Vitali Klitschko: That Was Wladimir's Best Career Fight

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Vitali Klitschko believes his younger brother, Wladimir Klitschko, had the best performance of his long career last Saturday night at Wembley Stadium in London.

Vital Klitschko told Bild-Zeitung.

"I am very proud of my brother. That was his best fight. Unfortunately, the result was wrong. He is not too old at the age of 41. He was very quick on his feet, he was great. I even found him better than Joshua who is 14 years younger. No matter how Wladimir decides how he plans his future as a sportsman - I will support him with all his strength."

Some are calling for Wladimir to retire, but Vitali feels his brother is still young enough to continue his career. Going into the fight with Joshua, Klitschko had been inactive since November 2015, when he suffered an upset decision loss to Tyson Fury. That was Klitschko's first defeat in over ten years.

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It sure was, I guess vitali is a 'hater' too!
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I agree. But it still doesn't change the fact that Wladimir is slower, has worse reaction and reflexes than he used to have in his prime years. There was no man in history (I mean in mankind history, not just boxing or sports history), who had the same speed, reaction and reflexes at 41 y.o. as he had when he was 30 or 35 y.o. It was just the fact that Wladimir fought at 100% of his (current) abilities probably for the first time in his career.
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Has anyone said he's in his prime?
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Considering his long absence from the ring, I was surprised how well he went from the off set. No real rust at all. But I would like him to retire on a high note and I think that was it.
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I agree - it's the most impressive performance of his career.
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Guys, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure Wlad's best performance was against Francesco Vienetta because look how dominant he was!
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In terms of excitement and revenue generation, it’s likely that the Anthony Joshua contest may have been his “best career fight”. However, up until the end of 2014, Wladimir would have inevitably delivered more impressive performances inside the ring.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Guys, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure Wlad's best performance was against Francesco Vienetta because look how dominant he was!
Whose 'Vienetta'? Wasn't that an Italian pudding from the 80s?
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Loki wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Guys, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure Wlad's best performance was against Francesco Vienetta because look how dominant he was!
Whose 'Vienetta'? Wasn't that an Italian pudding from the 80s?
Same difference. LOL, I thought Vitali fought Vienetta anyway.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It sure was, I guess vitali is a 'hater' too!
I think the Pulev fight was better. I agree that Wlad has shut up his haters with this performance but you can't beat Father Time. Had it been in 2013, Joshua wouldn't have made it past 6.

The thing I'm most impressed with is how Wlad came back after the 5th round known down. I think (me included) thought he'd never be able to do that again. He shouldn't got Joshua out of there in the 5th. Was the 5th scored a 10-8 round? It shouldn't have been, 10-9 IMO. I'm not sure what two sets of judges were scoring. I rewatched it and had Klitschko at least 2 rounds up at the 11th.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Loki wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Guys, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure Wlad's best performance was against Francesco Vienetta because look how dominant he was!
Whose 'Vienetta'? Wasn't that an Italian pudding from the 80s?
Same difference. LOL, I thought Vitali fought Vienetta anyway.
I think you could call Solis a pudding but it was Wlad.
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Loki wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It sure was, I guess vitali is a 'hater' too!
I think the Pulev fight was better. I agree that Wlad has shut up his haters with this performance but you can't beat Father Time. Had it been in 2013, Joshua wouldn't have made it past 6.

The thing I'm most impressed with is how Wlad came back after the 5th round known down. I think (me included) thought he'd never be able to do that again. He shouldn't got Joshua out of there in the 5th. Was the 5th scored a 10-8 round? It shouldn't have been, 10-9 IMO. I'm not sure what two sets of judges were scoring. I rewatched it and had Klitschko at least 2 rounds up at the 11th.
That's what impressed me the most as well. What it proved to me is that I was wrong that he had to fight the cautious way, he just did it because he could. I never saw the Pulev fight, I quit watching between haye and Fury.
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Wlad is known for his safety-first style.
All the billions $ in his bank account makes this negative attitude even more desirable.

He wishes to go on with his career so he can keep racking in millions for safety-first, no risk athletic perfs.
The modern Roy Jones version of the heavyweight division.

Just feed him the bottom half of it, and he will fight until he's fifty.

By that time, he might be able to buy a whole country.
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which is exactly why he should hang
them up. last opportunity to get out
of the game with pride and faculties
in tact.
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crow wrote:Wlad is known for his safety-first style.
All the billions $ in his bank account makes this negative attitude even more desirable.

He wishes to go on with his career so he can keep racking in millions for safety-first, no risk athletic perfs.
The modern Roy Jones version of the heavyweight division.

Just feed him the bottom half of it, and he will fight until he's fifty.

By that time, he might be able to buy a whole country.
I don't think he's a billionaire. Plus, I'm pretty sure he's more intelligent than RJJ and Holyfield. I'll think he takes the rematch but I personally want him to retire. If he beats AJ, what next? A third fight, he'll be 42 then.
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Loki wrote:
crow wrote:Wlad is known for his safety-first style.
All the billions $ in his bank account makes this negative attitude even more desirable.

