WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

DeGale vs. Groves Winner?

James DeGale
95
58%
George Groves
70
42%
 
Total votes: 165

Jackson328
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by Jackson328 »

I wonder if Groves has earned enough to comfortably retire? He's always struck me as a very intelligent and emotional guy, he's finally climbed the mountain after so many disappointments and he sure as hell wouldn't like to risk losing his title to Degale at the first point down. He already beat Chunky in the am's and the pro's albeit a long time ago so its not like he has a monkey on his back about it and a future bout would no doubt stir up a lot of old bad feelings. He also seems to be still affected by the Gutnecht situation and thats a terrible cross to bear despite no blame attached to himself. Anyone else think he may just walk away earlier than expected?
Bodyshot3
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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I wonder if Groves has earned enough to comfortably retire? He's always struck me as a very intelligent and emotional guy, he's finally climbed the mountain after so many disappointments and he sure as hell wouldn't like to risk losing his title to Degale at the first point down. He already beat Chunky in the am's and the pro's albeit a long time ago so its not like he has a monkey on his back about it and a future bout would no doubt stir up a lot of old bad feelings. He also seems to be still affected by the Gutnecht situation and thats a terrible cross to bear despite no blame attached to himself. Anyone else think he may just walk away earlier than expected?
Interesting scenario Jackson :TU:

For what its worth I think that James and George will meet again....but this time it will be about doing good, profitable business with each other.

Sure we'll get some sharp words to sell the fight (they need folk to watch and buy in big numbers) but they're no longer young pros with London gym spats to resolve and for both guys while the end is not exactly nigh; it is at least in sight and must be a consideration.

And in all likelihood both guys probably realise that the other is his best option in terms of securing genuine, financial security.

"I need you and you need me."

It is probably inaccurate to draw a parallel with the second Benn-Eubank encounter, mainly because Benn was never in the mood to forgive and absolutely had Eubank in his sights.

But there are certain similarities as well - longish careers already under their belts - and a realisation that the other guy could put the best money in your own bank account.

That may also leave Callum Smith waiting patiently for the outcome.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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Up until DeGale fought Jack I would've picked James to beat George with something to spare but I fear that fight has taken a lot out of James.

George on points for me, a bit wider than their first fight.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Carl Froch: I Will Definitely Say it Now - Groves Will Beat DeGale! - See more at: http://www.BS.com/carl-froch-i ... B4DnG.dpuf
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by Vincent stevenson »

This is a fight where the trainers can really make a diffence and whilst i really rate shane mcguigan i think that without the guile and tactics of adam booth george will come up a wee bit short. Degale on points for me
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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I'm interested in how Degale looks next time, assuming he's not facing a scrub. The Jack fight was grueling, and he looked pretty average before that against a guy who was just destroyed by David Benavidez.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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I find it a hard fight to call this time around.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by wesshaw1985 »

DeGale: Groves Does NOT Deserve a 50-50 Split in Rematch - See more at: http://www.BS.com/degale-grove ... cSFTk.dpuf

let the games begin...
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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Groves Laughs at DeGale Demanding Bigger Split of Money - See more at: http://www.BS.com/groves-laugh ... YJDNi.dpuf
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by brilo33 »

i think groves will win it, de gale switches of too much these day, i dont know ,didnt vote to close, this is the fight i will pay to see or go too
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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DeGale: I'd Like To Fight Groves Again, But I Don't Need Him - http://www.BS.com/degale-id-li ... im--121329
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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Groves beats DeGale on this showing...
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by jamamb »

never thought groves had faded as much as ppl say.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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Groves

He was never as gone as people reckon

Stick a fork in DeGale
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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wesshaw1985 wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 20:02
Classy from Groves. He could have been eviscerating. Imagine Chunky's graceless gloating if George had lost to Truax.
fightfaninfrance
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by fightfaninfrance »

Booth to train Degale and help him beat Groves. I’m calling it now.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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DeGale ain't beating groves
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

Post by Taansend »

Not that anyone gives a f*ck but I watched the first bout just after I'd moved to Santa Barbara in California.

Since then I've moved to Goleta, Fort Lauderdale, Bonita Beach, Naples, Sarasota & now St Petersburg.

Something ain't right.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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wesshaw1985 wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 18:51 Groves beats DeGale on this showing...
Smiff beats Degale on this showing.

Paul, that is.
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Re: WHO WINS? James DeGale vs. George Groves 2

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wesshaw1985 wrote: 09 Dec 2017, 18:51 Groves beats DeGale on this showing...
My next door neighbour's cat would beat DeGale based upon his latest showing.

He does appear to be slowing down.

All his fights are hard slogs these days & every time you have a hard fight, it ages you even more.

It's amazing how tides can turn in such a short space of time.
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