He looked great against Gamboa. Probably moved up the ladder sort of speak.crusader wrote:Castellanos is definitely one of the better 24-12 fighters there's been! Yet another strong comeback after losing...
Oh Teddy Atlas
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Holy hell what were these odds? -4000?
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They were saying Gamboa was a 20-1 favorite.
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Atlas crapped all over the Joshua-Klitschko Fight... Neither is an American so that was not surprising... He said fights like that happened all the time back in the day.. and he compared it to the Foreman Lyle fight.. Really??? George and Ronnie walked into punches.. That was a couple of 4th graders swinging. No footwork.. no defense.. no setting anything up.. no body shots or slick uppercuts.. The winner was decided on who was the less exhausted of the pair which happened to be George.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
Yeah, and 3 years ago some were predicting him beating Crawford ...MachoTime wrote:They were saying Gamboa was a 20-1 favorite.
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Why do you think this is? Did he just forget? Is he just biased against the present? Is he one of those "back in my day.....things were unbelievable, and nowadays they do not have any of the skill"? He seems like a smart guy at times, so its strange to see this strong bias without even explaining deeply why the 'old days' were so great. Happens all the time when it comes to old Basketball players in the NBA. They all think they would average at least 30% + more today then the 'great' old days.Kalan wrote:Atlas crapped all over the Joshua-Klitschko Fight... Neither is an American so that was not surprising... He said fights like that happened all the time back in the day.. and he compared it to the Foreman Lyle fight.. Really??? George and Ronnie walked into punches.. That was a couple of 4th graders swinging. No footwork.. no defense.. no setting anything up.. no body shots or slick uppercuts.. The winner was decided on who was the less exhausted of the pair which happened to be George.
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handsofstone
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
gilgamesh wrote:I like Teddy Atlas on commentary.
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Holding down three jobs as a trainer, a commentator and a fireman can't be easy to be fairhandsofstone wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I like Teddy Atlas on commentary.So do I actually, he's had a few shockers over the years but so have I
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handsofstone
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
Haha bugs on the windshield and water in the basement, he can talk some shite that's for sureStuarty30 wrote:Holding down three jobs as a trainer, a commentator and a fireman can't be easy to be fairhandsofstone wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I like Teddy Atlas on commentary.So do I actually, he's had a few shockers over the years but so have I
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Ramblings of a glue sniffer at times man!handsofstone wrote:Haha bugs on the windshield and water in the basement, he can talk some shite that's for sureStuarty30 wrote:Holding down three jobs as a trainer, a commentator and a fireman can't be easy to be fairhandsofstone wrote:So do I actually, he's had a few shockers over the years but so have I
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Impractical Poster
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
Well, he speaks his mind. I'll give him that.
Anybody else catch when he tried to interrupt Bernard at the end of the telecast and Bernard was having none of it? Atlas has little tact.
Anybody else catch when he tried to interrupt Bernard at the end of the telecast and Bernard was having none of it? Atlas has little tact.
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Thomastearns
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Michael Moorer returns to his corner (Holyfield 1994) to find Teddy Atlas sat on his stool screaming the immortal words.
“…Do you want me to fight? Huh? Do you want me to trade places with you. Do you?..."
In this treacherous sport Atlas has always been on the side of the boxers. His rants against poor judges are legion.
“…Do you want me to fight? Huh? Do you want me to trade places with you. Do you?..."
In this treacherous sport Atlas has always been on the side of the boxers. His rants against poor judges are legion.
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I always looked at is as torture. To have to listen too Atlas Commentary For a entire 3 hours or so on ESPN. I can only handle so much.
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boxingknockout
- Super Lightweight
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
Teddy Atlas is awful in so many ways.... as a boxer, as a commentator, as a trainer. He was lucky to be associated with Tyson and that made his reputation. Luck. Chance.
Atlas is also a liar who retells (fake) stories to make him look good and tough. He's a total bum and a fake
Atlas is also a liar who retells (fake) stories to make him look good and tough. He's a total bum and a fake
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He was actually spot on with his analysis. What Bhop was saying was a bit outrageous.Impractical Poster wrote:Atlas telling Hopkins his insight into Gamboa's inside fighting is completely wrong was pretty outrageous. I'm sure Hops would have loved to smack him upside the head right there.
