Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

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samdance
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

Post by samdance »

Of course you can make comparisons, you halfwits!

You have an unbeaten American coming over to fight a British fighter and is slight favourite...sound familiar?

Whether or not brook gives spence a boxing lesson is irrelevant until after the fight.
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The Brits chose Howard Foster to referee the fight. If Spence even gets a shot landed on him Foster might stop the fight. Heck, Foster might stop the fight during the introductions....
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People still on Calzaghe-Lacy like an American hasn't came over and took a belt since then.
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fightseer wrote:The Brits chose Howard Foster to referee the fight. If Spence even gets a shot landed on him Foster might stop the fight. Heck, Foster might stop the fight during the introductions....
You actually created a separate thread about this...

When you claim that Howard Foster “is known for screwing the challenger in a fight by early stoppage” and has done so “numerous times now and still gets assigned championship fights”, are you able to list them?

When you use the word “numerous”, I am expecting you to be able to actually provide a list that contains more than one fight? :lol:
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Gerald McClellan, Jeff Lacy and Lucian Bute were all severely hyped-up fighters that arrived on British shores possessing huge reputations and were also heavy favourites to not only defeat, but stop their British opponents.

Errol Spence Jr. is another fighter from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean that possesses a lofty reputation that many will heavily favour to defeat their British opponent. So in this respect, Kell Brook’s comparison is entirely reasonable (solely for the purpose of promoting the bout).

That being said, even if Brook genuinely believes that his American opponent has been hyped-up, the Brit is an experienced professional that will focus purely on the fight itself. He won’t even consider this matter at any time on fight-night.

Therefore, I don’t think that this comparison is an issue worth discussing, since fighters like Terence Crawford have also competed successfully on British shores. It’s simply a none-issue!
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verlichte wrote:Gerald McClellan, Jeff Lacy and Lucian Bute were all severely hyped-up fighters that arrived on British shores possessing huge reputations and were also heavy favourites to not only defeat, but stop their British opponents.

Errol Spence Jr. is another fighter from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean that possesses a lofty reputation that many will heavily favour to defeat their British opponent. So in this respect, Kell Brook’s comparison is entirely reasonable (solely for the purpose of promoting the bout).

That being said, even if Brook genuinely believes that his American opponent has been hyped-up, the Brit is an experienced professional that will focus purely on the fight itself. He won’t even consider this matter at any time on fight-night.

Therefore, I don’t think that this comparison is an issue worth discussing, since fighters like Terence Crawford have also competed successfully on British shores. It’s simply a none-issue!
I don't believe Spence even has half the hype than any of those. McLellan was a monster, Lacy was a mini-Tyson and everyone picked Bute. Spence is slipping under the radar. This kid is real. Brook might have enough left but I think Spence takes this, have you seen him fight?
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TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
verlichte wrote:Gerald McClellan, Jeff Lacy and Lucian Bute were all severely hyped-up fighters that arrived on British shores possessing huge reputations and were also heavy favourites to not only defeat, but stop their British opponents.

Errol Spence Jr. is another fighter from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean that possesses a lofty reputation that many will heavily favour to defeat their British opponent. So in this respect, Kell Brook’s comparison is entirely reasonable (solely for the purpose of promoting the bout).

That being said, even if Brook genuinely believes that his American opponent has been hyped-up, the Brit is an experienced professional that will focus purely on the fight itself. He won’t even consider this matter at any time on fight-night.

Therefore, I don’t think that this comparison is an issue worth discussing, since fighters like Terence Crawford have also competed successfully on British shores. It’s simply a none-issue!
I don't believe Spence even has half the hype than any of those. McLellan was a monster, Lacy was a mini-Tyson and everyone picked Bute. Spence is slipping under the radar. This kid is real. Brook might have enough left but I think Spence takes this, have you seen him fight?
I’ve seen Errol Spence Jr. fight multiple times, but I don’t believe that he’s been tested yet. His amateur record is moderately impressive though.

Unlike the aforementioned hyped-up names, Errol Spence Jr. hasn’t gained mainstream exposure yet, but the hard-core boxing fraternity (including many that frequent this forum) already consider him as the very best 147lb-er in the division and a dead-cert future pound-for-pounder, whilst also claiming that he is being “ducked” by his peers.

Whilst I do consider him a genuine talent and believe that he is more than capable of defeating Kell Brook, if the Brit hasn’t lost his weight correctly, I also feel that too many people have prematurely heaped an astonishing amount of praise on the American without him having earned his stripes inside the ring yet.

