Putting The Boot In

[littlepug]

Unfortunately for kell the bar is set quite high in terms of what we expect from top level fighters and anything less will never be accepted by the hard core fans, all the "don't wanna risk your eyesight" talk is a normal attitude to take for regular folk but world class professional boxers are not regular people which is why we watch them sometimes in awe at their willingness to win at all costs, so while an admirable performance from kell his heart wasn't quite big enough to complete the job

[Boxerbeetle]

Some comments on here are laughable; had Kell gone back to his corner at the end of the 10th and told them he his eye was really bad; blurry and could hardly see they would have stopped it with Him on his stool and F ALL would have been said. He would not have been criticised at all for doing that and it would have been Brendan Ingle call so Okay. Kell decides to go for another round realises it just isn't going to happen and says enough is enough and all the usual keyboard World Champions jump on him

What disgusts me more than anything is Tony "I Would Die in the Ring" Bellew saying what he said on live TV. He has obviously taken one too many punches because his long term memory is shot to pieces, he clearly had forgotten the Adonis Fight where he DID BOTTLE IT so much so he tried to run away whilst turning his back on Adonis and if he had more faculties about him would have hid behind the referee if he could.

Some of the people who said Brook quit last night after a broken eye socket and going 11 rounds with a world class fighter
Will be the same people who will stand at a football match and applaud a player limping off with a twisted ankle.
Let that sink in for a moment!

Tony Bellew - SHAME ON YOU

Some absolute idiots on here, they always come out for the big fights

[SaadOffTheDeck]

One thing is for sure, Tony Indomitable Warrior Bellew has certainly been there and done it, if anyone is qualified to pass judgement on a fighters heart, it's certainly Tony Never Quit Heart the Size of Liverpool Bellew

Your're getting carried away. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony turns up in Birmingham asking you to step to.

You think I'd better quit?

Mickey doesn't do thinking.

[Tuan_Jim]

Seems like the fight was knocked out of him, so no issue with what I have heard here of the analysis from Bellew & Khan.

Brook has a chin, thus the fight needs to be knocked out of him. Khan has no chin, so he gets knocked out of fights.

Boxers are entitled to withdraw with injuries. No one wants to wind up like Matthew Saad Muhammad in later life, magnificent warrior though he was.

[Crease]

Looking forward to sewing Bellew's balloon burst, hopefully very soon.

David Haye will do for him if he gets back to 100% fitness.
I too am quiet looking forward to him shutting up.

[Crease]

Only way he is on ppv now is fighting Khan.

Agreed. Matchroom should downgrade Brook from PPV status.

Don't get me wrong, I commend him for taking the GGG fight but retirement is looking a viable option for him methinks.

[mickey1975]

Your're getting carried away. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony turns up in Birmingham asking you to step to.

You think I'd better quit?

Mickey doesn't do thinking.

I might think about kicking your head in.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Ive not seen the fight yet, im watching this evening, however, in principle id always rather see a fighter with a potentially career ending injury who is getting a beating quit when hes had enough.

[handsofstone]

Brook claims he was told by a doctor after the Golovkin injury that he might have been 1 punch away from being permanently blinded and that was running through his mind when the other eye went last night, totally understandable nobody would risk being blinded

[Finn]

Very disappointing to read some of these comments. Brook fought his heart out and stopped with a serious injury when he felt he couldn't continue as he couldn't see and risked potentially permanent and life-changing damage. Who the fvck has any right to criticise him for that? Casuals and armchair warriors!

Good thing Ali didn't have that attitude or who would have never transcended the sport.

You watch a combat sport yet don't mind fighters quiting? If he feels he should stop that's fine, but now he is finished at the top level because once you quit in anything it just makes it easier to do it again.

Also Brook was harping on about how he felt the pull out in the GGG fight was early and he was "just getting in the groove" and thought he could go on to win. Well now we know that was a load on non sense since he is now claiming it's the same injury but from a smaller opponent yet decided he couldn't go on.

You're an idiot and I'm glad the consensus is clearly against you.

The consensus isn't against me, it's against me by a a few vocal posters on here but the General consensus in the boxing community and from people who have actually fought is that he quit.