He wishes to go on with his career so he can keep racking in millions for safety-first, no risk athletic perfs.
The modern Roy Jones version of the heavyweight division.

Just feed him the bottom half of it, and he will fight until he's fifty.

By that time, he might be able to buy a whole country.
I don't think he's a billionaire. Plus, I'm pretty sure he's more intelligent than RJJ and Holyfield. I'll think he takes the rematch but I personally want him to retire. If he beats AJ, what next? A third fight, he'll be 42 then.
There's always one more alluring fight on the horizon. I think he's so peeved about letting Joshua off the hook that he'll take the rematch. But I hope he doesn't.
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Loki wrote: I'll think he takes the rematch but I personally want him to retire. If he beats AJ, what next? A third fight, he'll be 42 then.
This was the second fight in a row where Wlad's safety-first approach cost him the title.

He let a young but inexperienced boxer off the hook in a time of crisis, hoping he will unravel later, or hoping for a points win against a champion in his backyard.

Considering how AJ won the overwhelming first part of the fight, Wlad's stupid choice of tactics flies in the face of reality.

The only sense of it is Wlad is scared to trade punches and would rather win on points against a dangerous foe.

He definitely let go by his only chance to beat him.

Wlad will simply never win vs Joshua after showing his fear and demonstrating his inability to adopt a winning strategy.
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Pfft! What does Vitali know?

Even still.... I agree. :D
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crow wrote:
Loki wrote: I'll think he takes the rematch but I personally want him to retire. If he beats AJ, what next? A third fight, he'll be 42 then.
This was the second fight in a row where Wlad's safety-first approach cost him the title.

He let a young but inexperienced boxer off the hook in a time of crisis, hoping he will unravel later, or hoping for a points win against a champion in his backyard.

Considering how AJ won the overwhelming first part of the fight, Wlad's stupid choice of tactics flies in the face of reality.

The only sense of it is Wlad is scared to trade punches and would rather win on points against a dangerous foe.

He definitely let go by his only chance to beat him.

Wlad will simply never win vs Joshua after showing his fear and demonstrating his inability to adopt a winning strategy.
This is a horrible post. First off, AJ didn't win the first part of the fight. It was pretty even and the fifth should've been a 10-9 round even with the knockdown. AJ was in deep trouble after being nailed with a left hook. I don't care what the judges had it as, I had Wlad at least two rounds up going into the 11th.

As for not trading punches, prime Wlad as good enough not to do that, call it boring but technically it's brilliant. Moreover, I don't think there is an arguement about his heart, to come back in the fifth like that was awesome at 41 and that was the problem; age. If it was 2013, AJ wouldn't have made it past 6. Wlad must be kicking himself but he's always stuck to a strategy.
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Loki wrote:
crow wrote:
Loki wrote: I'll think he takes the rematch but I personally want him to retire. If he beats AJ, what next? A third fight, he'll be 42 then.
This was the second fight in a row where Wlad's safety-first approach cost him the title.

He let a young but inexperienced boxer off the hook in a time of crisis, hoping he will unravel later, or hoping for a points win against a champion in his backyard.

Considering how AJ won the overwhelming first part of the fight, Wlad's stupid choice of tactics flies in the face of reality.

The only sense of it is Wlad is scared to trade punches and would rather win on points against a dangerous foe.

He definitely let go by his only chance to beat him.

Wlad will simply never win vs Joshua after showing his fear and demonstrating his inability to adopt a winning strategy.
This is a horrible post. First off, AJ didn't win the first part of the fight. It was pretty even and the fifth should've been a 10-9 round even with the knockdown. AJ was in deep trouble after being nailed with a left hook. I don't care what the judges had it as, I had Wlad at least two rounds up going into the 11th.

As for not trading punches, prime Wlad as good enough not to do that, call it boring but technically it's brilliant. Moreover, I don't think there is an arguement about his heart, to come back in the fifth like that was awesome at 41 and that was the problem; age. If it was 2013, AJ wouldn't have made it past 6. Wlad must be kicking himself but he's always stuck to a strategy.
AJ did win the first part of the fight up until round 5. He landed more punches and Wlad didn`t take chances. In 2013, AJ wouldn`t have had one Fight as a pro and probably Klitschko would have beaten him then ;).
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mjones19851 wrote:
Loki wrote:
crow wrote:
This was the second fight in a row where Wlad's safety-first approach cost him the title.

He let a young but inexperienced boxer off the hook in a time of crisis, hoping he will unravel later, or hoping for a points win against a champion in his backyard.

Considering how AJ won the overwhelming first part of the fight, Wlad's stupid choice of tactics flies in the face of reality.

The only sense of it is Wlad is scared to trade punches and would rather win on points against a dangerous foe.