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He's a loud mouthed biased American and 20th Century partisan who's used to running his yap 90 miles an hour -- with everyone around him praising him and giving him deference. He's a verbal bully who screams at people and they get tired of it.. People love strong leaders, but with Atlas it gets old pretty quick.. He'll never change and a lot of times he's not making a lick of sense. But instead of raising his ire by disagreeing with him (he's supposed to be the expert) his colleges genuflect and move on. There's a lot of punch drunk rowdies in neighborhood bars who know as much as Teddy Atlas.nikos6 wrote:Why do you think this is? Did he just forget? Is he just biased against the present? Is he one of those "back in my day.....things were unbelievable, and nowadays they do not have any of the skill"? He seems like a smart guy at times, so its strange to see this strong bias without even explaining deeply why the 'old days' were so great. Happens all the time when it comes to old Basketball players in the NBA. They all think they would average at least 30% + more today then the 'great' old days.Kalan wrote:Atlas crapped all over the Joshua-Klitschko Fight... Neither is an American so that was not surprising... He said fights like that happened all the time back in the day.. and he compared it to the Foreman Lyle fight.. Really??? George and Ronnie walked into punches.. That was a couple of 4th graders swinging. No footwork.. no defense.. no setting anything up.. no body shots or slick uppercuts.. The winner was decided on who was the less exhausted of the pair which happened to be George.
My guess is he voted for Donald Trump.
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Kalan wrote:He's a loud mouthed biased American and 20th Century partisan who's used to running his yap 90 miles an hour -- with everyone around him praising him and giving him deference. He's a verbal bully who screams at people and they get tired of it.. People love strong leaders, but with Atlas it gets old pretty quick.. He'll never change and a lot of times he's not making a lick of sense. But instead of raising his ire by disagreeing with him (he's supposed to be the expert) his colleges genuflect and move on. There's a lot of punch drunk rowdies in neighborhood bars who know as much as Teddy Atlas.nikos6 wrote:Why do you think this is? Did he just forget? Is he just biased against the present? Is he one of those "back in my day.....things were unbelievable, and nowadays they do not have any of the skill"? He seems like a smart guy at times, so its strange to see this strong bias without even explaining deeply why the 'old days' were so great. Happens all the time when it comes to old Basketball players in the NBA. They all think they would average at least 30% + more today then the 'great' old days.Kalan wrote:Atlas crapped all over the Joshua-Klitschko Fight... Neither is an American so that was not surprising... He said fights like that happened all the time back in the day.. and he compared it to the Foreman Lyle fight.. Really??? George and Ronnie walked into punches.. That was a couple of 4th graders swinging. No footwork.. no defense.. no setting anything up.. no body shots or slick uppercuts.. The winner was decided on who was the less exhausted of the pair which happened to be George.
My guess is he voted for Donald Trump.
Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
I actually admire Teddy for standing up for his opinion even when unpopular, or not PR.Impractical Poster wrote:Well, he speaks his mind. I'll give him that.
Anybody else catch when he tried to interrupt Bernard at the end of the telecast and Bernard was having none of it? Atlas has little tact.
Bernard is used to get a free leash by the medias to promote his achievements and regularly goes overboard.
Here's a clip of Atlas putting him back into his place.
I've actually never seen someone stand up to Bernard's bullshit mano o mano, win the argument without a doubt and shut him up like Atlas did.
So even if he's a flawed human being, and likes, like Bernard, to promote himself, i find myself agreeing with his opinions 85% of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZxS9JgxOQ
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Impractical Poster
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
What I saw in that interview was Teddy getting called out for being wrong on a prediction he made and trying his best to discredit Hopkins opponent after the fact. If Teddy knew the shortcomings of Pascal, why did he predict a win for Pascal? It was not until after Bernard won that Teddy starts on about how a 70 year old could have avoided those shots. So, Bernard was right that he made Pascal fight his fight. Teddy was just trying to save face. Douche move.crow wrote:I actually admire Teddy for standing up for his opinion even when unpopular, or not PR.Impractical Poster wrote:Well, he speaks his mind. I'll give him that.
