SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Castillo was clearly better than both of them. You took your stupid pills this morning. Floyd tried to fight cotto at 40.
PAC avoided him too. You can mention some names, tszyu & cotto are not two of them.Jip wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Castillo was clearly better than both of them. You took your stupid pills this morning. Floyd tried to fight cotto at 40.
Floyd never avoided anybody and is the goat.
The reason for his long vac during 2008 was on other reasons than avoiding pw or marga. And letting pac and fans wait for 7 years also had other logical reasons...
Realy...for sure
Lol, you're special.Jip wrote:Pac did one mistake, that was saying no to vada testing at the beginning of the Negotiation . than pac said 100000 "i do the testing, i take less money, i want the fight" . floyd replied with 100000 excuses and 100000 demands and let 6 years pass by....so pac could lose a bit of his power, footwork and phenomenal condition.
Yeah, they ducked each other. Equally to blame. You just have to give Floyd your love.Jip wrote:It has all been well documented. You same as me followed boxing since long time. So you know what happened.
Jip wrote:Facts show otherwise. It showed pac over years saying yes to all floyd demands and floyd kept making new demands avoiding the fight.
I have a problem with Floyd not fighting Thurman or Brook.. And with Pacquiao fighting light hitters for years -- instead of Brook, Thurman, Spence, Porter, and Crawford... Arum even begged Pacquiao to fight Crawford... And Golovkin should have gotten his opportunity at least 6 years ago when Martinez was World Champion.. He would have made an entirely DIFFERENT history of the Middleweight Division.. The problem with Boxing is: the most prominent World Champion is allowed to duck the most dangerous challenger.Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Prime or non prime means something.
Prime tszyu easily stopped a guy, where floyd had huge problems and was close to losing the fight on points. I am talking about judah.
Past prime old tszyu lost to hatton.
Castillo beat floyd. Casamayor and margarito are in the same league as castillo, if not better.
I have no problem with floyd not wanting to fight thurman or brook. Floyd was past prime and those guys the new generation. My problem is when floyd was prime his unwillingness to tesz himself against other top boxers in their prime, cotto.pac.marga etc......all avoided.
The most important thing in boxing is prime vs prime. Thats why i want spence crawford or ggg canelo now and not in 6 years!! Floyd did not respect that rule.
You have just surpassed Caldoh for the dumbest post in Current Scene history, by a country light year.montrealsuper wrote:mosley tanked it to floyd as he needed $ because his wife divorced him. Baldomir probably agreed to throw the fight to Floyd also for the career high payday he got vs Floyd. margarito had to be ducked because Haymon could not buy off Arum to get margarito to throw the fight thus he had to be ducked. EVERY SINGLE one of Floyd's fights post 2004 is suspect. The Pac fight is suspect because Floyd fought like he knew the judges were bought (they surely were) and so Floyd just did as little as possible to just last the distance. Floyd did not try to win decisively. The fight stank like a corrupt fix for Floyd. Pac just wasn't quick enough and he can't throw the ten punch combos like he could in 2009-2011. mosley actually looked like he accidentally almost koed Floyd in the second round and then strangely did nothing after that. Floyd's a total fraud fix I have zero doubt of it. Haymon was desperate to be a big playa and control the sport and the only way he could do that was to fix Floyd to never lose. Paulie malinaggi said it" Al Hyamon can manipulate anything. what al haymon wants al hyamon gets" Williams would have eaten Floyd alive in a real fight.
Congratulations!Youve been rope a doped by a fraud. Ya probly think Wilder is the truth tooTanzio wrote:You have just surpassed Caldoh for the dumbest post in Current Scene history, by a country light year.montrealsuper wrote:mosley tanked it to floyd as he needed $ because his wife divorced him. Baldomir probably agreed to throw the fight to Floyd also for the career high payday he got vs Floyd. margarito had to be ducked because Haymon could not buy off Arum to get margarito to throw the fight thus he had to be ducked. EVERY SINGLE one of Floyd's fights post 2004 is suspect. The Pac fight is suspect because Floyd fought like he knew the judges were bought (they surely were) and so Floyd just did as little as possible to just last the distance. Floyd did not try to win decisively. The fight stank like a corrupt fix for Floyd. Pac just wasn't quick enough and he can't throw the ten punch combos like he could in 2009-2011. mosley actually looked like he accidentally almost koed Floyd in the second round and then strangely did nothing after that. Floyd's a total fraud fix I have zero doubt of it. Haymon was desperate to be a big playa and control the sport and the only way he could do that was to fix Floyd to never lose. Paulie malinaggi said it" Al Hyamon can manipulate anything. what al haymon wants al hyamon gets" Williams would have eaten Floyd alive in a real fight.
