand it, I'm not a fan. PPl saying he's like Maidana, Maidana was a brawler who threw multiple awkward punches, he could punch with a hand tied up yes, but his offence was primarily punching not grabbing punching, pushing, head manovers etc.
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caldo2025 wrote:I agree...I agree....about me being as thick as a brick and that Berto should have retired years ago and had no chance of winning last night. But Porter's fight are nearly unwatchable to me. Don't sign a contract to fight this guy unless you are going to get in there and muck it up like Brook did and roll your sleeves up. Berto was getting thrown around like a rag doll while crying to the ref at the same time. He was just dying for a way out of that fight. Agreed. Berto Sucks.

But regardless, Porter is dirty and his style of fighting needs to be penalized. You have a habitual headset abusing fighter for years and never ever has been penalized for it. Why have a ref then?
I agree with your concept.. That dirty fighters are allowed to operate freely in Boxing.. I feel your frustration any time I watch Henry Armstrong and I never even saw him fight live.. He got away with murder and people don't care.. I did watch Joe Frazier live and didn't like him because he used his head for leverage and shoved you, and put his hands on you.. But Smokin’ wasn't one 10th as dirty as Armstrong -- and Joe got his ass taken care of by Foreman, who ripped his head off when he led with it.. Armstrong lost a couple fights on DQ and had 5 or 6 points taken in other fights, but he never stopped head butting, pushing, and shoving for a minute. He fought mostly in front of friendly referees.. Armstrong couldn’t do anything with punchers like Beau Jack and Ray Robinson, but he was supposed to be great.

Porter I actually like... He wasn't as dirty as Broner who wrestled and held every minute of their fight and Porter had to make the contract weight of 144... I didn't like the Porter-Berto fight because I think Pacquiao, Bradley, and Khan should be forced to fight the top Welterweights: Spence, Brook, Thurman, and Porter is up there too. He's not as slick as Brook and Thurman - but I still think he's a great fighter and doesn't head butt intentionally. He moves, jabs, counters, and boxes a lot between his gorilla charges.. He’s a very strong guy and very difficult to fight.
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Kalan wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I agree...I agree....about me being as thick as a brick and that Berto should have retired years ago and had no chance of winning last night. But Porter's fight are nearly unwatchable to me. Don't sign a contract to fight this guy unless you are going to get in there and muck it up like Brook did and roll your sleeves up. Berto was getting thrown around like a rag doll while crying to the ref at the same time. He was just dying for a way out of that fight. Agreed. Berto Sucks.

But regardless, Porter is dirty and his style of fighting needs to be penalized. You have a habitual headset abusing fighter for years and never ever has been penalized for it. Why have a ref then?
I agree with your concept.. That dirty fighters are allowed to operate freely in Boxing.. I feel your frustration any time I watch Henry Armstrong and I never even saw him fight live.. He got away with murder and people don't care.. I did watch Joe Frazier live and didn't like him because he used his head for leverage and shoved you, and put his hands on you.. But Smokin’ wasn't one 10th as dirty as Armstrong -- and Joe got his ass taken care of by Foreman, who ripped his head off when he led with it.. Armstrong lost a couple fights on DQ and had 5 or 6 points taken in other fights, but he never stopped head butting, pushing, and shoving for a minute. He fought mostly in front of friendly referees.. Armstrong couldn’t do anything with punchers like Beau Jack and Ray Robinson, but he was supposed to be great.

Porter I actually like... He wasn't as dirty as Broner who wrestled and held every minute of their fight and Porter had to make the contract weight of 144... I didn't like the Porter-Berto fight because I think Pacquiao, Bradley, and Khan should be forced to fight the top Welterweights: Spence, Brook, Thurman, and Porter is up there too. He's not as slick as Brook and Thurman - but I still think he's a great fighter and doesn't head butt intentionally. He moves, jabs, counters, and boxes a lot between his gorilla charges.. He’s a very strong guy and very difficult to fight.
I will say that I liked the Porter that fought Thurman. Porter fought a more traditional fight and for a large portion of that fight, had the better jab which was very surprising to me. And I think that's part of the reason why I dislike the mauling silverback gorilla charge that Porter uses most of the time. He can box and he can keep a fight clean but chooses not to on most occasions.

Referee's primary job inside the ring is to protect both boxers and to not site this kid on what he's doing with his head inside that ring is putting many people in jeopardy including Porter. Personally, I hope that they sign on for the rematch with Thurman and I hope he knocks Porter out.
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caldo2025 wrote:
Kalan wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I agree...I agree....about me being as thick as a brick and that Berto should have retired years ago and had no chance of winning last night. But Porter's fight are nearly unwatchable to me. Don't sign a contract to fight this guy unless you are going to get in there and muck it up like Brook did and roll your sleeves up. Berto was getting thrown around like a rag doll while crying to the ref at the same time. He was just dying for a way out of that fight. Agreed. Berto Sucks.

