Brook beat Porter and publicly begged Khan to fight him,Khan refused by using several different excuses like i have previously mentioned,now Brook has 2 losses and no title,Khan will offer crap money knowing Brook will say shove it,it's quite simple really,Khan has avoided Brook for years and every poster on here would agree i'm sure.
Brook had to fight a mandatory after beating Porter. How could he have fought Khan?
And can I ask, why has Brook been so interested in Khan anyway when he's never even been a top welterweight? What's laughable is Brook is better than Khan but Khan was a much better champion than Brook. Brook fought no one and has now lost his title.
Mandatory fights can be put off by paying step aside money,he could have fought Khan straight after Jo Jo Dan,and the reason he wanted Khan so much is to get,wait for it,A BIG PAYDAY
Only Khan, Brook, their solicitors and the promoter really know what went on in negotiations and they all have an axe to grind so any public pronouncements they make on the matter should be taken with a pinch of salt. Everybody else is just guessing.
I think Khan finds particularly distasteful the way that Brook and particularly Hearn have made personal attacks on him safely tucked away in a room with Kugan and would rather cut off his nose to spite his face than give them a payday.
Khan doesn't need the money, he's a bigger draw than Brook and he has wider interests outside boxing that keep him busy (insert your own wanking joke here).
There are real paralleles with the Hatton Witter situation here. I don't see this fight ever being made.
Brook beat Porter and publicly begged Khan to fight him,Khan refused by using several different excuses like i have previously mentioned,now Brook has 2 losses and no title,Khan will offer crap money knowing Brook will say shove it,it's quite simple really,Khan has avoided Brook for years and every poster on here would agree i'm sure.
Brook had to fight a mandatory after beating Porter. How could he have fought Khan?
And can I ask, why has Brook been so interested in Khan anyway when he's never even been a top welterweight? What's laughable is Brook is better than Khan but Khan was a much better champion than Brook. Brook fought no one and has now lost his title.
Mandatory fights can be put off by paying step aside money,he could have fought Khan straight after Jo Jo Dan,and the reason he wanted Khan so much is to get,wait for it,A BIG PAYDAY
Rather than actually trying to be a top welterweight. Brilliant. Khan fought everyone at 140 at the time, he was what a champion should be. Brook has never been interested in that, he just wanted the easy pay day against a fighter who's never even proven himself at the weight class. Khan will be rightly remembered much better than Brook as Brook will just be forgotten now.
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Brook had to fight a mandatory after beating Porter. How could he have fought Khan?
And can I ask, why has Brook been so interested in Khan anyway when he's never even been a top welterweight? What's laughable is Brook is better than Khan but Khan was a much better champion than Brook. Brook fought no one and has now lost his title.
Mandatory fights can be put off by paying step aside money,he could have fought Khan straight after Jo Jo Dan,and the reason he wanted Khan so much is to get,wait for it,A BIG PAYDAY
Rather than actually trying to be a top welterweight. Brilliant. Khan fought everyone at 140 at the time, he was what a champion should be. Brook has never been interested in that, he just wanted the easy pay day against a fighter who's never even proven himself at the weight class. Khan will be rightly remembered much better than Brook as Brook will just be forgotten now.
You really haven't paid much attention the whole Khan v Brook thing have you,what's so bad about wanting to fight Khan for a big payday,i always thought that was the whole idea of boxing ?
bigjack wrote:
Mandatory fights can be put off by paying step aside money,he could have fought Khan straight after Jo Jo Dan,and the reason he wanted Khan so much is to get,wait for it,A BIG PAYDAY
Rather than actually trying to be a top welterweight. Brilliant. Khan fought everyone at 140 at the time, he was what a champion should be. Brook has never been interested in that, he just wanted the easy pay day against a fighter who's never even proven himself at the weight class. Khan will be rightly remembered much better than Brook as Brook will just be forgotten now.
You really haven't paid much attention the whole Khan v Brook thing have you,what's so bad about wanting to fight Khan for a big payday,i always thought that was the whole idea of boxing ?
