The WBC will do ‘whatever it takes’ to make Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder

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The WBC will do ‘whatever it takes’ to make Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder

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"The WBC will do ‘whatever it takes’ to make Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder"

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman told Boxing News that he would like to see Deontay Wilder and Joshua fight for the WBC heavyweight crown. “That would be a huge fight. Wilder is a great champion and he likes to be active and that would be a tremendous fight. We will support it.”

He continued, “Wilder has a mandatory and I don’t know what’s the status of Joshua. Being champion he’s got two other titles and he might have a mandatory, I don’t know. But I’m sure eventually it will happen. We will do whatever it takes to make it happen.”

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It appears as inevitable that the WBC will recognise Anthony Joshua in their rankings in the short-term and elevate him as Deontay Wilder’s mandatory challenger as soon as the American has disposed of the past-his-prime never-that-good-in-the-first-place Bermane Stiverne.

It seems that the WBC are intent on trying to maximise the revenue generated from their sanctioning fees, much akin to how they promoted Gennady Golovkin to become Miguel Cotto’s mandatory challenger (by deciding to sanction the Rubio-GGG bout as a title unification), by trying to attract 3% of the massive paydays that Wladimir Klitschko & Anthony Joshua bring to the table.

Put it this way, if the Joshu-Klitschko bout was sanctioned by the WBC, Mauricio Sulaiman’s organisation would have raked in a guaranteed minimum of $1.2m.

So it seems that the WBC lose interest in their champions and their own rules if they can attract bigger names (paying bigger sanctioning fees) from other organisations to hold their titles.

Look at how the WBC decided to create a special ‘Cinco de Mayo’ title for the Canelo-Chavez Jr. bout that was fought at 164½lbs, despite being told beforehand that their involvement was not required… and then they feigned outrage when Alvarez refused to recognise their commemorative belt and pay their sanctioning fees.
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Re: The WBC will do ‘whatever it takes’ to make Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder

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Lol, so they actually help Wilder to ignore all the Povetkins, Ortiz, Parker, Takam, Pulev, Whyte, Breazeale, Miller, Jun Long Zhang, Klitschko, name them and move all the way up to Joshua straight away? Oke, nice... They just sell out their bum now I guess.
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I actually like this fight a lot. I think that it should be an eliminator for a fight with Joshua. This would create quite a stir in the heavyweight division and we'd be that much closer to a unified champion after all.

If Wilder defeats WK and does it in a better fashion that Joshua did then it would really beef up the Wilder/Joshua fight. To me, THE fight to make in the division is Wilder and Joshua. I know how well WK did against Joshua and it was a great event for boxing but here we have two young athletic heavyweight boxers that throw bombs, that could stage a series of fights over the years to enjoy. This is how the division used to be. I can see it now, Wilder/Joshua III. It's going to be way better than most people think because I think that Wilder has way more ability than folks on this site give him credit for. Yes, he's fought bums for the most part, but he's showed me enough skills to know he's credible enough to beat Joshua. Especially after seeing how Joshua struggled with a 41 year old.

We don't need to see a rematch with Wlad and Joshua. We need some excitement between the players that will be fighting it out over the next 5-10 years. Now is the time.
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Strap season baby!
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#givethepeoplewhattheywant
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marvelous marv wrote:#givethepeoplewhattheywant
Exactly and that's not a bumfighter vs a top contender, let Wilder fight Povetkin first, or just in case Klitschko, but ofcourse not Joshua lol.
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I guess Wilder is old enough for Haymon to cash out. Would be a good fight.
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caldo2025 wrote:I actually like this fight a lot. I think that it should be an eliminator for a fight with Joshua. This would create quite a stir in the heavyweight division and we'd be that much closer to a unified champion after all.

If Wilder defeats WK and does it in a better fashion that Joshua did then it would really beef up the Wilder/Joshua fight. To me, THE fight to make in the division is Wilder and Joshua. I know how well WK did against Joshua and it was a great event for boxing but here we have two young athletic heavyweight boxers that throw bombs, that could stage a series of fights over the years to enjoy. This is how the division used to be. I can see it now, Wilder/Joshua III. It's going to be way better than most people think because I think that Wilder has way more ability than folks on this site give him credit for. Yes, he's fought bums for the most part, but he's showed me enough skills to know he's credible enough to beat Joshua. Especially after seeing how Joshua struggled with a 41 year old.

