Some infos about Jacobs weight

[apollo creed]

“I predict Danny will be between 178-180 when he steps into the ring. He was at 176 at 8 a.m. this morning. Don’t be surprised if Danny does very well this evening. He had a tremendous training camp on the west coast. He spent the last four weeks of his training camp at my SNAC training facility in San Carlos, California. He is in the best shape of his life. He will be huge tonight when he steps into the ring! Danny will be big, fast and powerful. We will soon see how this all plays out.” said Victor Conte

I have a strong feeling that Jacobs was around 185-190 lbs on fight night if he was 176 lbs at 8 a.m. Not to mention that being able to take GGG's best punches, it must have to do something with Conte.

[jezzamundo]

I would guess 180lb is probably near the mark. The heaviest Chavez Jr was ever officially weighed at fight night is 181lb I believe, doubt Jacobs was over that. Considering he was 176lb on the morning, a further gain of 4lb sounds about right.

[apollo creed]

I would guess 180lb is probably near the mark. The heaviest Chavez Jr was ever officially weighed at fight night is 181lb I believe, doubt Jacobs was over that. Considering he was 176lb on the morning, a further gain of 4lb sounds about right.

GGG weighed 169.6 lbs on fight night. Jacobs looked big, around 10-15 lbs over GGG's ring weight I guess.

[Counter-puncher]

I would guess 180lb is probably near the mark. The heaviest Chavez Jr was ever officially weighed at fight night is 181lb I believe, doubt Jacobs was over that. Considering he was 176lb on the morning, a further gain of 4lb sounds about right.

If he was indeed 176 in the morning personally, I would expect more than 4lbs gain over the rest of the day

He was fricken huge we can all agree on that

[caldo2025]

Why would anyone want to be associated with Victor Conte? The godfather of performance enhancement and doping. Is that the guy that you want to be speaking on your behalf? Sketchy for Jacobs to say the least.

Does GGG continue to honor the IBF's weigh in guidelines after stepping in the ring at such a size disadvantage with Jacobs?

[jezzamundo]

I would guess 180lb is probably near the mark. The heaviest Chavez Jr was ever officially weighed at fight night is 181lb I believe, doubt Jacobs was over that. Considering he was 176lb on the morning, a further gain of 4lb sounds about right.

GGG weighed 169.6 lbs on fight night. Jacobs looked big, around 10-15 lbs over GGG's ring weight I guess.

I doubt the difference was that much - Jacobs was taller, but GGG looked broader. I believe your figure for GGG was his weight on the morning of the fight, so I'd guess his fight night weight was around 173-174lb, which is in line with the heaviest he has weighed on fight night in the past.

[apollo creed]

I would guess 180lb is probably near the mark. The heaviest Chavez Jr was ever officially weighed at fight night is 181lb I believe, doubt Jacobs was over that. Considering he was 176lb on the morning, a further gain of 4lb sounds about right.

If he was indeed 176 in the morning personally, I would expect more than 4lbs gain over the rest of the day

He was fricken huge we can all agree on that

Yup , he looked pretty big. More like a SMW.

[apollo creed]

Why would anyone want to be associated with Victor Conte? The godfather of performance enhancement and doping. Is that the guy that you want to be speaking on your behalf? Sketchy for Jacobs to say the least.

Does GGG continue to honor the IBF's weigh in guidelines after stepping in the ring at such a size disadvantage with Jacobs?

Conte has those secret nutrition recipes.

[Blodhemn]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

[jezzamundo]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

GGG got the nod in a close fight, but everyone is so used to him dominating that anything other than a dominant KO win is viewed as a disappointing performance, despite the fact that Jacobs was clearly the best opponent of his career.

By forgoing the IBF same day weigh in, Jacobs forgoed the opportunity to win one belt, in exchange for getting more sleep and being able to take a small weight advantage into the ring. Unfair - a little, illegal - nope.