And I always thought it was about trying to be the best fighter in your division. I have paid perfectly close attention. Brook has been wanting this fight for years because of the money rather than trying to cement his own legacy. Khan has never been a top welterweight, that Brook has been begging for the fight proves he had no interest in being the best at his weight.
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Rather than actually trying to be a top welterweight. Brilliant. Khan fought everyone at 140 at the time, he was what a champion should be. Brook has never been interested in that, he just wanted the easy pay day against a fighter who's never even proven himself at the weight class. Khan will be rightly remembered much better than Brook as Brook will just be forgotten now.
You really haven't paid much attention the whole Khan v Brook thing have you,what's so bad about wanting to fight Khan for a big payday,i always thought that was the whole idea of boxing ?
And I always thought it was about trying to be the best fighter in your division. I have paid perfectly close attention. Brook has been wanting this fight for years because of the money rather than trying to cement his own legacy. Khan has never been a top welterweight, that Brook has been begging for the fight proves he had no interest in being the best at his weight.
As you said before,Brook had 2 mandatory fights to take care of,then stepped up just like many great fighters have in the past,failed but got a big payday,then against his own teams advice he took on his mandatory again,wouldn't have been a massive payday but in his own words'i wanted to prove i'm the best welterweight',i fail to see why you struggle to understand all this .
bigjack wrote:
You really haven't paid much attention the whole Khan v Brook thing have you,what's so bad about wanting to fight Khan for a big payday,i always thought that was the whole idea of boxing ?
And I always thought it was about trying to be the best fighter in your division. I have paid perfectly close attention. Brook has been wanting this fight for years because of the money rather than trying to cement his own legacy. Khan has never been a top welterweight, that Brook has been begging for the fight proves he had no interest in being the best at his weight.
As you said before,Brook had 2 mandatory fights to take care of,then stepped up just like many great fighters have in the past,failed but got a big payday,then against his own teams advice he took on his mandatory again,wouldn't have been a massive payday but in his own words'i wanted to prove i'm the best welterweight',i fail to see why you struggle to understand all this .
He didn't have two mandatory fights. He fought Gavin who wasn't mandatory between them. Why didn't he take on a top world class welter when he fought Gavin?
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
And I always thought it was about trying to be the best fighter in your division. I have paid perfectly close attention. Brook has been wanting this fight for years because of the money rather than trying to cement his own legacy. Khan has never been a top welterweight, that Brook has been begging for the fight proves he had no interest in being the best at his weight.
As you said before,Brook had 2 mandatory fights to take care of,then stepped up just like many great fighters have in the past,failed but got a big payday,then against his own teams advice he took on his mandatory again,wouldn't have been a massive payday but in his own words'i wanted to prove i'm the best welterweight',i fail to see why you struggle to understand all this .
He didn't have two mandatory fights. He fought Gavin who wasn't mandatory between them. Why didn't he take on a top world class welter when he fought Gavin?
Bizier and Dan were both mandatory fights,he thought the Khan fight was close at the time and took Gavin quite late
CaptainSpacerod wrote:Only Khan, Brook, their solicitors and the promoter really know what went on in negotiations and they all have an axe to grind so any public pronouncements they make on the matter should be taken with a pinch of salt. Everybody else is just guessing.
I think Khan finds particularly distasteful the way that Brook and particularly Hearn have made personal attacks on him safely tucked away in a room with Kugan and would rather cut off his nose to spite his face than give them a payday.
Khan doesn't need the money, he's a bigger draw than Brook and he has wider interests outside boxing that keep him busy (insert your own wanking joke here).
There are real paralleles with the Hatton Witter situation here. I don't see this fight ever being made.
Is Khan a bigger draw than Brook? Serious question. He's a more famous celebrity, but has a crowd ever shown up to see him fight? The only one I can remember is Barrera, but that was because a legend was fighting.
bigjack wrote:
As you said before,Brook had 2 mandatory fights to take care of,then stepped up just like many great fighters have in the past,failed but got a big payday,then against his own teams advice he took on his mandatory again,wouldn't have been a massive payday but in his own words'i wanted to prove i'm the best welterweight',i fail to see why you struggle to understand all this .
He didn't have two mandatory fights. He fought Gavin who wasn't mandatory between them. Why didn't he take on a top world class welter when he fought Gavin?