We don't need to see a rematch with Wlad and Joshua. We need some excitement between the players that will be fighting it out over the next 5-10 years. Now is the time.
Of course it would be a fantastic match, far more intriguing even than the Joshua rematch ... but, and it's a very big but, ... a Kim Kardashian size but ... I don't want to piss on your fries Caldo, but why would Klitschko fight Wilder for a good purse, when losing would mean dumping the Joshua fight, and the mega payday that goes with it, in the trash?

Wilder and Klitschko are a massive risk for each other. Wilder could return from a defeat but if Klitschko fights again it will probably be for the last time if he loses, and possibly even if he wins. If he decides to fight one more time it'll be for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, or should that be ... at the end of Wembley Way?
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Re: The WBC will do ‘whatever it takes’ to make Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder

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The WBC knows that Joshua is the best and they want the best champions. They also want the higher sanctioning fee from the percentage of a larger purse and the popularity of Joshua in Great Britain. First, Klitschko has to decide whether he wants a rematch with Joshua and I think he will. I think Klitschko would rather avenge his defeat to the best heavyweight rather than fight Wilder for the WBC belt and less money.
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Sorry to sound pedantic but the WBC are not remotely interested in Joshua because he is (arguably) the best, they simply have their greedy eyes on what they could make from sanctioning his fights.

Up until now they have championed Wilder because he is a world class American heavyweight or the nearest thing the Americans have to a world class heavyweight. Heavyweights are where the money is, and the USA is (even allowing for the recent and possibly temporary shift to the UK) the spiritual home of boxing and heavyweight boxing in particular. The WBC are very comfortable with US domination, they have established themselves as the senior sanctioning body, and operated very successfully in relation to fights at NY, Las Vegas, Atlantic City etc., challenged only by the existence of the WBA and advent of more recent sanctioning bodies.

It may be they don't have the same affection for Moscow and trust that they would be free to thrive if Moscow were where the power lay by virtue of Povetkin having won the WBC title. It' s pure hypothesy on my part but might they not regard it as fortuitous were something to occur to prevent such an eventuality, say for example if Povetkin were to fall foul of a completely fair and unbiased, and not politically motivated at all, drug test?

Anyway that's one problem in the rear view mirror, now how to solve this issue of all these lucrative fights in the UK - 90,000 at Wembley ffs, and the WBC unable to get their greedy little mits on any of the dosh?

Well why not make a start by matching money-man Joshua with our own champion, it's a win/win whoever prevails. Joshua wants our belt, we want the sanctioning fees, and if he loses we've lost nothing, we go on as we have and maybe Wilder has shown he is good enough to defend his title without our continuing assistance (now we can scrap plans for Wilder v Arreola II)

The only problem is how to rank Joshua when he is a champion recognized by other sanctioning bodies. We don't do that do we, hell there may even be a rule about it. What the hell they're our rules we can change them in cases of extreme expediency.

It'd serve these bloodsucking bastards right if Wilder and Joshua were to give up their belts and fight for what every boxing fan knows to be the World Heavyweight title, free from the meddling of any of the alphabet parasites.

Now wouldn't that be something?
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candyslim wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I actually like this fight a lot. I think that it should be an eliminator for a fight with Joshua. This would create quite a stir in the heavyweight division and we'd be that much closer to a unified champion after all.

If Wilder defeats WK and does it in a better fashion that Joshua did then it would really beef up the Wilder/Joshua fight. To me, THE fight to make in the division is Wilder and Joshua. I know how well WK did against Joshua and it was a great event for boxing but here we have two young athletic heavyweight boxers that throw bombs, that could stage a series of fights over the years to enjoy. This is how the division used to be. I can see it now, Wilder/Joshua III. It's going to be way better than most people think because I think that Wilder has way more ability than folks on this site give him credit for. Yes, he's fought bums for the most part, but he's showed me enough skills to know he's credible enough to beat Joshua. Especially after seeing how Joshua struggled with a 41 year old.

We don't need to see a rematch with Wlad and Joshua. We need some excitement between the players that will be fighting it out over the next 5-10 years. Now is the time.
Of course it would be a fantastic match, far more intriguing even than the Joshua rematch ... but, and it's a very big but, ... a Kim Kardashian size but ... I don't want to piss on your fries Caldo, but why would Klitschko fight Wilder for a good purse, when losing would mean dumping the Joshua fight, and the mega payday that goes with it, in the trash?