montrealsuper wrote:Youve been rope a doped by a fraud. Ya probly think Wilder is the truth tooTanzio wrote:You have just surpassed Caldoh for the dumbest post in Current Scene history, by a country light year.montrealsuper wrote:mosley tanked it to floyd as he needed $ because his wife divorced him. Baldomir probably agreed to throw the fight to Floyd also for the career high payday he got vs Floyd. margarito had to be ducked because Haymon could not buy off Arum to get margarito to throw the fight thus he had to be ducked. EVERY SINGLE one of Floyd's fights post 2004 is suspect. The Pac fight is suspect because Floyd fought like he knew the judges were bought (they surely were) and so Floyd just did as little as possible to just last the distance. Floyd did not try to win decisively. The fight stank like a corrupt fix for Floyd. Pac just wasn't quick enough and he can't throw the ten punch combos like he could in 2009-2011. mosley actually looked like he accidentally almost koed Floyd in the second round and then strangely did nothing after that. Floyd's a total fraud fix I have zero doubt of it. Haymon was desperate to be a big playa and control the sport and the only way he could do that was to fix Floyd to never lose. Paulie malinaggi said it" Al Hyamon can manipulate anything. what al haymon wants al hyamon gets" Williams would have eaten Floyd alive in a real fight.
The dumbest post in the history of Current Scene, by countless distances to the sun. I doubted that caldoh could be topped, but you make his "Wlad is the worst heavy weight champion in history" post seem like just a misguided opinion.As I'm sitting in a Chinese restaurant enjoying my egg drop soup. I read this post and spit my soup all over the place.Tanzio wrote:montrealsuper wrote:Youve been rope a doped by a fraud. Ya probly think Wilder is the truth tooTanzio wrote: You have just surpassed Caldoh for the dumbest post in Current Scene history, by a country light year.
You are, without a doubt, the Moron Laureate of Current Scene, and that is depth of dumb that I doubt can ever be surpassed. Quite an accomplishment.
I dont aggree with everything. But yes. Refs and nudges often got $$$$ in favour of floyd. Just remember mayweather/maidana 2, the ref bayless never let maidana come close to floyd, giving him a huge advantage. Flyd could move and thriw his jab, maidana wasnt allowed to box from inside like boxing from inside was illegal.montrealsuper wrote:mosley tanked it to floyd as he needed $ because his wife divorced him. Baldomir probably agreed to throw the fight to Floyd also for the career high payday he got vs Floyd. margarito had to be ducked because Haymon could not buy off Arum to get margarito to throw the fight thus he had to be ducked. EVERY SINGLE one of Floyd's fights post 2004 is suspect. The Pac fight is suspect because Floyd fought like he knew the judges were bought (they surely were) and so Floyd just did as little as possible to just last the distance. Floyd did not try to win decisively. The fight stank like a corrupt fix for Floyd. Pac just wasn't quick enough and he can't throw the ten punch combos like he could in 2009-2011. mosley actually looked like he accidentally almost koed Floyd in the second round and then strangely did nothing after that. Floyd's a total fraud fix I have zero doubt of it. Haymon was desperate to be a big playa and control the sport and the only way he could do that was to fix Floyd to never lose. Paulie malinaggi said it" Al Hyamon can manipulate anything. what al haymon wants al hyamon gets" Williams would have eaten Floyd alive in a real fight.