Bizier and Dan were both mandatory fights,he thought the Khan fight was close at the time and took Gavin quite late
Yes they were but he fought Gavin in between them, why did he choose a meaningless Gavin fight instead of putting on a show against a top ranked welter? He's never been interested in fighting the best. He wanted Khan cause it's an easy win and pay day. I have no respect for that at all. Khan fought the top LWWs as champion and went straight in against the number one when he lost, if only Brook had that ambition. Khan was twice the champion Brook was. It just makes me sad knowing that when they do fight Brook is too big and too good for him, I'd love to see Khan beat him.
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
He didn't have two mandatory fights. He fought Gavin who wasn't mandatory between them. Why didn't he take on a top world class welter when he fought Gavin?
Bizier and Dan were both mandatory fights,he thought the Khan fight was close at the time and took Gavin quite late
Yes they were but he fought Gavin in between them, why did he choose a meaningless Gavin fight instead of putting on a show against a top ranked welter? He's never been interested in fighting the best. He wanted Khan cause it's an easy win and pay day. I have no respect for that at all. Khan fought the top LWWs as champion and went straight in against the number one when he lost, if only Brook had that ambition. Khan was twice the champion Brook was. It just makes me sad knowing that when they do fight Brook is too big and too good for him, I'd love to see Khan beat him.
Khan will not take the fight and he'll blame Brook for it.
bigjack wrote:
Bizier and Dan were both mandatory fights,he thought the Khan fight was close at the time and took Gavin quite late
Yes they were but he fought Gavin in between them, why did he choose a meaningless Gavin fight instead of putting on a show against a top ranked welter? He's never been interested in fighting the best. He wanted Khan cause it's an easy win and pay day. I have no respect for that at all. Khan fought the top LWWs as champion and went straight in against the number one when he lost, if only Brook had that ambition. Khan was twice the champion Brook was. It just makes me sad knowing that when they do fight Brook is too big and too good for him, I'd love to see Khan beat him.
Khan will not take the fight and he'll blame Brook for it.
Of course he will. Khan is now fighting for the best money available. Unless he somehow gets a Pacquaio fight no one else can offer him the money Brook can.
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Yes they were but he fought Gavin in between them, why did he choose a meaningless Gavin fight instead of putting on a show against a top ranked welter? He's never been interested in fighting the best. He wanted Khan cause it's an easy win and pay day. I have no respect for that at all. Khan fought the top LWWs as champion and went straight in against the number one when he lost, if only Brook had that ambition. Khan was twice the champion Brook was. It just makes me sad knowing that when they do fight Brook is too big and too good for him, I'd love to see Khan beat him.
Khan will not take the fight and he'll blame Brook for it.
Of course he will. Khan is now fighting for the best money available. Unless he somehow gets a Pacquaio fight no one else can offer him the money Brook can.
HE WILL OFFER CRAP MONEY TO BROOK and the fight won't happen,the fight could have been made a hundred times before for more money,titles and probably a bigger crowd but Khan came up with a million excuses,why do you think he''ll now fight him ?
bigjack wrote:
Khan will not take the fight and he'll blame Brook for it.
Of course he will. Khan is now fighting for the best money available. Unless he somehow gets a Pacquaio fight no one else can offer him the money Brook can.
HE WILL OFFER CRAP MONEY TO BROOK and the fight won't happen,the fight could have been made a hundred times before for more money,titles and probably a bigger crowd but Khan came up with a million excuses,why do you think he''ll now fight him ?
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Of course he will. Khan is now fighting for the best money available. Unless he somehow gets a Pacquaio fight no one else can offer him the money Brook can.
HE WILL OFFER CRAP MONEY TO BROOK and the fight won't happen,the fight could have been made a hundred times before for more money,titles and probably a bigger crowd but Khan came up with a million excuses,why do you think he''ll now fight him ?
Do I have to repeat what I just wrote?
When the fight gets signed you come back on here and say ' i told you so' until then i don't believe it will
bigjack wrote:
HE WILL OFFER CRAP MONEY TO BROOK and the fight won't happen,the fight could have been made a hundred times before for more money,titles and probably a bigger crowd but Khan came up with a million excuses,why do you think he''ll now fight him ?