I don't think GGG looked lazy - he threw over 50 punched per round which was more than Jacobs. He did look quite cautious, which was no doubt due to Jacobs' power and superior handicapped, not to mention Jacobs' great defensive footwork.

[caldo2025]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

GGG went into that fight with a clear disadvantage in terms of weight allowance in what is supposed to be a fair fight. It's a flaw in boxing right now that the IBF continues to put their champions in unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements when the challengers to the title do not.

Jacobs and his team had two surprises for GGG and his team: 1 was the fact that they didn't want the IBF title and wanted to outweigh GGG by as much as possible. 2 was that Jacobs would fight southpaw and confuse GGG completely. Both surprises were hugely effective and Jacobs still lost the fight. So that just shows how good GGG is. But Jacobs almost pulled it off. Who knows what Conte gave him for supplements too.

[verlichte]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

GGG went into that fight with a clear disadvantage in terms of weight allowance in what is supposed to be a fair fight. It's a flaw in boxing right now that the IBF continues to put their champions in unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements when the challengers to the title do not.

Jacobs and his team had two surprises for GGG and his team: 1 was the fact that they didn't want the IBF title and wanted to outweigh GGG by as much as possible. 2 was that Jacobs would fight southpaw and confuse GGG completely. Both surprises were hugely effective and Jacobs still lost the fight. So that just shows how good GGG is. But Jacobs almost pulled it off. Who knows what Conte gave him for supplements too.

To be perfectly honest with you, I am supremely confident that the issue of “weight” would have been discussed during the contract negotiations between the representatives of both Golovkin & Jacobs, since the IBF’s rules are very strict, coupled with the fact that the fight was only mandated by the WBA.

Team GGG, being on the proverbial A-side during the contract discussions, would not have made any concessions that they were uncomfortable with.

If it was deemed important by Abel Sanchez and Gennady Golovkin, that Daniel Jacobs adhere to the IBF’s strict weigh-in rules, then Tom Loeffler would have almost certainly included this demand amongst the other various contractual stipulations.

The fact that they clearly did not… and nor did anyone from Golovkin’s team complain about Daniel Jacobs’ refusal to compete for the IBF title, means that the American’s action was regarded as a non-issue for Team GGG.

Therefore, I don’t believe that Abel Sanchez or Gennady Golovkin would have been surprised about Daniel Jacobs’ refusal to participation in the IBF’s 10lbs morning-of-the-fight weigh-in.

Simply put: the IBF didn’t put Gennady in “unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements” against an opponent that refused to abide by the same weigh-in rules, since GGG's team essentially agreed to allow Daniel Jacobs to do this.

[walshb]

How advisable is it for these boxers to be gaining so much weight the day after weigh in? Is it helping or hindering them? Most of it is just forced food and liquids. There should be no physical need to gain 20 lbs between weigh in and ring time. a guy like Jacobs should be gaining 8-10 lbs max.

[boxing_rocks]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

GGG went into that fight with a clear disadvantage in terms of weight allowance in what is supposed to be a fair fight. It's a flaw in boxing right now that the IBF continues to put their champions in unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements when the challengers to the title do not.

Jacobs and his team had two surprises for GGG and his team: 1 was the fact that they didn't want the IBF title and wanted to outweigh GGG by as much as possible. 2 was that Jacobs would fight southpaw and confuse GGG completely. Both surprises were hugely effective and Jacobs still lost the fight. So that just shows how good GGG is. But Jacobs almost pulled it off. Who knows what Conte gave him for supplements too.

To be perfectly honest with you, I am supremely confident that the issue of “weight” would have been discussed during the contract negotiations between the representatives of both Golovkin & Jacobs, since the IBF’s rules are very strict, coupled with the fact that the fight was only mandated by the WBA.

Team GGG, being on the proverbial A-side during the contract discussions, would not have made any concessions that they were uncomfortable with.

If it was deemed important by Abel Sanchez and Gennady Golovkin, that Daniel Jacobs adhere to the IBF’s strict weigh-in rules, then Tom Loeffler would have almost certainly included this demand amongst the other various contractual stipulations.