maidana said at the press conference before the fight that he knew he had no chance to win. he said even if he knocked out fraudweather the referee would count in decimal points. basically telling all the reporters it was a fix and he had no chance to win. typical fraudweather fight where everything is slanted and bent to favor fraudweather. Level playing field? Only a dumb as a rock dunce thinks any fraudweather fight was a level playing field. And there's a whole lotta imbeciles in this world.Jip wrote:I dont aggree with everything. But yes. Refs and nudges often got $$$$ in favour of floyd. Just remember mayweather/maidana 2, the ref bayless never let maidana come close to floyd, giving him a huge advantage. Flyd could move and thriw his jab, maidana wasnt allowed to box from inside like boxing from inside was illegal.montrealsuper wrote:mosley tanked it to floyd as he needed $ because his wife divorced him. Baldomir probably agreed to throw the fight to Floyd also for the career high payday he got vs Floyd. margarito had to be ducked because Haymon could not buy off Arum to get margarito to throw the fight thus he had to be ducked. EVERY SINGLE one of Floyd's fights post 2004 is suspect. The Pac fight is suspect because Floyd fought like he knew the judges were bought (they surely were) and so Floyd just did as little as possible to just last the distance. Floyd did not try to win decisively. The fight stank like a corrupt fix for Floyd. Pac just wasn't quick enough and he can't throw the ten punch combos like he could in 2009-2011. mosley actually looked like he accidentally almost koed Floyd in the second round and then strangely did nothing after that. Floyd's a total fraud fix I have zero doubt of it. Haymon was desperate to be a big playa and control the sport and the only way he could do that was to fix Floyd to never lose. Paulie malinaggi said it" Al Hyamon can manipulate anything. what al haymon wants al hyamon gets" Williams would have eaten Floyd alive in a real fight.
......my own recollections are.......Kalan was born in Wisconsin on a farm.His father Augustus Kalan the Third and mother Winolla were first cousins. At high school he borrowed his fathers jockstrap on prom night and drove there along with his best buddy Earnie Faltmeyer blasting out phil Collins " Easy lover" during continuos circuits of the school carpark to impress the girls. During his early teenage years Kalan became fascinated with male masculinity and following a short Charles atlas course enrolled at the nearest boxing club which was a round trip drive of 90 miles. He would drive every weekday night to the club and was willing to spar anyone no matter their size. Due to the fact he worse thick rimmed spectacles like Adrians in Rocky 1, he often got his face smashed in early on but always came back for more and soon developed a crouching almost sinister style of fighting where he would fight aggressively but his defence was like nino locche..he would sway his body left and right to avoid blows like a fervent dervish....and was not immune to a headbutt or low blow here or there.....the gym was an afro American one and kalans perserverence and will impressed the chief trainer LeMarr Fruckuon who one day took Kalan aside and said "shhit kid....lighten up niggger..Ill help you make it if you help me train and clean up on in this mmotherfucker".........Kalan took to his duties like a duck to water......pretty soon he was 5-0 as an amateur..and would wear a T shirt saying 5-0 on the streets of wisconcin....than one night watching the Sugar Ray leonard-donnie lalonde fight tragedy struck.......... LeMarr Fruckuon suffered a seizure drinking malt beer and died on his sofa......Kalan discovered the body and was crestfallen......his amateur boxingcareer and spitbucket duties were over....the new regime dismissed him as "that crazy white boy with glasses who found LeMarr all ffucked up"....amidst all this uncertainty Kalan attended a George Michael concert in 1989 during the Faith tour and was asked to come backstage by security .Kalan met George and altho he proffesed he was not homosexual to George he explained he was a boxer and collector of music LPS, George was so impressed by Kalans that he pulled some strings and got Kalan a job writing on Rolling Stones magazine in New York.......during this time Kalan took out his anger at the hand fate had dealt him by trashing established rock stars while grouping upcomers like Guns and roses and Metallica in his weekly column which soon built up a cult following....a shock jock radio dj gig also manifested itself......than in 1992 Kalan heard a Harry Connick Jnr LP and immediately came out as gay.....he continued to write music and do a radio phone in in Yonkers New York until he lost his job in the internet age of the early 2000s...the payout was good and his share of a writing credit for Charles and Eddies "would I lie to you" ensures he no longer needs to work......so to fill out his days Kalan reverted back to his first love Boxing........and upon waking up to a breakfast of orange juice,Ham and Eggs he goes to a uptown boxing gym than comes home and prowls boxing forums sharing his lifetimes knowledge of boxing.......and he wears daily a t shirt saying 5-0.....whenever anyone in the gym asks him what it means he just taps his nose with his finger....and walks away with a benign smile on his face.....now 47 Kalan is very content with life and last year proposed to his wife Hermundolazboy wrote:In my minds eye I see Kalan as a rather small balding man. He used to frequent a dilapidated boxing gym, an amateur stable with maybe one of two notable amateur fighters throughout the years, holding state titles at the most. He would often be seen in the corner of the training sparring ring, watching, sometimes holding water. He would also volunteer to hold the pads, this was his favourite activity until he grew tired and brought up a long sustaining back injury. He was not an owner but paid money to do these things. You could often see him talking and advising those new to the gym, whether they be children or adults. He was by far the most talkative individual but his voice was quite and he did not interfere with the real trainer/s. He often had trouble making eye contact, especially with some of the boxers who were excelling. Eventually the gym closed and Kalan felt that a part of him had been lost, his real family at this stage had long been estranged. He begun to drink and discovered Boxrec....That's as far as I'll go for now. The rest is history.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Kalan has never boxed. He'll also be insulted that you dated compare Whitaker's weak defensive skills in the same breath as Joshua.lazboy wrote:
Hi Kalan,
I noticed you said you used to compete as a Heavyweight. Do you have some connection to Ali, perhaps you sparred or fought someone who sparred one of Ali's sparring partners or some such. What was your record? I notice that you like to exaggerate fighters. For example, you said Anthony Joshua was a defensive genius in the realm of mayweather and Whitaker prior to his fight with Wlad. Also it seems you are exaggerating how easy it was to beat Ali and how "feather fisted" he was. When you fought, did you often overestimate and then at times underestimate your opponents. Did you find yourself being outsmarted In the ring more times than not?