Errol Spence Jr. may eventually end-up being universally considered as the “real deal”, but at the moment, he almost certainly doesn’t deserve an honorary rite of passage to welterweight “greatness” without having earned it by beating the very best fighters of his era/weight division... and he hasn’t done that yet.

The kid has been hyped-up, but none of us truly know for certain as to whether he’ll be able to fulfil some of the lofty claims that has been made about him.
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

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Chippo wrote:
Kilsby wrote:For the record I'm in heavy on Spence even though I like Brook. Waiting on Davis & Spence on the last two legs of various accas worth £2,700 to me - and boy do I need it! :witzend:
in heavy
£2,700
:lol:
Don Corleone here.... ^^^^

"The Don" £2,700 a mere pittance! :bow:
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EO has got this one
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

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Watching Spence in his last few fights, he looks special. He's one of the smoothest if not the smoothest traditional boxer puncher I have seen out there today, smooth like Crawford and his performance today. Basically he's looked special against the opposition that he's faced.

I haven't seen much of Brook, seen maybe 2 of his fights. He's top heavy, almost like a weeble wobble, but it works for him. He weeble wobbled around, made Golovkin miss, gave him some problems, and traded some shots. His power seems very decent for WW.

So Spence going against an awkward, strong, decent puncher who is experienced. In conclusion, it won't be an easy night for either of them. If it is, then, I was wrong.
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verlichte wrote:Gerald McClellan, Jeff Lacy and Lucian Bute were all severely hyped-up fighters that arrived on British shores possessing huge reputations and were also heavy favourites to not only defeat, but stop their British opponents.

Errol Spence Jr. is another fighter from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean that possesses a lofty reputation that many will heavily favour to defeat their British opponent. So in this respect, Kell Brook’s comparison is entirely reasonable (solely for the purpose of promoting the bout).

That being said, even if Brook genuinely believes that his American opponent has been hyped-up, the Brit is an experienced professional that will focus purely on the fight itself. He won’t even consider this matter at any time on fight-night.

Therefore, I don’t think that this comparison is an issue worth discussing, since fighters like Terence Crawford have also competed successfully on British shores. It’s simply a none-issue!
Bute was an obvious hypejob. He beat Andrade in the first fight by the skin of his teeth. Athletically gifted, with fast hands and reflexes but defensively pretty sloppy and had questionable punch resistance.
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

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Kilsby wrote:
Chippo wrote:
Kilsby wrote:For the record I'm in heavy on Spence even though I like Brook. Waiting on Davis & Spence on the last two legs of various accas worth £2,700 to me - and boy do I need it! :witzend:
in heavy
£2,700
:lol:
Don Corleone here.... ^^^^

"The Don" £2,700 a mere pittance! :bow:
Lol right. Unless you're a millionaire or earning about £100k a year, just shy of £3k is fair bit of coin.
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

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IT wrote:I think Spence will end up stopping Brook with body shots.
I dont know if the body shots will stop Brook but think they will slow him down enough in the later rounds for Spence to win a clearcut but competitive decision.
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

Post by diddy »

This is so dumb.

Kell Brook is a really good fighter. And he's fighting at home.

This is how much confidence Spence and his team have in his ability. Going into this dude's backyard where they've been robbing outsiders left and right.
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Re: Errol Spence Laughs at Jeff Lacy Comparisons From Team Brook

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diddy wrote:This is so dumb.

Kell Brook is a really good fighter. And he's fighting at home.

This is how much confidence Spence and his team have in his ability. Going into this dude's backyard where they've been robbing outsiders left and right.
You’re probably right, but if Errol Spence Jr. was considered a big name in the US and could generate lots of money, Kell Brook would have likely preferred to accept the bigger payday by facing him in America instead of Sheffield.

In my mind, money usually dictates the venue for fights.

That’s the reason why Canelo didn’t travel to Liverpool to challenge for Liam Smith’s WBO world title. The same reason why the likes of Charles Martin and Gennady Golovkin defended their world titles on British shores instead of their home turf. :TU:
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diddy wrote:This is so dumb.

Kell Brook is a really good fighter. And he's fighting at home.

This is how much confidence Spence and his team have in his ability. Going into this dude's backyard where they've been robbing outsiders left and right.
Whose been getting robbed at Sheffield then? I'm all ears
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