The fact that they clearly did not… and nor did anyone from Golovkin’s team complain about Daniel Jacobs’ refusal to compete for the IBF title, means that the American’s action was regarded as a non-issue for Team GGG.

Therefore, I don’t believe that Abel Sanchez or Gennady Golovkin would have been surprised about Daniel Jacobs’ refusal to participation in the IBF’s 10lbs morning-of-the-fight weigh-in.

Simply put: the IBF didn’t put Gennady in “unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements” against an opponent that refused to abide by the same weigh-in rules, since GGG's team essentially agreed to allow Daniel Jacobs to do this.

Team GGG could not dictate conditions or the Jacobs fight would fall through like it did in December to say nothing of years when Jacobs was ducking GGG.

[verlichte]

Team GGG could not dictate conditions

So the A-side could not dictate terms to the B-side?

... or the Jacobs fight would fall through like it did in December

Tom Loeffler requested that the WBA immediately order purse bids for the bout, a couple of weeks before the WBA's contract negotiation deadline, as this would have allowed GGG to receive a 75% purse split, instead of the 59% that he eventually received.

...to say nothing of years when Jacobs was ducking GGG.

There is no evidence of K2 ever attempting to orchestrate a bout between Gennady Golovkin and Daniel Jacobs prior to the WBA ordering the mandatory bout during October of last year.

[boxing_rocks]

Buzz off, annoying idiot.

[verlichte]

Buzz off, annoying idiot.

You respond to my post - I respond to yours. That's how forums work... annoying idiot!

[apollo creed]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

GGG went into that fight with a clear disadvantage in terms of weight allowance in what is supposed to be a fair fight. It's a flaw in boxing right now that the IBF continues to put their champions in unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements when the challengers to the title do not.

Jacobs and his team had two surprises for GGG and his team: 1 was the fact that they didn't want the IBF title and wanted to outweigh GGG by as much as possible. 2 was that Jacobs would fight southpaw and confuse GGG completely. Both surprises were hugely effective and Jacobs still lost the fight. So that just shows how good GGG is. But Jacobs almost pulled it off. Who knows what Conte gave him for supplements too.

GGG is a damn good boxer. Jacobs had almost all advantages i.e size, weight, his home turf and possible some secret nutrition and he still lost.

[boxing_rocks]

Buzz off, annoying idiot.

You respond to my post - I respond to yours. That's how forums work... annoying idiot!

No, you don't respond, as you don't listen to others' arguments.

So the A-side could not dictate terms to the B-side?

That's exactly my point. For GGG, it is a huge success to lure a good fighter in a ring with him. They have to do all possible concessions starting with undeserved high purse splits to the "B side"s in order to just secure a fight.

[verlichte]

Buzz off, annoying idiot.

You respond to my post - I respond to yours. That's how forums work... annoying idiot!

No, you don't respond, as you don't listen to others' arguments.

So the A-side could not dictate terms to the B-side?

That's exactly my point. For GGG, it is a huge success to lure a good fighter in a ring with him. They have to do all possible concessions starting with undeserved high purse splits to the "B side"s in order to just secure a fight.

Everything about your comments in that post is wrong, to the point of being insanely irrational.

[boxing_rocks]

Yep, your tiny brain can only comprehend one dimension, i.e A > B.

[diddy]

He was 180 at very least. Probably 182-185.

[Kalan]

At least 182-185... The rest of the above story said... "Conte said he knew Friday night Jacobs would not be doing the morning of weight check, for the record.

Indeed. Smartly played, perhaps, on paper by Jacobs. He can win four other belts off Golovkin tonight, so missing one wouldn’t wreck his mood.

Now, should the sport be allowing one man to be a cruiserweight and his foe a super middleweight on fight night? I would say ideally no. Maybe time for all the sanctioning bodies to follow the IBF and institute the day of weight cap. Then again, a fighter could still gain a bunch of weight in the 12 hours between the morning and late night start of their bout.