Please answer.
How much time do you have to waste on me?Bricks wrote:......my own recollections are.......Kalan was born in Wisconsin on a farm.His father Augustus Kalan the Third and mother Winolla were first cousins. At high school he borrowed his fathers jockstrap on prom night and drove there along with his best buddy Earnie Faltmeyer blasting out phil Collins " Easy lover" during continuos circuits of the school carpark to impress the girls. During his early teenage years Kalan became fascinated with male masculinity and following a short Charles atlas course enrolled at the nearest boxing club which was a round trip drive of 90 miles. He would drive every weekday night to the club and was willing to spar anyone no matter their size. Due to the fact he worse thick rimmed spectacles like Adrians in Rocky 1, he often got his face smashed in early on but always came back for more and soon developed a crouching almost sinister style of fighting where he would fight aggressively but his defence was like nino locche..he would sway his body left and right to avoid blows like a fervent dervish....and was not immune to a headbutt or low blow here or there.....the gym was an afro American one and kalans perserverence and will impressed the chief trainer LeMarr Fruckuon who one day took Kalan aside and said "shhit kid....lighten up niggger..Ill help you make it if you help me train and clean up on in this mmotherfucker".........Kalan took to his duties like a duck to water......pretty soon he was 5-0 as an amateur..and would wear a T shirt saying 5-0 on the streets of wisconcin....than one night watching the Sugar Ray leonard-donnie lalonde fight tragedy struck.......... LeMarr Fruckuon suffered a seizure drinking malt beer and died on his sofa......Kalan discovered the body and was crestfallen......his amateur boxingcareer and spitbucket duties were over....the new regime dismissed him as "that crazy white boy with glasses who found LeMarr all ffucked up"....amidst all this uncertainty Kalan attended a George Michael concert in 1989 during the Faith tour and was asked to come backstage by security .Kalan met George and altho he proffesed he was not homosexual to George he explained he was a boxer and collector of music LPS, George was so impressed by Kalans that he pulled some strings and got Kalan a job writing on Rolling Stones magazine in New York.......during this time Kalan took out his anger at the hand fate had dealt him by trashing established rock stars while grouping upcomers like Guns and roses and Metallica in his weekly column which soon built up a cult following....a shock jock radio dj gig also manifested itself......than in 1992 Kalan heard a Harry Connick Jnr LP and immediately came out as gay.....he continued to write music and do a radio phone in in Yonkers New York until he lost his job in the internet age of the early 2000s...the payout was good and his share of a writing credit for Charles and Eddies "would I lie to you" ensures he no longer needs to work......so to fill out his days Kalan reverted back to his first love Boxing........and upon waking up to a breakfast of orange juice,Ham and Eggs he goes to a uptown boxing gym than comes home and prowls boxing forums sharing his lifetimes knowledge of boxing.......and he wears daily a t shirt saying 5-0.....whenever anyone in the gym asks him what it means he just taps his nose with his finger....and walks away with a benign smile on his face.....now 47 Kalan is very content with life and last year proposed to his wife Hermundolazboy wrote:In my minds eye I see Kalan as a rather small balding man. He used to frequent a dilapidated boxing gym, an amateur stable with maybe one of two notable amateur fighters throughout the years, holding state titles at the most. He would often be seen in the corner of the training sparring ring, watching, sometimes holding water. He would also volunteer to hold the pads, this was his favourite activity until he grew tired and brought up a long sustaining back injury. He was not an owner but paid money to do these things. You could often see him talking and advising those new to the gym, whether they be children or adults. He was by far the most talkative individual but his voice was quite and he did not interfere with the real trainer/s. He often had trouble making eye contact, especially with some of the boxers who were excelling. Eventually the gym closed and Kalan felt that a part of him had been lost, his real family at this stage had long been estranged. He begun to drink and discovered Boxrec....That's as far as I'll go for now. The rest is history.SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Kalan has never boxed. He'll also be insulted that you dated compare Whitaker's weak defensive skills in the same breath as Joshua.