Do I have to repeat what I just wrote?
When the fight gets signed you come back on here and say ' i told you so' until then i don't believe it will
The Brook Khan fight has lost some of its appeal IMO. It's still a good fight and it'll sell but if Eddie is thinking of making it a stadium type fight then he's gonna have to crank the Matchroom hype machine up a few notches. Kell has now lost his last two both by stoppage via injuries. Khan hasn't fought in over a year since a bad KO and doesn't seem to have anything in the pipeline. The fight might not even happen now because I'm sure all involved will already have a certain number in mind with regards to money and the fight isn't as big as it was a year or two ago. I always say you strike while the irons hot in boxing and Brook/Khan might have missed their chance. Hopefully it still happens but all parties involved will need to alter their position money wise.
Stuarty30 wrote:The Brook Khan fight has lost some of its appeal IMO. It's still a good fight and it'll sell but if Eddie is thinking of making it a stadium type fight then he's gonna have to crank the Matchroom hype machine up a few notches. Kell has now lost his last two both by stoppage via injuries. Khan hasn't fought in over a year since a bad KO and doesn't seem to have anything in the pipeline. The fight might not even happen now because I'm sure all involved will already have a certain number in mind with regards to money and the fight isn't as big as it was a year or two ago. I always say you strike while the irons hot in boxing and Brook/Khan might have missed their chance. Hopefully it still happens but all parties involved will need to alter their position money wise.
This,Khan won't back down on the money as he is delusional as far as his own worth is concerned and the figures won't add up,should have struck while the iron was hot as Stuarty said.
Stuarty30 wrote:The Brook Khan fight has lost some of its appeal IMO. It's still a good fight and it'll sell but if Eddie is thinking of making it a stadium type fight then he's gonna have to crank the Matchroom hype machine up a few notches. Kell has now lost his last two both by stoppage via injuries. Khan hasn't fought in over a year since a bad KO and doesn't seem to have anything in the pipeline. The fight might not even happen now because I'm sure all involved will already have a certain number in mind with regards to money and the fight isn't as big as it was a year or two ago. I always say you strike while the irons hot in boxing and Brook/Khan might have missed their chance. Hopefully it still happens but all parties involved will need to alter their position money wise.
I think both lads will regret not making the fight 2 years ago in a few years time, it could have been huge outdoor event but will now be just a grudge thing at the MEN for
way less cash.
After 2 back to back stoppage and career threatening facial injuries. Khan now really fancies his chances and wants to make it happen...
Problem is after Amir Khans years of self enforced inactivity chasing a big fight with any big names except Kell Brook and his own brutal knockout defeats. I think everyone else has lost all interest.
Maybe if they got Hatton/Witter or Bowe//Lewis on the undercard, I'd be interested.
Tuan_Jim wrote:
Is Khan a bigger draw than Brook? Serious question. He's a more famous celebrity, but has a crowd ever shown up to see him fight? The only one I can remember is Barrera, but that was because a legend was fighting.
I suspect that PPV or TV money is the biggest part of the revenue a fight produces in all but the Wembley spectacular type shows and as such it's more important to ask whether people would switch their tv on to watch Khan rather than who would buy a ticket for the fight. I think more people will tune in to watch Amir simply because more people have heard of him both here and in USA and so in that regard yes I think he's a bigger draw than Brook.
Brook beat Porter and publicly begged Khan to fight him,Khan refused by using several different excuses like i have previously mentioned,now Brook has 2 losses and no title,Khan will offer crap money knowing Brook will say shove it,it's quite simple really,Khan has avoided Brook for years and every poster on here would agree i'm sure.
Khan is known for avoiding British fighters in case he loses to one and becomes 2nd best in Britain. Khan v Brook would not be PPV, top of the bill fight only and the loser would have to retire. There wasnt much chance of it coming off before, and a lot less chance of it happening now.
Khan's profile has really dipped although I think Brook hasn't got the best W's on his CV he would beat Khan because he lacks power at 47 to trouble him !
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