The problem i have with this forum

[Jip]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight". Basicly they cant hate on his skills and physical ability, si they hate on his record, when other top boxers like morales. Manny or calzaghe never faced such good opponents in their first 10 fights. Just be happy that we have a new atg in boxing with very rare skills. Boxers like this dont gez born often. Appreciate.

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

Maybe some of u should start watching table tennis cause some of you dont have no clue when they see a very good boxer infront of them. To me its more than easy to realize if someones the real deal or not.

[Ossyrules]

If this is a reaction to my response to you on the AJ Lewis thread, it's damn funny! Btw I'm a big Joshua fan! Love what he's doing.

As for Lennox Lewis being boring, watch:

Vs Vitali

Vs Mercer

Vs Briggs

Vs Razor

Vs Bruno

Now Lennox Lewis isn't Mike Tyson granted, but to place him in the same sentence as Wlad as boring, you show a lack of knowledge.

Only my non expert opinion

[Covfefe]

The Grant fight was good too.

[Ossyrules]

The Grant fight was good too.

I was going to mention grant but that was part of the question I put to him on another thread where he insinuated Lewis struggled vs taller guys

[crusader]

Wlad-Peter
Wlad-Brewster
Wlad-Pulev
Wlad-Purrity
Wlad-Austin/Jefferson/Sanders if we're going to include devastating blowouts

Wlad's great to watch!

[Ossyrules]

Wlad-Peter
Wlad-Brewster
Wlad-Pulev
Wlad-Purrity
Wlad-Austin/Jefferson/Sanders if we're going to include devastating blowouts

Wlad's great to watch!

Each to there own, but I'd say the majority aren't with you re his entertainment. Early Wlad was more entertaining imo

Plus not sure if you can count the sanders fight. Getting battered for a few rounds! It's like saying Bruno was entertaining in Tyson 2. Not sure if big frank contributed too much to it though

[crusader]

Vulnerability is part of why certain fighters are fun to watch, and most of those Lewis fights were entertaining in large part because of what the opponents did. I know that many people consider Wlad boring and I can see why, but even for him you can cherry-pick fights that were good watches.

For the record, I don't think Lewis was generally a boring fighter, and on average his fights had more action than Wlad's.

[Jip]

Lewis was a bit boring
Wlad is totaly boring

In of the day both were boring.

Finaly we have an elite heavyweight who is light years away from being boring

[BitPlayer]

Lewis was a bit boring
Wlad is totaly boring

In of the day both were boring.

Finaly we have an elite heavyweight who is light years away from being boring

ANd elite heavyweight that hasn't fought above British level. True 18 fights in, 18 year old Manny hadn't done as well, but there are plenty of fighters to have done more like that early on and turned out to be far from elite. That's why who you thought matters so much. Plus better fighters make doing stuff much harder.

This is why I hate Joshua fnaboys they sell him as the great, the number 1, totally elite, that as soon as it's pointed out that has isn''t close to proving that they move the goalposts and start defending him as a prospect.

And if what you did so many fights in determined how great you were James J Jeffries what be atleast a level above Ali.

[hagler81]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight". Basicly they cant hate on his skills and physical ability, si they hate on his record, when other top boxers like morales. Manny or calzaghe never faced such good opponents in their first 10 fights. Just be happy that we have a new atg in boxing with very rare skills. Boxers like this dont gez born often. Appreciate.

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

Maybe some of u should start watching table tennis cause some of you dont have no clue when they see a very good boxer infront of them. To me its more than easy to realize if someones the real deal or not.

So you are the outmost authority are you on boxing who is an expert? What credentials do you have?

AJ is potential, he hasn't fought anyone yet, yes he looks the real deal but so did Riddick Bowe. He is not an atg, you can't be considered all time at 26, come back when he's cleaned up.

[J]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight". Basicly they cant hate on his skills and physical ability, si they hate on his record, when other top boxers like morales. Manny or calzaghe never faced such good opponents in their first 10 fights. Just be happy that we have a new atg in boxing with very rare skills. Boxers like this dont gez born often. Appreciate.

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

Maybe some of u should start watching table tennis cause some of you dont have no clue when they see a very good boxer infront of them. To me its more than easy to realize if someones the real deal or not.

and what qualifies you as an expert?
I like AJ but you talk crap, he hasn't proved anything yet. Saturday is his acid test, Lewis was against Ruddock, we find out if he has the minerals sat. That might be a fair comparison was the Lewis that fought Ruddock as good as AJ now?

Before you start I have been following boxing over 30 years and have seen more fights that you have had hot dinners, from big events to small hall, even spent a few years writing and getting published.

Qualified enough for you?

[J]

sorry I just worked out the problem Jip is 12.

quote from another thread
Before u guys get on me. Techniquly in a p4p sense prime ali and prime tyson over any heavyweight ever!
unquote.


Yeh m8 tru dat innit blud

now now time for school young Jip.

p.s. what does Techniquly mean? Do you mean Technically? Extra English lessons young man.

[hagler81]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight". Basicly they cant hate on his skills and physical ability, si they hate on his record, when other top boxers like morales. Manny or calzaghe never faced such good opponents in their first 10 fights. Just be happy that we have a new atg in boxing with very rare skills. Boxers like this dont gez born often. Appreciate.

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

Maybe some of u should start watching table tennis cause some of you dont have no clue when they see a very good boxer infront of them. To me its more than easy to realize if someones the real deal or not.

and what qualifies you as an expert?
I like AJ but you talk crap, he hasn't proved anything yet. Saturday is his acid test, Lewis was against Ruddock, we find out if he has the minerals sat. That might be a fair comparison was the Lewis that fought Ruddock as good as AJ now?