......my own recollections are.......Kalan was born in Wisconsin on a farm.His father Augustus Kalan the Third and mother Winolla were first cousins. At high school he borrowed his fathers jockstrap on prom night and drove there along with his best buddy Earnie Faltmeyer blasting out phil Collins " Easy lover" during continuos circuits of the school carpark to impress the girls. During his early teenage years Kalan became fascinated with male masculinity and following a short Charles atlas course enrolled at the nearest boxing club which was a round trip drive of 90 miles. He would drive every weekday night to the club and was willing to spar anyone no matter their size. Due to the fact he worse thick rimmed spectacles like Adrians in Rocky 1, he often got his face smashed in early on but always came back for more and soon developed a crouching almost sinister style of fighting where he would fight aggressively but his defence was like nino locche..he would sway his body left and right to avoid blows like a fervent dervish....and was not immune to a headbutt or low blow here or there.....the gym was an afro American one and kalans perserverence and will impressed the chief trainer LeMarr Fruckuon who one day took Kalan aside and said "shhit kid....lighten up niggger..Ill help you make it if you help me train and clean up on in this mmotherfucker".........Kalan took to his duties like a duck to water......pretty soon he was 5-0 as an amateur..and would wear a T shirt saying 5-0 on the streets of wisconcin....than one night watching the Sugar Ray leonard-donnie lalonde fight tragedy struck.......... LeMarr Fruckuon suffered a seizure drinking malt beer and died on his sofa......Kalan discovered the body and was crestfallen......his amateur boxingcareer and spitbucket duties were over....the new regime dismissed him as "that crazy white boy with glasses who found LeMarr all ffucked up"....amidst all this uncertainty Kalan attended a George Michael concert in 1989 during the Faith tour and was asked to come backstage by security .Kalan met George and altho he proffesed he was not homosexual to George he explained he was a boxer and collector of music LPS, George was so impressed by Kalans that he pulled some strings and got Kalan a job writing on Rolling Stones magazine in New York.......during this time Kalan took out his anger at the hand fate had dealt him by trashing established rock stars while grouping upcomers like Guns and roses and Metallica in his weekly column which soon built up a cult following....a shock jock radio dj gig also manifested itself......than in 1992 Kalan heard a Harry Connick Jnr LP and immediately came out as gay.....he continued to write music and do a radio phone in in Yonkers New York until he lost his job in the internet age of the early 2000s...the payout was good and his share of a writing credit for Charles and Eddies "would I lie to you" ensures he no longer needs to work......so to fill out his days Kalan reverted back to his first love Boxing........and upon waking up to a breakfast of orange juice,Ham and Eggs he goes to a uptown boxing gym than comes home and prowls boxing forums sharing his lifetimes knowledge of boxing.......and he wears daily a t shirt saying 5-0.....whenever anyone in the gym asks him what it means he just taps his nose with his finger....and walks away with a benign smile on his face.....now 47 Kalan is very content with life and last year proposed to his wife Hermundo[/quotBricks wrote:lazboy wrote:In my minds eye I see Kalan as a rather small balding man. He used to frequent a dilapidated boxing gym, an amateur stable with maybe one of two notable amateur fighters throughout the years, holding state titles at the most. He would often be seen in the corner of the training sparring ring, watching, sometimes holding water. He would also volunteer to hold the pads, this was his favourite activity until he grew tired and brought up a long sustaining back injury. He was not an owner but paid money to do these things. You could often see him talking and advising those new to the gym, whether they be children or adults. He was by far the most talkative individual but his voice was quite and he did not interfere with the real trainer/s. He often had trouble making eye contact, especially with some of the boxers who were excelling. Eventually the gym closed and Kalan felt that a part of him had been lost, his real family at this stage had long been estranged. He begun to drink and discovered Boxrec....That's as far as I'll go for now. The rest is history.SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Kalan has never boxed. He'll also be insulted that you dated compare Whitaker's weak defensive skills in the same breath as Joshua.
