Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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Warrington vs. Martinez Winner and How?

Poll ended at 14 Feb 2017, 17:40

Josh Warrington Stoppage
12
20%
Josh Warrington Decision
31
52%
Draw
1
2%
Kiko Martinez Decision
5
8%
Kiko Martinez Stoppage
11
18%
 
Total votes: 60

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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by rossij8 »

Deslioni wrote:I had Martinez by 2, the usually loud crowd told the story for me. Warrington has shown he is euro level at beat
I dunno, Warrington boxed nicely on the back foot

I thought he might tire with body shots but didn't

Fair result - step up, interesting
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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MightyWarrior wrote:Bunce overstepping the mark, thinks he's franks matchmaker now
Frank should sack him, he's already got Gary Russell Jr booked in as an easy fight!
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Ryan Walsh, Kid Galahad, Issac Lowe or Dennis Ceylan next would keep Warrington ticking over...
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by rossij8 »

mickey1975 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Bunce overstepping the mark, thinks he's franks matchmaker now
Frank should sack him, he's already got Gary Russell Jr booked in as an easy fight!
No way

We want against the grain - BN / BT team top notch - remembering past posts on here about the best combinations of presentators/ commentators/ pundits - its here!

Edit - Ian Darke full set
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

wesshaw1985 wrote:Ryan Walsh, Kid Galahad, Issac Lowe or Dennis Ceylan next would keep Warrington ticking over...
Not a certainty he beats all those guys. I'd certainly take Galahad to beat Warrington.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by ShadrachSimmo »

Deslioni wrote:I had Martinez by 2, the usually loud crowd told the story for me. Warrington has shown he is euro level at beat
I thought it was close to being a draw but didn't score it. Kiko is a great servant to boxing. He proved that you can get there with determination he's no Sweetpea but he's a hard wee fornicator.

Warrington will never match the level Martinez achieved. I feel.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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rossij8 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Bunce overstepping the mark, thinks he's franks matchmaker now
Frank should sack him, he's already got Gary Russell Jr booked in as an easy fight!
No way

We want against the grain - BN / BT team top notch - remembering past posts on here about the best combinations of presentators/ commentators/ pundits - its here!

Edit - Ian Darke full set
Yep, BN/BT combo is excellent, even the sideshow comedy value of Ronald McDonald as light relief works ...A million times better than the sky boxing horror shows
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by ShadrachSimmo »

wesshaw1985 wrote:Ryan Walsh, Kid Galahad, Issac Lowe or Dennis Ceylan next would keep Warrington ticking over...
Steady there Wes he's not the Yorkshire Sven Ottke just yet :stop:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Stuarty30 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:Ryan Walsh, Kid Galahad, Issac Lowe or Dennis Ceylan next would keep Warrington ticking over...
Not a certainty he beats all those guys. I'd certainly take Galahad to beat Warrington.
if he doesn't step up to World Title level then these guys are the next rung down.
Ex Quigg and Selby opponents - Simion? Cayetano? Gago? Hunter? Gradovich?
He cant piss off the Leeds crowd by fighting absolute bums.
Featherweight is a tough division...
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

wesshaw1985 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:Ryan Walsh, Kid Galahad, Issac Lowe or Dennis Ceylan next would keep Warrington ticking over...
Not a certainty he beats all those guys. I'd certainly take Galahad to beat Warrington.
if he doesn't step up to World Title level then these guys are the next rung down.
Ex Quigg and Selby opponents - Simion? Cayetano? Gago? Hunter? Gradovich?
He cant piss off the Leeds crowd by fighting absolute bums.
Featherweight is a tough division...
Very tough. All the champs and firinge guys like Frampton, Quigg, Barros, Mares, Cuellar, Marraigga all beat him no problems IMO.

There's still some cracking fights for him at Euro, domestic, international level though :TU:
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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If I were Warrington's matchmaker, I'd be looking at someone like Gradovich next. Gradovich could be billed as another former world champ and has only lost twice, but he's looked in poor form lately (3 years since he won by a method other than SD or MD) and shouldn't be a major risk. Would the Leeds fans be discerning enough to recognize Gradovich's current form, or the fact that he was handily beaten by Selby?