He definitely let go by his only chance to beat him.

Wlad will simply never win vs Joshua after showing his fear and demonstrating his inability to adopt a winning strategy.
This is a horrible post. First off, AJ didn't win the first part of the fight. It was pretty even and the fifth should've been a 10-9 round even with the knockdown. AJ was in deep trouble after being nailed with a left hook. I don't care what the judges had it as, I had Wlad at least two rounds up going into the 11th.

As for not trading punches, prime Wlad as good enough not to do that, call it boring but technically it's brilliant. Moreover, I don't think there is an arguement about his heart, to come back in the fifth like that was awesome at 41 and that was the problem; age. If it was 2013, AJ wouldn't have made it past 6. Wlad must be kicking himself but he's always stuck to a strategy.
AJ did win the first part of the fight up until round 5. He landed more punches and Wlad didn`t take chances. In 2013, AJ wouldn`t have had one Fight as a pro and probably Klitschko would have beaten him then ;).
Not on my card, I had it two each going into the fifth. Fool, I of course meant the 2013 version of Wlad vs a 2017 version of AJ.
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Loki wrote:
mjones19851 wrote:
Loki wrote:
This is a horrible post. First off, AJ didn't win the first part of the fight. It was pretty even and the fifth should've been a 10-9 round even with the knockdown. AJ was in deep trouble after being nailed with a left hook. I don't care what the judges had it as, I had Wlad at least two rounds up going into the 11th.

As for not trading punches, prime Wlad as good enough not to do that, call it boring but technically it's brilliant. Moreover, I don't think there is an arguement about his heart, to come back in the fifth like that was awesome at 41 and that was the problem; age. If it was 2013, AJ wouldn't have made it past 6. Wlad must be kicking himself but he's always stuck to a strategy.
AJ did win the first part of the fight up until round 5. He landed more punches and Wlad didn`t take chances. In 2013, AJ wouldn`t have had one Fight as a pro and probably Klitschko would have beaten him then ;).
Not on my card, I had it two each going into the fifth. Fool, I of course meant the 2013 version of Wlad vs a 2017 version of AJ.
AJ 2017 is a very young, unexperienced version of whats likely going to be a legend in the future. Of course a Prime Wlad from 2013 has better chances against the unexperienced 2017 AJ Version. If you want to be fair, make it Wlad 2013 vs Joshua 2020, I guess your resume would be different then.
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mjones19851 wrote:
Loki wrote:
mjones19851 wrote:
AJ did win the first part of the fight up until round 5. He landed more punches and Wlad didn`t take chances. In 2013, AJ wouldn`t have had one Fight as a pro and probably Klitschko would have beaten him then ;).
Not on my card, I had it two each going into the fifth. Fool, I of course meant the 2013 version of Wlad vs a 2017 version of AJ.
AJ 2017 is a very young, unexperienced version of whats likely going to be a legend in the future. Of course a Prime Wlad from 2013 has better chances against the unexperienced 2017 AJ Version. If you want to be fair, make it Wlad 2013 vs Joshua 2020, I guess your resume would be different then.
I like AJ and I hope he does dominate now until then but I have some doubts. He's too stationery and his footwork is pretty awful. Of course, he's a powerhouse but I'd like to see him come in at 242lbs top. Let's see what happens in 2020 but I'm pretty sure he'll come a cropper before then. I'm 100% confident his reign will be nowhere near Wlads in terms of length.
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Loki wrote:
mjones19851 wrote:
Loki wrote:
Not on my card, I had it two each going into the fifth. Fool, I of course meant the 2013 version of Wlad vs a 2017 version of AJ.
AJ 2017 is a very young, unexperienced version of whats likely going to be a legend in the future. Of course a Prime Wlad from 2013 has better chances against the unexperienced 2017 AJ Version. If you want to be fair, make it Wlad 2013 vs Joshua 2020, I guess your resume would be different then.
I like AJ and I hope he does dominate now until then but I have some doubts. He's too stationery and his footwork is pretty awful. Of course, he's a powerhouse but I'd like to see him come in at 242lbs top. Let's see what happens in 2020 but I'm pretty sure he'll come a cropper before then. I'm 100% confident his reign will be nowhere near Wlads in terms of length.
Part of what you are saying here is true. He lacks superior footwork and seems to be a little bit vulnerable of getting hit with power punches.
But part of your argument has also been nullified in the fight against Wlad clearly. He has taken a lot of hard punches on the chin, and took it well and even came back stronger. He is mentally strong, because he took his time after the knockdown in the 6th and recovered quite well in the following rounds.
Lets not forget Wlad is the most precise, hard hitting puncher in the HW division. If AJ can take his punches, he can take anyones punches.
Also he seems to be a very humble person who isn`t going to be a victim of drugs or women.

Of course it is very likely that his reign does not last as long as Klitschkos reign.
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