So what you"re saying is....any time spent on you is a waste?Kalan wrote:How much time do you have to waste on me?Bricks wrote:......my own recollections are.......Kalan was born in Wisconsin on a farm.His father Augustus Kalan the Third and mother Winolla were first cousins. At high school he borrowed his fathers jockstrap on prom night and drove there along with his best buddy Earnie Faltmeyer blasting out phil Collins " Easy lover" during continuos circuits of the school carpark to impress the girls. During his early teenage years Kalan became fascinated with male masculinity and following a short Charles atlas course enrolled at the nearest boxing club which was a round trip drive of 90 miles. He would drive every weekday night to the club and was willing to spar anyone no matter their size. Due to the fact he worse thick rimmed spectacles like Adrians in Rocky 1, he often got his face smashed in early on but always came back for more and soon developed a crouching almost sinister style of fighting where he would fight aggressively but his defence was like nino locche..he would sway his body left and right to avoid blows like a fervent dervish....and was not immune to a headbutt or low blow here or there.....the gym was an afro American one and kalans perserverence and will impressed the chief trainer LeMarr Fruckuon who one day took Kalan aside and said "shhit kid....lighten up niggger..Ill help you make it if you help me train and clean up on in this mmotherfucker".........Kalan took to his duties like a duck to water......pretty soon he was 5-0 as an amateur..and would wear a T shirt saying 5-0 on the streets of wisconcin....than one night watching the Sugar Ray leonard-donnie lalonde fight tragedy struck.......... LeMarr Fruckuon suffered a seizure drinking malt beer and died on his sofa......Kalan discovered the body and was crestfallen......his amateur boxingcareer and spitbucket duties were over....the new regime dismissed him as "that crazy white boy with glasses who found LeMarr all ffucked up"....amidst all this uncertainty Kalan attended a George Michael concert in 1989 during the Faith tour and was asked to come backstage by security .Kalan met George and altho he proffesed he was not homosexual to George he explained he was a boxer and collector of music LPS, George was so impressed by Kalans that he pulled some strings and got Kalan a job writing on Rolling Stones magazine in New York.......during this time Kalan took out his anger at the hand fate had dealt him by trashing established rock stars while grouping upcomers like Guns and roses and Metallica in his weekly column which soon built up a cult following....a shock jock radio dj gig also manifested itself......than in 1992 Kalan heard a Harry Connick Jnr LP and immediately came out as gay.....he continued to write music and do a radio phone in in Yonkers New York until he lost his job in the internet age of the early 2000s...the payout was good and his share of a writing credit for Charles and Eddies "would I lie to you" ensures he no longer needs to work......so to fill out his days Kalan reverted back to his first love Boxing........and upon waking up to a breakfast of orange juice,Ham and Eggs he goes to a uptown boxing gym than comes home and prowls boxing forums sharing his lifetimes knowledge of boxing.......and he wears daily a t shirt saying 5-0.....whenever anyone in the gym asks him what it means he just taps his nose with his finger....and walks away with a benign smile on his face.....now 47 Kalan is very content with life and last year proposed to his wife Hermundolazboy wrote:
In my minds eye I see Kalan as a rather small balding man. He used to frequent a dilapidated boxing gym, an amateur stable with maybe one of two notable amateur fighters throughout the years, holding state titles at the most. He would often be seen in the corner of the training sparring ring, watching, sometimes holding water. He would also volunteer to hold the pads, this was his favourite activity until he grew tired and brought up a long sustaining back injury. He was not an owner but paid money to do these things. You could often see him talking and advising those new to the gym, whether they be children or adults. He was by far the most talkative individual but his voice was quite and he did not interfere with the real trainer/s. He often had trouble making eye contact, especially with some of the boxers who were excelling. Eventually the gym closed and Kalan felt that a part of him had been lost, his real family at this stage had long been estranged. He begun to drink and discovered Boxrec....That's as far as I'll go for now. The rest is history.