Before you start I have been following boxing over 30 years and have seen more fights that you have had hot dinners, from big events to small hall, even spent a few years writing and getting published.

Qualified enough for you?

Man why you got it in for Lewis? aj is looking as good as but cmon mate Lewis fought some BIG names and he avenged his two defeats. I really like aj, I am not one of these British fans who hate on our own. However to be an atg you need many years experience. You have had work published? good, I would be interested in reading any articles or books you have. Just ordered a book on Freddie Mills. You do have great knowledge I am sure, but aj atg? you got the x on family fortunes les dennis style.

[verlichte]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight"....

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

You repeatedly boast about being a so-called “expert” about the sport of boxing, as per the hyperlink below…

i am a expert, i dont need many fights to know that someone is special.

So what knowledge and experience do you possess that differentiates yourself from those that you accuse of being “non experts”?

Why do you feel your opinion is more valuable than others?

[TheGingerBomber]

I assume the other fighter he means is Loma, and I agree that there are some people saying shit about him...but you can't compare him to AJ because AJ hasn't even fought a top 10 guy.

Loma has showed he's the real, so I think anyone doubting him as great is just a hater, but with AJ it's genuine doubt.

[candyslim]

The only problem I have with this forum is how there are frequently numerous threads on the same subject. The only other forum I am a member of (Knees Up Mother Brown) is pretty hot on merging threads which are very similar.

They also made it so that you can only have one previous quote in your post. This avoids a one line comment taking up half the page because it's just been added to everything that went before all re-quoted.

It seems bandwidth isn't an issue on here.

[lefty]

Cringe.

[J]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight". Basicly they cant hate on his skills and physical ability, si they hate on his record, when other top boxers like morales. Manny or calzaghe never faced such good opponents in their first 10 fights. Just be happy that we have a new atg in boxing with very rare skills. Boxers like this dont gez born often. Appreciate.

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

Maybe some of u should start watching table tennis cause some of you dont have no clue when they see a very good boxer infront of them. To me its more than easy to realize if someones the real deal or not.

and what qualifies you as an expert?
I like AJ but you talk crap, he hasn't proved anything yet. Saturday is his acid test, Lewis was against Ruddock, we find out if he has the minerals sat. That might be a fair comparison was the Lewis that fought Ruddock as good as AJ now?

Before you start I have been following boxing over 30 years and have seen more fights that you have had hot dinners, from big events to small hall, even spent a few years writing and getting published.

Qualified enough for you?

Man why you got it in for Lewis? aj is looking as good as but cmon mate Lewis fought some BIG names and he avenged his two defeats. I really like aj, I am not one of these British fans who hate on our own. However to be an atg you need many years experience. You have had work published? good, I would be interested in reading any articles or books you have. Just ordered a book on Freddie Mills. You do have great knowledge I am sure, but aj atg? you got the x on family fortunes les dennis style.

ERM THINK YOU DIGGIN AT THE BROTHER, BROTHER, I am a huge lennox and AJ fan was taking issues with young Jip here.

[Syntax Error]

Is a 'non-expert' someone that just happens to have a different opinion to you?

It's amazing that some people who frequent internet forums can actually interact with other human beings at all.

Internet forums have given rise to masses of pseudo-intellectuals who believe that their opinion on something hypothetical is actually a fact!

Note to such people: An opinion is just that, an opinion, NOT a fact & anyone who doesn't share your opinion is not stupid, wrong or a 'non-expert', they just have a different opinion to you, which in most places outside North Korea is still allowed in 2017.

[punchoutsb]

you can't be considered all time at 26

http://boxrec.com/boxer/9028

[hagler81]

you can't be considered all time at 26

http://boxrec.com/boxer/9028

of course but look at the quality of opposition so far.

[Loki]

The amount of non experts in here. Its crazy.

We have a talent that we have rarely seen in boxing with footwork rarely seen before, with punch variation and speed at atg level and what are the hating non experts say"who did he fight". Basicly they cant hate on his skills and physical ability, si they hate on his record, when other top boxers like morales. Manny or calzaghe never faced such good opponents in their first 10 fights. Just be happy that we have a new atg in boxing with very rare skills. Boxers like this dont gez born often. Appreciate.

Same with sj. After 20 years of a boring heavyweight division with lewis, the wrestler wlad and roboter vitaly we finaly have an athletic tall strong elite puncher and all u do is hate. Non experts.

Maybe some of u should start watching table tennis cause some of you dont have no clue when they see a very good boxer infront of them. To me its more than easy to realize if someones the real deal or not.

I do like your enthusiasm Jip, but your posts are god awful.

[punchoutsb]

you can't be considered all time at 26

http://boxrec.com/boxer/9028

of course but look at the quality of opposition so far.

I know mate, just having a laugh! I agree with you.

[hagler81]

http://boxrec.com/boxer/9028

of course but look at the quality of opposition so far.

I know mate, just having a laugh! I agree with you.

Absolutely. I really like aj but I am afraid jip is bonkers.

Had to take a good look at Ketchel's record then. Fought some tremendous fighters, shame I can't see many.

[punchoutsb]

of course but look at the quality of opposition so far.

I know mate, just having a laugh! I agree with you.

Absolutely. I really like aj but I am afraid jip is bonkers.

Had to take a good look at Ketchel's record then. Fought some tremendous fighters, shame I can't see many.

One of the greatest middles ever, and his career is even more impressive (and tragic) when you consider that he died at 24.