Wilder and Klitschko are a massive risk for each other. Wilder could return from a defeat but if Klitschko fights again it will probably be for the last time if he loses, and possibly even if he wins. If he decides to fight one more time it'll be for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, or should that be ... at the end of Wembley Way?
Piss all over my fries bud, that's what this site is all about. I've been eating piss fries for years now and got used to the taste. Joshua was calling out Fury after the fight and Wilder holds the only belt that WK never won so i thought that it would be something that he sought after. Plus, I think that Wilder is the easier fight so a WK win over Wilder would make the rematch with Joshua even bigger. I think that WK can do two more fights but what do i know?

Boy that's a lot of if's and buts i just wrote. I'd probably just take the rematch too instead of hoping all that stuff happens.

Thanks,

Pissfries (I think i'm changing my user name)
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I hadn't even thought about that angle - Wlad wanting the green belt. I'd love it if you turned out to be right. Watching Wilder v Klitschko would be worth eating humble pie for. I won't hold my breath though :D
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verlichte wrote:"The WBC will do ‘whatever it takes’ to make Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder"

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman told Boxing News that he would like to see Deontay Wilder and Joshua fight for the WBC heavyweight crown. “That would be a huge fight. Wilder is a great champion and he likes to be active and that would be a tremendous fight. We will support it.”

He continued, “Wilder has a mandatory and I don’t know what’s the status of Joshua. Being champion he’s got two other titles and he might have a mandatory, I don’t know. But I’m sure eventually it will happen. We will do whatever it takes to make it happen.”

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It appears as inevitable that the WBC will recognise Anthony Joshua in their rankings in the short-term and elevate him as Deontay Wilder’s mandatory challenger as soon as the American has disposed of the past-his-prime never-that-good-in-the-first-place Bermane Stiverne.

It seems that the WBC are intent on trying to maximise the revenue generated from their sanctioning fees, much akin to how they promoted Gennady Golovkin to become Miguel Cotto’s mandatory challenger (by deciding to sanction the Rubio-GGG bout as a title unification), by trying to attract 3% of the massive paydays that Wladimir Klitschko & Anthony Joshua bring to the table.

Put it this way, if the Joshu-Klitschko bout was sanctioned by the WBC, Mauricio Sulaiman’s organisation would have raked in a guaranteed minimum of $1.2m.

So it seems that the WBC lose interest in their champions and their own rules if they can attract bigger names (paying bigger sanctioning fees) from other organisations to hold their titles.

Look at how the WBC decided to create a special ‘Cinco de Mayo’ title for the Canelo-Chavez Jr. bout that was fought at 164½lbs, despite being told beforehand that their involvement was not required… and then they feigned outrage when Alvarez refused to recognise their commemorative belt and pay their sanctioning fees.
The WBC and VADA are the 2 most corrupt organizations involved with Boxing... They're in cahoots with each other... VADA's "voluntary" testing is mandatory for all WBC champions and they're now pushing mandatory testing down to their contenders to collect more fee money... They can rig the tests if they so desire... Who is going to stop them??? ... Nobody tested positive for "Ostarine" since it was banned years ago and suddenly 3 foreign champions test positive for the drug when they claim they never heard of it.
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Wilder vs anyone in the top 8 would be perfectly fine by me. Let me know when that happens.
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Kalan wrote:
The WBC and VADA are the 2 most corrupt organizations involved with Boxing... They're in cahoots with each other... VADA's "voluntary" testing is mandatory for all WBC champions and they're now pushing mandatory testing down to their contenders to collect more fee money... They can rig the tests if they so desire... Who is going to stop them??? ... Nobody tested positive for "Ostarine" since it was banned years ago and suddenly 3 foreign champions test positive for the drug when they claim they never heard of it.
Yes it's very helpful to get your very own tame drug testing outfit to stick a spanner in the works when one of your chosen standard bearers looks like he might need some extra protection from one of these big tough Russki types, or anyone else who looks capable of upsetting the apple-cart.

Tanzio invariably likes to refer to one of the heavyweight division's bogeymen as PEDvetkin but I'm wondering if a fairer nickname might not be Alexander Poviktim ?
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Lackeos wrote:Wilder vs anyone in the top 8 would be perfectly fine by me. Let me know when that happens.
I'll be sure to do that Lackeos provided of course we are both still alive by then.

Actually we may not have too long to wait because now he has the scent of Eddie Hearn's chequebook in his nostrils, suddenly the much talked about unification match has become a matter of extreme urgency as opposed to a vague future concept to which he would pay frequent and enthusiastic lip-service. Now there is even talk of a specific opponent rather than just "I want all the belts"

I'm just glad I've managed to avoid getting cynical :D
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