[Finn]

Unfortunately for kell the bar is set quite high in terms of what we expect from top level fighters and anything less will never be accepted by the hard core fans, all the "don't wanna risk your eyesight" talk is a normal attitude to take for regular folk but world class professional boxers are not regular people which is why we watch them sometimes in awe at their willingness to win at all costs, so while an admirable performance from kell his heart wasn't quite big enough to complete the job

Pretty much bang on

[Supremo]

If you've never done it and never been there then you're in no position to cast judgement on anyone who has. You have absolutely no understanding of what it is like and in which circumstances it is ok to quit and ok which situations it isn't?

Now THAT is an unhelpful & unhealthy attitude. Only professional fighter can comment then, eh?
I guess that is Steve Bunce and other respected pundits out of work then.
Ans Shane McGuigan as well I suppose.

Can comment on boxing and what they see on a technical levels but Steve bounce and Adam smith and most folk that watch boxing have no right to question kell brook last night. They have no understanding what goes through your mind in a fight. You can't have unless you've done it. It is too unique an experience.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but everyone doesn't have the right to have their opinion respected. I've no respect and pay no attention to anyone questioning the bravery of a fighter unless they've done it themselves.

[Finn]

https://youtu.be/TVb_-VYHFHE

IFL Bellew interview regarding Brook

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You think I'd better quit?

Mickey doesn't do thinking.

I might think about kicking your head in.

Case in point.

[saad muhammad]

Bunce boxed in the amateurs for fitzroy lodge!!

[Ned Stark]

Unfortunately for kell the bar is set quite high in terms of what we expect from top level fighters and anything less will never be accepted by the hard core fans, all the "don't wanna risk your eyesight" talk is a normal attitude to take for regular folk but world class professional boxers are not regular people which is why we watch them sometimes in awe at their willingness to win at all costs, so while an admirable performance from kell his heart wasn't quite big enough to complete the job

Pretty much bang on

No it's bollocks. I'd expect hard core boxing fans to appreciate the risks these fighters are taking just by entering the ring. Having more heart wouldn't have seen him get the job done, he was beaten. He showed heart in the tenth, many other brave warrior types would have been knocked out earlier but Kell is tough and had one last throw of the dice. More heart however could have seen him permanently damaged. But at least he'd be able to say he didn't quit, that's if he would be capable of speaking/thinking/functioning normally.
Imagine that, leaving his missus, family and himself permanently disabled because paying boxing fans only expect nothing less. Sport fans who moan about athletes that don't meet their expectations do my swede in. You pay to watch a contest, it's not a film with a script and Spence and Brook delivered. Unfortunately he was against a better opponent but us paying fans got what we paid for, a top level boxing fight between two top notch fighters.

[Ned Stark]

If you've never done it and never been there then you're in no position to cast judgement on anyone who has. You have absolutely no understanding of what it is like and in which circumstances it is ok to quit and ok which situations it isn't?

Now THAT is an unhelpful & unhealthy attitude. Only professional fighter can comment then, eh?
I guess that is Steve Bunce and other respected pundits out of work then.
Ans Shane McGuigan as well I suppose.

Can comment on boxing and what they see on a technical levels but Steve bounce and Adam smith and most folk that watch boxing have no right to question kell brook last night. They have no understanding what goes through your mind in a fight. You can't have unless you've done it. It is too unique an experience.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but everyone doesn't have the right to have their opinion respected. I've no respect and pay no attention to anyone questioning the bravery of a fighter unless they've done it themselves.

Anyone and everyone are entitled to an opinion and some non fighters can read and analyse fights brilliantly. But I'm with you when you say no fighters questioning Brooks bravery after last night, especially given his previous fight with GGG lose credibility with their opinions.

I think that's why its more annoying when Bellew, Khan and other pros that have criticised Brook because they do know the risks, they have been there and they should appreciate that Brook was brave, that he could have got the doctor involved, given up in the tenth but realised he had no chance of seeing the final bell and took a knee. Brooks actions should be applauded

[littlepug]

Unfortunately for kell the bar is set quite high in terms of what we expect from top level fighters and anything less will never be accepted by the hard core fans, all the "don't wanna risk your eyesight" talk is a normal attitude to take for regular folk but world class professional boxers are not regular people which is why we watch them sometimes in awe at their willingness to win at all costs, so while an admirable performance from kell his heart wasn't quite big enough to complete the job

