Round-By-Round - Kell Brook vs. Errol Spence - May 27th 2017

[lefty]

Another cringe commentary from A.S...... I generally don't listen to commentary too closely, but Smith's ineptitude and growling is such a talking point I can't avoid it. No analysis, no depth, nothing of any value.... just fake gravel voiced over intoned, melodramatic growling and no insight. I can't take it anymore.

And those that say 'mute it' .... I think you lose a lot if you mute... the atmosphere, referee words, inter round corner advice....

Lord save us

I really wish they would give you a non commentary option. Just the crowd noise and the sound of the punches.

I'd pay for that. Why it isn't an option I don't know.

Smith and co probably worried about being out of a job lol.

[Finn]

No one is saying he didn't quit. Obviously Kell quit.

You and Bellew are saying he shouldn't have.

Of course he shouldn't have quit. If he was worried about the eye the doctor should have looked at in between rounds and his corner should have pulled him out. He fights until the the ref stops it or the corner throw in the towel.

Maybe they should just give boxers a choice of medieval weapons to use, from say round
8 onwards, so they can inflict more lasting damage on each other to satisfy peoples bloodlust from the safety of their armchairs? I'm sure you would have carried on fighting though eh?

You can assume what you want with the "eh"? But since I did MMA for many years and didn't quit at any point for no money. I could only imagine what I would do for £3 million.

[handsofstone]

Bellew and Khan were out of order, Bomber especially is always going on about how he has no quit and how he has something inside him that no other boxer has blah blah, but then now he's accusing Brook of quitting in terrible circumstances when every other boxer would've carried on??

People can go on about Burns and other fighters carrying on with a severe injury like its the norm, fact is most fighters ARENT like Burns and co, just because Brook quit, doesn't mean he hasn't got heart, if what Burns, Ali, Abraham, Danny Williams etc did wasn't so incredible people wouldn't mention it as a point of reference, i'd imagine most fighters would quit with a broken jaw, dislocated shoulder etc, Brook's eye mustve been painful, he hardly went out with a whimper

[Jackson328]

Of course he shouldn't have quit. If he was worried about the eye the doctor should have looked at in between rounds and his corner should have pulled him out. He fights until the the ref stops it or the corner throw in the towel.

Maybe they should just give boxers a choice of medieval weapons to use, from say round
8 onwards, so they can inflict more lasting damage on each other to satisfy peoples bloodlust from the safety of their armchairs? I'm sure you would have carried on fighting though eh?

You can assume what you want with the "eh"? But since I did MMA for many years and didn't quit at any point for no money. I could only imagine what I would do for £3 million.

Ah the blood lust of MMA, kicking and elbowing stricken fighters on the floor etc, so far removed from the sweet science that it shouldn't ever be mentioned in the same sentence. . . . I'd rather keep my eyesight than have £3m ta but maybe I'm just soft eh

[deadpan]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

[lefty]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Seriously?!

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'm surprised Brook is getting so much heat. He put on a great show, they easily could have stopped it the previous round but he made his last stand. He didn't respond like Holyfield, but very few in history have. Great competitive fight that started turning ugly. He's still human, having his other eye shattered in his next fight is a godammmit moment for anyone.

[Boxerbeetle]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Seriously?!

Fat Dan just tweeted that Brook is on his way to hospital to get his eye checked out. Makes sense, considering the state of it.

[deadpan]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Seriously?!

Apologies, inadvertently made it sound worse than it was, but he looked totally spent and in a lot of pain.

[lefty]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Seriously?!

Fat Dan just tweeted that Brook is on his way to hospital to get his eye checked out. Makes sense, considering the state of it.

Yeah hopefully there's no neurological injury and it's simply precautionary. It would suck if he ends up having to have surgery on that other eye as well.

[Finn]

Don't be an idiot. Not all fighters need to be saved from themselves. Brook was against Golovkin, and here he decided to save himself.

Don't be an idiot? We all follow boxing and have seen fighters carry on and win with worse injurys.

I've seen ricky burns fight 9 rounds with a snapped jaw and draw he fight to keep his titles. I saw Haye fight with one leg not long ago.

Thats fine if you think his eye was so bad it needed to be stopped but his corner obviously didn't think it was that bad and the ref didn't think it was that bad. So kel decided himself that his eye was too bad to continue and decided to quit, I'm not convinced it was.

Neither of us know.

That's true but let's face it do you think is more like - with 2 rounds left to go after apparently breaking his eye socket in the 7th and continuing to fight he suddenly decided his eye was so bad he had so take a knee.

Or

He knew he didn't have anything in the tank and couldnt win the fight so decided to save face.

He is eye socket may well be damaged I wouldn't rule that out at all but why choose that time to decide it was too bad to continue with?

[Jackson328]

I can't understand how people think it should be down to the corner all the time. Brook had taken more punishment during the 10th round, 3 minutes is an awful long time when you're getting punched in the face and one more punch on a potentially broken cheekbone or eye socket could end your career or eyesight. He took a knee like so many have done before, people said that Joshua hit the canvas voluntarily against Wlad to give himself more recovery time instead of taking more punishment, it is sometimes called ring savvy.

