Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Was the stoppage good?

Yes
46
67%
No
15
22%
Hard to tell
8
12%
 
Total votes: 69

Heretic
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Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Heretic »

What do you think about the stoppage at the end of Joshua vs Klitchko?

Wlad went down from really hard uppercut and was clearly hurt. He got up only to go down a second time soon after. He got up again and Joshua was shooting on all cylinders and chased him to the ropes. Wlad was not throwing anything back but was defending himself well. One minute to go on the round and the referee stopped the fight.

There are couple of ways the fight could have gone without the stoppage. First is the one where Joshua gets a good shot in and finishes the fight with KO.

Another way it could have gone is Wlad survives to fight in the 12 round against potentially gassed Joshua.

In my own opinion the championship fight should not be decided by the referee.

How do you see the stoppage?

Was it good or not?
Monkey Alan
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Monkey Alan »

Great stoppage! Kiltschkov was done!!!
Cent0089
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Cent0089 »

Hard to say, but taking shots in heavyweight division is no joke
fightfan95
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by fightfan95 »

The right call imo.
Lenny Cravats
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Lenny Cravats »

Wlad didn't look like he was going to get out of that corner. AJ had him pinned. Wlad wasn't throwing anything back and was clearly still hurt from that uppercut.
If the stoppage wouldn't have come at that point, it would have no more than 10 seconds later of AJ throwing bombs. If you're the responsible man in the ring, you don't let that happen.
Good stoppage. No way Wlad was getting out of that.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Ossyrules »

Wlad was badly hurt, huge upper cut and 2 knock downs. I didn't think he was gonna get up from the seconded he looked very shakey. Big guts from him to get up from that.

Then Joshua has him pinned and stuff isn't landing clean, but look up to the build up to that point.

The stoppage was good, guys need to give the ref a break there
ValMar
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by ValMar »

Ossyrules wrote:Wlad was badly hurt, huge upper cut and 2 knock downs. I didn't think he was gonna get up from the seconded he looked very shakey. Big guts from him to get up from that.

Then Joshua has him pinned and stuff isn't landing clean, but look up to the build up to that point.

The stoppage was good, guys need to give the ref a break there
Yes !
Jip
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Jip »

Wlad went down 2 times and was hurt. Ref protected bim from worse damage.
Ricky_
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Ricky_ »

The ref jumped in when a big left hook landed on the gloves of Klitchko. He would have survived imo.
Badhusker
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Badhusker »

Even though Wlad had been knocked down twice, he was protecting himself just fine. I could see if Joshua landed something big while he had him pinned against the ropes, but there were no significant punches landed while he had him there. BS stoppage imo. Joshua was gassed, and if they let it go on, who knows...maybe Wlad would have KO'd Joshua in the 12th. I guess as long as Wlad isn't bitching about it, I guess I shouldn't. Credit to Wlad for giving credit to AJ for the win, and not making excuses.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by boxing_rocks »

Jip wrote:Wlad went down 2 times and was hurt. Ref protected bim from worse damage.
Yes, Joshua would have likely finished Wlad anyway, but the ref selected a weird time for stoppage. At that time, Wlad showed ability to protect himself just fine. No damage was being inflicted. The ref should have waited for at least one decent punch to land.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Covfefe »

boxing_rocks wrote:
Jip wrote:Wlad went down 2 times and was hurt. Ref protected bim from worse damage.
Yes, Joshua would have likely finished Wlad anyway, but the ref selected a weird time for stoppage. At that time, Wlad showed ability to protect himself just fine. No damage was being inflicted. The ref should have waited for at least one decent punch to land.
I think what we see and when the ref decided to stop it is slightly skewed. He landed a couple of shots and the ref begins to move in having made his decision then Joshua throws more that Kitschko avoids and blocks but the ref was already stopping him by that point.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by gilgamesh »

No complaints about the stoppage. I do think it's not out of the question that Wlad could've possibly gotten himself together and come back, but he was badly hurt and there was still a lot of time left in the round so it was probably the right call.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Tanzio »

I have to admit that at the moment the ref jumped in I was thinking that AJ might gas again and the 12th would be very interesting.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by ewenhay »

The stoppage was understandable. Klitschko didn't complain either. He knew he didn't have enough left to turn it around again. He was more upset about not taking his chance in the 6th and 7th rounds when the stoppage was there for him.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by vostok »

Wlad was celarly hurt. Fact.
Joshua was gassed. That's another fact. He really sucks at this deparment. One of the worst I've seen in a long time.

Wlad was done at the time. But we really don't know for how long Joshua can keep up with that pace..With that really awful, miserable conditioning..

But the stoppage seems to be the right call in the end.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Manchester Hitman »

Ridiculous for anybody to critisize the ref unless of course you want to see Wlad completely splattered on the floor and damaged.Wlad was badly hurt and needed to be saved and thankfully he was.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by asdfjkl »

2 times down in one round and not defending any more against a 250 pound boxer, yes, that's a good stoppage.
Even stopping earlier could have been considered.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by MachoTime »

Joshua did the right thing after the 2nd knockdown by throwing a volume of punches basically giving the ref no choice but to stop it.
vostok
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by vostok »

I rewatched it again.
Changed my mind..Premature stoppage.

Nothing landed significantly by joshua. And he was fading again. Gassing.
There was a minute till the end of the round. But only ~10 seconds left for joshua.
All Wlad has to do was hang on for 5-10 more seconds..
Monte Fisto
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Monte Fisto »

I thought that last flurry was non effective, so no i wouldn't have stopped it. But, 2 heavy knockdowns i'm not screaming at the ref here.
gilgamesh
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by gilgamesh »

Yeah, the 2 uppercuts that lead to the knockdowns were vicious. You definitely can't fault the ref for being a little quick to stop the fight after seeing a guy take 2 shots like that.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Horse »

It was a little quick, but not awful.
Stuarty
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Stuarty »

Was a good stoppage. Wlad showed guts and went out on his shield but it's better a couple punches too early than a couple of punches too late especially at heavyweight.
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Re: Joshua vs Klitchko stoppage?

Post by Lackeos »

Sometimes classic fights are created by bad refereeing. Diego Corrales should've been stopped in Corrales - Castillo 1, but the referee was way too liberal about giving Corrales chances, and it gave Corrales the opportunity to be a hero. The referee was right to stop Klitschko when he did, but as fatigued as both fighters were, and as capable as they both were of dropping each other with any given punch, Wlad still might have been able to turn the tables if he were given more chances. It wouldn't have been worth it, though, to let Joshua and Klitschko potentially ruin each other just to bring the fight to a more conclusive end.
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