Pretty much bang on

No it's bollocks. I'd expect hard core boxing fans to appreciate the risks these fighters are taking just by entering the ring. Having more heart wouldn't have seen him get the job done, he was beaten. He showed heart in the tenth, many other brave warrior types would have been knocked out earlier but Kell is tough and had one last throw of the dice. More heart however could have seen him permanently damaged. But at least he'd be able to say he didn't quit, that's if he would be capable of speaking/thinking/functioning normally.
Imagine that, leaving his missus, family and himself permanently disabled because paying boxing fans only expect nothing less. Sport fans who moan about athletes that don't meet their expectations do my swede in. You pay to watch a contest, it's not a film with a script and Spence and Brook delivered. Unfortunately he was against a better opponent but us paying fans got what we paid for, a top level boxing fight between two top notch fighters.

More heart could've seen him win it, its about how much you want it

[Crease]

Steve bounce and Adam smith and most folk that watch boxing have no right to question kell brook last night.

Okay, but I asked a different question and that was will these recurring eye socket injuries hamper Kell's future as a professional boxer - surely that is a credible & valid question.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Mickey doesn't do thinking.

I might think about kicking your head in.

Case in point.

You two should be on a panel show. Good stuff.

[Crease]

More heart could've seen him win it, its about how much you want it

Yet we'll never know because Kell chose to withdraw.
I would also add that does any other professional boxer risk any less when they enter the ring?

I think that Kell really has to consider retirement.

[Ned Stark]

Pretty much bang on

No it's bollocks. I'd expect hard core boxing fans to appreciate the risks these fighters are taking just by entering the ring. Having more heart wouldn't have seen him get the job done, he was beaten. He showed heart in the tenth, many other brave warrior types would have been knocked out earlier but Kell is tough and had one last throw of the dice. More heart however could have seen him permanently damaged. But at least he'd be able to say he didn't quit, that's if he would be capable of speaking/thinking/functioning normally.
Imagine that, leaving his missus, family and himself permanently disabled because paying boxing fans only expect nothing less. Sport fans who moan about athletes that don't meet their expectations do my swede in. You pay to watch a contest, it's not a film with a script and Spence and Brook delivered. Unfortunately he was against a better opponent but us paying fans got what we paid for, a top level boxing fight between two top notch fighters.

More heart could've seen him win it, its about how much you want it

He was second best from round 7, especially in 10. What could more heart achieve? The opponent was better, stronger and on top. Heart doesn't magic ability and strength that isn't there. He went sh1t or bust in 10 when it looked like he was about to be stopped. That was heart and it still wasn't enough. Simply, the other lad was too good and he was beat

[Boxerbeetle]

No it's bollocks. I'd expect hard core boxing fans to appreciate the risks these fighters are taking just by entering the ring. Having more heart wouldn't have seen him get the job done, he was beaten. He showed heart in the tenth, many other brave warrior types would have been knocked out earlier but Kell is tough and had one last throw of the dice. More heart however could have seen him permanently damaged. But at least he'd be able to say he didn't quit, that's if he would be capable of speaking/thinking/functioning normally.
Imagine that, leaving his missus, family and himself permanently disabled because paying boxing fans only expect nothing less. Sport fans who moan about athletes that don't meet their expectations do my swede in. You pay to watch a contest, it's not a film with a script and Spence and Brook delivered. Unfortunately he was against a better opponent but us paying fans got what we paid for, a top level boxing fight between two top notch fighters.

More heart could've seen him win it, its about how much you want it

He was second best from round 7, especially in 10. What could more heart achieve? The opponent was better, stronger and on top. Heart doesn't magic ability and strength that isn't there. He went sh1t or bust in 10 when it looked like he was about to be stopped. That was heart and it still wasn't enough. Simply, the other lad was too good and he was beat

Exactly. Some of these comments are frankly pathetic. Wanting to see a man seriously injured just to show some 'heart'. I always thought this was a proper boxing forum for people who understand the sport and respect the fighters, but seems I was wrong

[Ned Stark]

More heart could've seen him win it, its about how much you want it

Yet we'll never know because Kell chose to withdraw.
I would also add that does any other professional boxer risk any less when they enter the ring?

I think that Kell really has to consider retirement.

We'll never know? The man in the ring knew he was beat.

[Crease]

We'll never know? The man in the ring knew he was beat.

One punch can change everything.