But regardless, Porter is dirty and his style of fighting needs to be penalized. You have a habitual headset abusing fighter for years and never ever has been penalized for it. Why have a ref then?
I agree with your concept.. That dirty fighters are allowed to operate freely in Boxing.. I feel your frustration any time I watch Henry Armstrong and I never even saw him fight live.. He got away with murder and people don't care.. I did watch Joe Frazier live and didn't like him because he used his head for leverage and shoved you, and put his hands on you.. But Smokin’ wasn't one 10th as dirty as Armstrong -- and Joe got his ass taken care of by Foreman, who ripped his head off when he led with it.. Armstrong lost a couple fights on DQ and had 5 or 6 points taken in other fights, but he never stopped head butting, pushing, and shoving for a minute. He fought mostly in front of friendly referees.. Armstrong couldn’t do anything with punchers like Beau Jack and Ray Robinson, but he was supposed to be great.

Porter I actually like... He wasn't as dirty as Broner who wrestled and held every minute of their fight and Porter had to make the contract weight of 144... I didn't like the Porter-Berto fight because I think Pacquiao, Bradley, and Khan should be forced to fight the top Welterweights: Spence, Brook, Thurman, and Porter is up there too. He's not as slick as Brook and Thurman - but I still think he's a great fighter and doesn't head butt intentionally. He moves, jabs, counters, and boxes a lot between his gorilla charges.. He’s a very strong guy and very difficult to fight.
I will say that I liked the Porter that fought Thurman. Porter fought a more traditional fight and for a large portion of that fight, had the better jab which was very surprising to me. And I think that's part of the reason why I dislike the mauling silverback gorilla charge that Porter uses most of the time. He can box and he can keep a fight clean but chooses not to on most occasions.

Referee's primary job inside the ring is to protect both boxers and to not site this kid on what he's doing with his head inside that ring is putting many people in jeopardy including Porter. Personally, I hope that they sign on for the rematch with Thurman and I hope he knocks Porter out.
Porter keeps "a fight clean" when forced to by his opposition. Once Upon A Time and The Battle of Kell Brook showed what it takes to subdue a raging bull. It is not easy.

Porter optimizes his potential. It is not pretty but I enjoy watching it. He is similar to Ramming Speed at it. They do what they gotta do with their limited gifts and skillsets.
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Kalan wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.
Not to mention Pacquiao and Bradley who also consistently ducked the top Welters.
I challenge anyone to find a boxer who has fought a more difficult schedule than Ramming Speed the last 10 years. There may be someone out there, but it would be close.
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caldo2025 wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:AND...Wlad Klitschko would be a great stand up comic. If you believe in either one of these statements then give me a call because I've got a bridge for sale and I'll give you a super deal.

A Porter fight is like dropping 2 cats in a pillow case for 12 rounds. Porter can give the "ah shucks" post fight interviews and apologize all that he wants but he's not fooling anyone, he's dirty. He CLEARLY uses his head as a weapon and it's the focal point of his attack. He not only leads with his head but he uses it to keep his opponent stationary and on the ropes and to free himself from clinches. This is clearly against the rules of boxing. We've seen Shawn Porter fight in this manner for years and not once has a point been taken away from him for head fouls.

What Porter is doing inside the ring is not called Boxing. They don't really have a word yet for Porter's style of fighting but it has no place inside the ring, whatever it is. It's ugly, illegal and not entertaining and it surprises me that a ref hasn't penalized him to this point. Why any boxer would sign a contract to fight this guy and the illegal tactics he's allowed to employ inside the ring, is beyond me.

I think we watched a different fight because Porter just beat the crap out of him. He even has a nice jab too.
I should probably point out that i'd probably do the same thing if I were Porter. He's a limited boxer that has found a niche way of fighting that is not being penalized or altered by the referee inside the ropes. He's a former wrestler and football player, two sports in which the head is one of your most important tools of success.

With all that said, Berto knew what kind of fight he had in front of him and seemed to want out of it as soon as he found that Porter's aggression would not be regulated by the rules. No heart or balls is what i'd say about Berto. Go retire and stop wasting our time.
Good point on the wrestling and football. He uses what he has and knows. Refs sometimes do allow too much head butting and/or clinching. As a fan, the clinching annoys me more personally.

In the other fight, Charlo likely has more talent than Porter but I find Porter more entertaining. Charlie scored a good KO but before that some of it was quite dull.
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Good win for Porter and done it in style. Bossing things and getting the knockdowns and eventually KO. But let's put things in to perspective. Berto is past his best and wasn't even that good to begin with. He should without a doubt call it a day now.

Porter is a hard watch most of the time. Even if he's fighting guys like Brook and Thurman who I'm a fan of both, it's difficult, nearly impossible to look good against. I don't mind Shawn outside the ring but I can't go his old man. Always got far too much to say for himself.
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