Did Brook Disgrace Himself or Preserve Himself?

Tomasino · Post by **Tomasino** » 29 May 2017, 12:35

Simple question that's been extensively discussed elsewhere, I just want to see a poll on it

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 29 May 2017, 12:37

Tomasino wrote:Simple question that's been extensively discussed elsewhere, I just want to see a poll on it

I dont think he discraced himself but i think he gave up instead of digging deep, put it this way i wouldnt be bothered about watching him fight on ppv again.

forcefraser · Post by **forcefraser** » 29 May 2017, 12:38

The poll makes no sense. If the options are yes or no you cant have two variables in the question?

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 29 May 2017, 12:38

also whats the poll - theres two opposing questions and the answer is yes or no

kbackup408 · Post by **kbackup408** » 29 May 2017, 13:10

Tomasino wrote:Simple question that's been extensively discussed elsewhere, I just want to see a poll on it

Preserve himself mate going 11 rounds with a hungry lion is respectable

rm1 · Post by **rm1** » 29 May 2017, 13:26

Brook was clearly in great pain couldn't see and worried about further eye damage he was also losing the fight. As such you can hardly blame him for not wanting another horrendous op. if he had lost his sight in one eye would that have been good for boxing ?

boxingknockout · Post by **boxingknockout** » 29 May 2017, 13:33

Finn wrote:also whats the poll - theres two opposing questions and the answer is yes or no

Yes I would like a midway option. You

Tarkus · Post by **Tarkus** » 29 May 2017, 13:36

none of the above.

CaptainSpacerod · Post by **CaptainSpacerod** » 29 May 2017, 13:37

Good idea. Things have been getting a little heated on the other threads.

Ossyrules · Post by **Ossyrules** » 29 May 2017, 13:41

Anyone who voted disgrace have never had a fight or just plain don't get boxing

CharlesListon · Post by **CharlesListon** » 29 May 2017, 16:02

Neither.

You have clearly never boxed, know any boxers, been around any gyms or have an understanding of boxing to have to ask the question. I don't mean to offend you with that, but that's the way it is. By all means be an interested fan, be an armchair critic and feel that you can get answers on a forum if you like.

Anyone who answered 'disgrace' is a moron.

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 29 May 2017, 16:22

Voted preserve but having watched the fight ending again it just looks so bad

Honestly I wish he just put his gloves to his head took a bodyshot and rolled over.

TheLeprechaun · Post by **TheLeprechaun** » 29 May 2017, 16:24

Threads like this are poor. What if you think he disgraced and preserved himself?

CharlesListon · Post by **CharlesListon** » 29 May 2017, 16:25

lefthook82 wrote:Voted preserve but having watched the fight ending again it just looks so bad

Honestly I wish he just put his gloves to his head took a bodyshot and rolled over.

Why?

It was his eye socket broken, not his ribs.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 29 May 2017, 16:29

Have any of the "disgrace" voters had their eye sockets broken in a boxing match and gone on to finish the fight?

CharlesListon · Post by **CharlesListon** » 29 May 2017, 16:30

dr_devious wrote:Have any of the "disgrace" voters had their eye sockets broken in a boxing match and gone on to finish the fight?

I can answer that. No.

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 29 May 2017, 16:52

CharlesListon wrote:
lefthook82 wrote:Voted preserve but having watched the fight ending again it just looks so bad

Honestly I wish he just put his gloves to his head took a bodyshot and rolled over.
Why?

It was his eye socket broken, not his ribs.

I think that his "wish" is that Brook faked a ktfo due to body shot.

forcefraser · Post by **forcefraser** » 29 May 2017, 16:59

The two options here leave no room for middle ground.

Brook quit, but he did it for understandable reasons if he his eye is as a bad as it appears. It was not a disgrace, but he still quit and in boxing that carries a lot of stigma, regardless of the reasons he quit. There was doctor at ringside who could have been called at any time from round 7 (when it appears the eye went), there is his corner who also knew what was going on. Any of them could have stopped the fight but they didn`t, Brook stopped it for all intents and purpose (well he left the ref no choice but to stop it)

It was not a disgrace, but like Bellew, (I can`t lie, I`m not built like that, I just can`t man, I`ll fight til there`s nottin left, it`s just me, I scare myself etc etc ) it was very disappointing to see him quit like that.

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 29 May 2017, 17:06

Tanzio wrote:
CharlesListon wrote:
lefthook82 wrote:Voted preserve but having watched the fight ending again it just looks so bad

Honestly I wish he just put his gloves to his head took a bodyshot and rolled over.
Why?

It was his eye socket broken, not his ribs.
I think that his "wish" is that Brook faked a ktfo due to body shot.

Yes, that would have been a much more noble way to bow out

Tomasino · Post by **Tomasino** » 29 May 2017, 17:27

CharlesListon wrote:Neither.

You have clearly never boxed, know any boxers, been around any gyms or have an understanding of boxing to have to ask the question. I don't mean to offend you with that, but that's the way it is. By all means be an interested fan, be an armchair critic and feel that you can get answers on a forum if you like.

Anyone who answered 'disgrace' is a moron.

Are you talking to me? If you are you couldn't be more wrong, I'm afraid.

TheGman · Post by **TheGman** » 29 May 2017, 17:30

The fight was a good fight but the end left me questioning brooks commitment to being a top fighter,he chose to go down and be counted out and he chose to lose his title that way so i say he disgraced himself when we talk about maidana vs ortiz we say was a great fight but then say ortiz quit and i say the same about this fight

Tomasino · Post by **Tomasino** » 29 May 2017, 18:02

forcefraser wrote:The poll makes no sense. If the options are yes or no you cant have two variables in the question?

Sorted.

kingoftheringsting · Post by **kingoftheringsting** » 29 May 2017, 18:15

I think it's fine to retire through injury. Boxing has come a long way and I think if you have a broken eye socket, it's entirely fair enough to stop fighting.

BitPlayer · Post by **BitPlayer** » 29 May 2017, 19:19

He didn't disgrace himself, but I think that fight could really fvck up his career.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 29 May 2017, 21:02

Brook did himself proud.