Ward-Kovalev II - All of the Officials are American!

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Re: Ward-Kovalev II - All of the Officials are American!

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greg wrote:
verlichte wrote: Sergey Kovalev's own promoter ran the entire event for the first Andre Ward fight (as the A-side) and Main Events didn't request so-called "neutral" judges.

In fact, Main Events have not only used predominantly American judges for every single fight that Kovalev has fought on US soil, but they've also done the same for their other Eastern European and Communist fighters also.

To make matters worse, they continued using American judges for all of their other fighters since Kovalev lost the first bout to Andre Ward.

So Kathy Duva's request is highly-hypocritical, but it does make for an interesting discussion point, since many fight fans are outraged about Ward exercising his contractual right (as the new A-side), whilst refusing to fact-check the actions of Main Events.
...just because something was done wrong in the past doesn't necessarily mean that doing it over and over again makes it right, period..the World title at stake is the WORLD title (in fact 2 or 3 of them, I believe), unless, of course, you are willing to change it to Las Vegas title. The organisers just set the time bomb either not realising it or not giving a damn..
Are you strongly suggesting that it is alright for Sergey's own promoter (Main Events) to persistently make the same "mistakes" over-and-over again, whilst vehemently complaining about rival promoters doing precisely the same thing?

Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?

I truly don't understand the reasons for Kathy Duva's outrage in relation to this matter if you consider how her company always allows purely American judges to officionate bouts involving all of her non-US fighters.
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verlichte wrote:
greg wrote:
verlichte wrote: Sergey Kovalev's own promoter ran the entire event for the first Andre Ward fight (as the A-side) and Main Events didn't request so-called "neutral" judges.

In fact, Main Events have not only used predominantly American judges for every single fight that Kovalev has fought on US soil, but they've also done the same for their other Eastern European and Communist fighters also.

To make matters worse, they continued using American judges for all of their other fighters since Kovalev lost the first bout to Andre Ward.

So Kathy Duva's request is highly-hypocritical, but it does make for an interesting discussion point, since many fight fans are outraged about Ward exercising his contractual right (as the new A-side), whilst refusing to fact-check the actions of Main Events.
...just because something was done wrong in the past doesn't necessarily mean that doing it over and over again makes it right, period..the World title at stake is the WORLD title (in fact 2 or 3 of them, I believe), unless, of course, you are willing to change it to Las Vegas title. The organisers just set the time bomb either not realising it or not giving a damn..
Are you strongly suggesting that it is alright for Sergey's own promoter (Main Events) to persistently make the same "mistakes" over-and-over again, whilst vehemently complaining about rival promoters doing precisely the same thing?

Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?

I truly don't understand the reasons for Kathy Duva's outrage in relation to this matter if you consider how her company always allows purely American judges to officionate bouts involving all of her non-US fighters.
..there is only I thing I STRONGLY suggest: 3 WORLD titles are at stake, so be kind to make it look that way and that includes everyone..
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verlichte wrote: Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?
you kidding, right? if not, quote me saying or implying that..
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greg wrote:
verlichte wrote: Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?
you kidding, right? if not, quote me saying or implying that..
If you haven't noticed by now, Verlichte/Enlightened One/Ferg/who the hell else knows his other screen names.....will try to keep a pointless argument going and respond as many times possible to threads that he created, whether it makes sense or not. Put the idiot on ignore.
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Re: Ward-Kovalev II - All of the Officials are American!

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greg wrote:
verlichte wrote: Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?
you kidding, right? if not, quote me saying or implying that..
If you’re endorsing the actions of Main Events, in regards to how they manage US officials that are responsible for refereeing and judging the bouts involving their Eastern European and Communist stable of fighters, then you’re behaving like them and applying double-standards.

My gripe relates to how Kathy Duva made a massive issue of Andre Ward not agreeing to use “neutral”judges for his rematch against Sergey Kovalev, when she herself never has never previously made a similar request... in fact, she hasn't done this since the outcome of the first Ward-Kovalev fight for any of the other Eastern European/Communist fighters in her stable.

It’s hard to endorse Kathy Duva’s actions when she keeps repositioning her moral compass to suit her preferred narrative... and actions nearly always speak louder than words.
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Re: Ward-Kovalev II - All of the Officials are American!

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unless kovalev KO's slappin' soggy' he loses
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verlichte wrote:
greg wrote:
verlichte wrote: Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?
you kidding, right? if not, quote me saying or implying that..
If you’re endorsing the actions of Main Events, in regards to how they manage US officials that are responsible for refereeing and judging the bouts involving their Eastern European and Communist stable of fighters, then you’re behaving like them and applying double-standards.

My gripe relates to how Kathy Duva made a massive issue of Andre Ward not agreeing to use “neutral”judges for his rematch against Sergey Kovalev, when she herself never has never previously made a similar request... in fact, she hasn't done this since the outcome of the first Ward-Kovalev fight for any of the other Eastern European/Communist fighters in her stable.

It’s hard to endorse Kathy Duva’s actions when she keeps repositioning her moral compass to suit her preferred narrative... and actions nearly always speak louder than words.
Since I've noticed he is back, I am curious what Enlightened One has to say about this matter... :OhYes:
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Re: Ward-Kovalev II - All of the Officials are American!

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verlichte wrote:
greg wrote:
verlichte wrote: Are you applying double-standards, whereby Sergey Kovalev should be treated differently in the US than other fighters from Eastern European countries?
you kidding, right? if not, quote me saying or implying that..
If you’re endorsing the actions of Main Events, in regards to how they manage US officials that are responsible for refereeing and judging the bouts involving their Eastern European and Communist stable of fighters, then you’re behaving like them and applying double-standards.
read my lips: I'm not endorsing anyone's actions...

P.S. you still have to quote me saying or implying it
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