Warrington is a vulnerable fighter and at this point needs to be moved fairly carefully
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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crusader wrote:If I were Warrington's matchmaker, I'd be looking at someone like Gradovich next. Gradovich could be billed as another former world champ and has only lost twice, but he's looked in poor form lately and shouldn't be a major risk. Would the Leeds fans be discerning enough to recognize Gradovich's current form, or the fact that he was handily beaten by Selby?

Warrington is a vulnerable fighter if matched EBU level or higher
Kiko five years ago would have beaten Warrington into the canvas IMO. Or at the very least totally bossed him.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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I agree. Even this diminished Kiko fought on pretty much even terms with him...
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Twinkle Toes »

Warrington has a good engine and has youth on his side, but at times he looked uncomfortable in there. Even with Martinez on the slide, it was a tough nights work.

I can't see them taking too many risks with him for a while yet.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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rossij8 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Bunce overstepping the mark, thinks he's franks matchmaker now
Frank should sack him, he's already got Gary Russell Jr booked in as an easy fight!
No way

We want against the grain - BN / BT team top notch - remembering past posts on here about the best combinations of presentators/ commentators/ pundits - its here!

Edit - Ian Darke full set
best quote of the night came from dempsey when he said to bunce and jones "I've hardly learnt anything from you two over the years" and then asked them a question! :lol: :lol:

it's great viewing, dempsey just doesnt give a fk, he drills down and gets to the gold straight away and keeps bunce on his toes. thing is, it raises bunce to a new level too, because he's best when he's put on the spot. you cant let bunce go on a rant, like he does on BN with jones, because then he ends up being the whole show. dempsey has made a huge difference
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by TheCobra »

I actually had it 116-112 Warrington. I thought Woodhall in particular was calling it a bit closer than it actually was.

They were shouting a lot for Martinez's big shots but I saw Warrington chipping away nicely and putting rounds in the bank. I definitely didn't see it 114-114 or anything like that, even though Martinez did have a few big rounds - a draw would have been harsh on Warrington. The crowd did go really quiet at times and you could tell Warrington got hurt, but that's the problem when you've got no power, people can just march through you and land their big shots.

Shame for Warrington he's got no power as he has decent other attributes, decent footwork and movement, decent chin as proved last night and tidy boxing skills, but just no power. Any of the top guys will walk through him.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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veriton wrote:
rossij8 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote: Frank should sack him, he's already got Gary Russell Jr booked in as an easy fight!
No way

We want against the grain - BN / BT team top notch - remembering past posts on here about the best combinations of presentators/ commentators/ pundits - its here!

Edit - Ian Darke full set
best quote of the night came from dempsey when he said to bunce and jones "I've hardly learnt anything from you two over the years" and then asked them a question! :lol: :lol:

it's great viewing, dempsey just doesnt give a fk, he drills down and gets to the gold straight away and keeps bunce on his toes. thing is, it raises bunce to a new level too, because he's best when he's put on the spot. you cant let bunce go on a rant, like he does on BN with jones, because then he ends up being the whole show. dempsey has made a huge difference
Totally agree, Dempsey, even though he looks like Bert from the muppets, does a good job, he forces Buncey to be alert and coherent.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Does anyone even give Warrington a remote chance against Selby after last night?
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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Boxerbeetle wrote:Does anyone even give Warrington a remote chance against Selby after last night?
Yes.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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Boxerbeetle wrote:Does anyone even give Warrington a remote chance against Selby after last night?
Even before last night, I wouldn't have given him much of a chance. He has very little power to trouble Selby.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Oiky »

Warrington got no hope against selby
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

Horse wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Does anyone even give Warrington a remote chance against Selby after last night?
Yes.
Absolutely not. Selby would box his head off!
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

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Stuarty30 wrote:Absolutely not. Selby would box his head off!
Selby is overrated.
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Re: Round-By-Round - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - May 13th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Absolutely not. Selby would box his head off!
Selby is overrated.
Yes and no. He's a bit of an enigma is Selby. When he's on song he's fantastic to watch but can make things difficult for himself. I think he'd box rings round Warrington though. Warrington has no power to dishearten Selby and ability wise they're leagues apart. I'd fancy Selby to take a wide decision 9/3-10/2 region.
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