In short, this is Boxing. Problems are easy to find -- solutions less so.

[caldo2025]

Why do people keep going on about Jacobs size? An excuse for GGG? Thought GGG was supposed to punch like a HW? He hurt Jacobs on several occasions, so that wasn't the problem, moreso GGG looked lazy and didn't press the issue.

GGG went into that fight with a clear disadvantage in terms of weight allowance in what is supposed to be a fair fight. It's a flaw in boxing right now that the IBF continues to put their champions in unsafe conditions by adhering to the day of weight limit requirements when the challengers to the title do not.

Jacobs and his team had two surprises for GGG and his team: 1 was the fact that they didn't want the IBF title and wanted to outweigh GGG by as much as possible. 2 was that Jacobs would fight southpaw and confuse GGG completely. Both surprises were hugely effective and Jacobs still lost the fight. So that just shows how good GGG is. But Jacobs almost pulled it off. Who knows what Conte gave him for supplements too.

To be perfectly honest with you, I am supremely confident that the issue of “weight” would have been discussed during the contract negotiations between the representatives of both Golovkin & Jacobs, since the IBF’s rules are very strict, coupled with the fact that the fight was only mandated by the WBA.

Team GGG, being on the proverbial A-side during the contract discussions, would not have made any concessions that they were uncomfortable with.

If it was deemed important by Abel Sanchez and Gennady Golovkin, that Daniel Jacobs adhere to the IBF’s strict weigh-in rules, then Tom Loeffler would have almost certainly included this demand amongst the other various contractual stipulations.

For someone that demands proof for anything they see on this site, you sure have NOTHING to bring to the table with the accusation above. How you could be supremely confident is ridiculous when you consider quotes from both boxers about the situation:

Golovkin, who successfully defended his WBA, WBC and IBO titles by beating Jacobs, never considered skipping the IBF’s second-day weigh-in. “It’s his problem,” Golovkin said. “I respect my sport. I respect boxing. This IBF [situation], it’s his problem, not mine. It doesn’t matter to me.” The 34-year-old Golovkin added, though, that he wasn’t angry at Jacobs for missing the second-day weigh-in. The 6-feet Jacobs acknowledged that he missed it because he wanted to make sure he had a significant size advantage of the 5-feet-10 Golovkin. “It wasn’t really me being disrespectful,” Jacobs said of skipping the second-day weigh-in. “It’s my prerogative to wanna get up at 6, 7 o’clock in the morning to do a weigh-in, and be restricted to 170 pounds. So it was mainly me just wanting to stay hydrated and not have to focus on the little things, even though I respect this boxing game. I respect all [sanctioning bodies] and their rulings. “But for me, I really wanted to focus on this fight. And we had a game plan. We wanted to make sure we used our size and we had the best possible nutrition that we can. And waking up early, for me, was just a hard thing to do. Not because we were overweight, but I didn’t wanna have an issue whatsoever.” - See more at: http://www.BS.com/jacobs-expla ... CTtaE.dpuf


GGG and his Team had no idea until after the first weight in that Jacobs was going to be so unprofessional. That is what it is, make no mistake about it. To a man, those that mean something in this sport, they have to same opinion about the boxers trying to get unfair advantages by blowing off the IBF weigh in. It's unprofessional.[/quote]

[caldo2025]

At least 182-185... The rest of the above story said... "Conte said he knew Friday night Jacobs would not be doing the morning of weight check, for the record.

Indeed. Smartly played, perhaps, on paper by Jacobs. He can win four other belts off Golovkin tonight, so missing one wouldn’t wreck his mood.

Now, should the sport be allowing one man to be a cruiserweight and his foe a super middleweight on fight night? I would say ideally no. Maybe time for all the sanctioning bodies to follow the IBF and institute the day of weight cap. Then again, a fighter could still gain a bunch of weight in the 12 hours between the morning and late night start of their bout.

In short, this is Boxing. Problems are easy to find -- solutions less so.

This statement above is the bottom line to me and well put.