Anybody else catch when he tried to interrupt Bernard at the end of the telecast and Bernard was having none of it? Atlas has little tact.
Bernard is used to get a free leash by the medias to promote his achievements and regularly goes overboard.
Here's a clip of Atlas putting him back into his place.
I've actually never seen someone stand up to Bernard's bullshit mano o mano, win the argument without a doubt and shut him up like Atlas did.
So even if he's a flawed human being, and likes, like Bernard, to promote himself, i find myself agreeing with his opinions 85% of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZxS9JgxOQ
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
He certainly wasn't screaming about top guys taking mismatches and ducking big fights when he was with Povetkin.
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I remember that prediction, fight, and discussion. BHop TKO 1. Teddy whining about the bitch slapping he was forced to endure.Impractical Poster wrote:What I saw in that interview was Teddy getting called out for being wrong on a prediction he made and trying his best to discredit Hopkins opponent after the fact. If Teddy knew the shortcomings of Pascal, why did he predict a win for Pascal? It was not until after Bernard won that Teddy starts on about how a 70 year old could have avoided those shots. So, Bernard was right that he made Pascal fight his fight. Teddy was just trying to save face. Douche move.crow wrote:I actually admire Teddy for standing up for his opinion even when unpopular, or not PR.Impractical Poster wrote:Well, he speaks his mind. I'll give him that.
Anybody else catch when he tried to interrupt Bernard at the end of the telecast and Bernard was having none of it? Atlas has little tact.
Bernard is used to get a free leash by the medias to promote his achievements and regularly goes overboard.
Here's a clip of Atlas putting him back into his place.
I've actually never seen someone stand up to Bernard's bullshit mano o mano, win the argument without a doubt and shut him up like Atlas did.
So even if he's a flawed human being, and likes, like Bernard, to promote himself, i find myself agreeing with his opinions 85% of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZxS9JgxOQ
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You guys can see in it what you want.
But you can't deny Teddy was having Bernard stuttering and out of arguments by the end of their conversation, lol.
But you can't deny Teddy was having Bernard stuttering and out of arguments by the end of their conversation, lol.
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I am one, like you, who does not mind Atlas. He puts it out there candidly, like it or not.crow wrote:You guys can see in it what you want.
But you can't deny Teddy was having Bernard stuttering and out of arguments by the end of their conversation, lol.
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Impractical Poster
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Re: Oh Teddy Atlas
I can appreciate that quality. But it is misplaced a lot of times. Simply put, he will not admit being wrong. And if he does, there is always a "but...". Dude, just shut up.Tanzio wrote:I am one, like you, who does not mind Atlas. He puts it out there candidly, like it or not.crow wrote:You guys can see in it what you want.
But you can't deny Teddy was having Bernard stuttering and out of arguments by the end of their conversation, lol.
In that instance, in the case above Teddy was wrong. Wrong points can be argued to look right. Happens all the time. And it fools some people. Atlas had picked Pascal to win because he thought he had the tools to beat Hopkins. Hopkins proved him wrong. Atlas is acting like Pascal fights like he did against Hops all the time. Hops made him fight like that. End of story. Just because Atlas won't let things go and can potentially argue better than Hopkins doesn't make him right.
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True.Impractical Poster wrote:I can appreciate that quality. But it is misplaced a lot of times. Simply put, he will not admit being wrong. And if he does, there is always a "but...". Dude, just shut up.Tanzio wrote:I am one, like you, who does not mind Atlas. He puts it out there candidly, like it or not.crow wrote:You guys can see in it what you want.
But you can't deny Teddy was having Bernard stuttering and out of arguments by the end of their conversation, lol.
In that instance, in the case above Teddy was wrong. Wrong points can be argued to look right. Happens all the time. And it fools some people. Atlas had picked Pascal to win because he thought he had the tools to beat Hopkins. Hopkins proved him wrong. Atlas is acting like Pascal fights like he did against Hops all the time. Hops made him fight like that. End of story. Just because Atlas won't let things go and can potentially argue better than Hopkins doesn't make him right.