[lefty]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Seriously?!

Apologies, inadvertently made it sound worse than it was, but he looked totally spent and in a lot of pain.

It looked like he might have another broken orbital bone which would really suck. He's probably also utterly exhausted as well. That was a gruelling fight combined with it being a hot night.

[mfc_se15]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Was having a few problems streaming the fight around the time of the minutes silence but seen comments, what actually happened some drunk singing during it?

[wesshaw1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ivl5W-_Tn0

[Finn]

Bellew and Khan were out of order, Bomber especially is always going on about how he has no quit and how he has something inside him that no other boxer has blah blah, but then now he's accusing Brook of quitting in terrible circumstances when every other boxer would've carried on??

People can go on about Burns and other fighters carrying on with a severe injury like its the norm, fact is most fighters ARENT like Burns and co, just because Brook quit, doesn't mean he hasn't got heart, if what Burns, Ali, Abraham, Danny Williams etc did wasn't so incredible people wouldn't mention it as a point of reference, i'd imagine most fighters would quit with a broken jaw, dislocated shoulder etc, Brook's eye mustve been painful, he hardly went out with a whimper

That's true but that's called heart and I'm sorry but to me kel got his heart broke in that fight.

If he had been fighting against frankie gavin and got the same injury would he have quit?

It's not that outside he norm for a fighter to get a bad injury and carry on Quigg broke his jaw, tommy coyle fought with a broken eye socket, Mitchell with and extra head, degale with his teeth knocked out - all recent fights. Fighters fight with bad cuts frequently, badly swollen eyes frequently, broken hands frequently.

[davie]

Of course he shouldn't have quit. If he was worried about the eye the doctor should have looked at in between rounds and his corner should have pulled him out. He fights until the the ref stops it or the corner throw in the towel.

Don't be an idiot. Not all fighters need to be saved from themselves. Brook was against Golovkin, and here he decided to save himself.

Don't be an idiot? We all follow boxing and have seen fighters carry on and win with worse injurys.

I've seen ricky burns fight 9 rounds with a snapped jaw and draw he fight to keep his titles. I saw Haye fight with one leg not long ago.

Thats fine if you think his eye was so bad it needed to be stopped but his corner obviously didn't think it was that bad and the ref didn't think it was that bad. So kel decided himself that his eye was too bad to continue and decided to quit, I'm not convinced it was.

Well, you won't mind if we trust Kells judgement on that more than yours?

[deadpan]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Was having a few problems streaming the fight around the time of the minutes silence but seen comments, what actually happened some drunk singing during it?

It felt like a whole stand did. And a bunch were vociferously booing Naz during his ring interview. Presumably it was Islam related. Not regarding his Manuel Calvo performance.

[BigDoofus]

I was there. Happened to see Kell in an ambulance, he did not look in a good way.

Bellew and Nelson took no interest in any fights before Groves at all.

The treatment of the Manchester minutes silence was reprehensible.

Was having a few problems streaming the fight around the time of the minutes silence but seen comments, what actually happened some drunk singing during it?

It felt like a whole stand did. And a bunch were vociferously booing Naz during his ring interview. Presumably it was Islam related. Not regarding his Manuel Calvo performance.

I was near the back of the stand and you couldn't hear the PA, lots were unaware of the minutes silence.

Hamed got the biggest cheer of the night but also got stick about his weight and I heard a song about him driving like a pudendum.

[wesshaw1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jbArg7kGmE

[sammy95]

https://twitter.com/FightScorecard/stat ... 7821274112

Interesting reading.

[crusader]

Brook is a very good fighter, and I had him winning through 7, but the breakdown of his eyes is worrying...seems like an issue that will just get worse too, and I doubt it takes elite guys like Spence and GGG to puff up those eyes in the future.

Spence should be a favourite against all the other welterweights, though he may've been even before today. Run Time Thurman may as well bring his track shoes...

[TheGman]

Belles talks about how if you get knocked down you have to get up and you hear Amir go 'yeah' in the background. Khans ended a night on his back more often than a £2 hooker ffs.

To be fare khan has only ever ended a fight on his back twice(prescott and canelo),and the others he got up to fight on,never taken a knee,always gets put on his ass and gets up if his legs let him,imo and i know ill get some stick but if you are the WORLD CHAMPION you should either go out on ur shield or carry on till the end;kell was IBF champ fighting in his own city at his fav teams ground and had 4 1/2 minutes to cover up throw the odd few punches and last the fight but took a knee and let the ref count him out,kell is a fighter that is happy beating the likes of gavin and jo jo dan up but when it gets put on him like carson jones 1(i know he won but still shit his undies),GGG and now spence he hasnt got the heart or the stamina to stand up and fight till the end. Its easy for us fans to sit here and say what he should of done but as world champ kell should of seen the final bell.

[Boxerbeetle]

Why has this thread been moved? We always do a round by round on the B&I forum

[straali]

Fvcking hell man why don't those at the top realise, if they make fights like this more often boxing would be huge again because it is the greatest fvcking sport in the world

This!