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A pretty daunting run of world title fights for me would be Iran Barkleys 4 fight run starting with Tommy Hearns and followed by Duran, Nunn and Benn ! Any others ?
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littlepug wrote:A pretty daunting run of world title fights for me would be Iran Barkleys 4 fight run starting with Tommy Hearns and followed by Duran, Nunn and Benn ! Any others ?
Off the top of my head Froch had a pretty tough run
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Controversial wrote:
littlepug wrote:A pretty daunting run of world title fights for me would be Iran Barkleys 4 fight run starting with Tommy Hearns and followed by Duran, Nunn and Benn ! Any others ?
Off the top of my head Froch had a pretty tough run
Pascal,taylor,Dirrell,kessler,abraham,johnson,ward and bute is a tough run by anyone standard
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Paul Berlanbach won the light heavyweight title against Mike McTigue. He successfully defended the title against Jimmy Slattery (future champion and HOFer) Jack Delaney (future champion and HOFer) and Young Stribling (HOFer). He lost the title to Delaney.

Ray Robinson won the middleweight title against Jake LaMotta (HOFer). Lost it to Randy Turpin (HOFer). Won it back from Turpin. Defended the title against Bobo Olson (HOFer) and Rocky Graziano (HOFer).

Three years later Robinson ran another streak. He won the middleweight title for the 3rd time by defeating Olsen again. Defended the title against Olsen. Lost the title to Gene Fullmer (another HOFer). Won it back from Fullmer. Lost it to Carmen Basilio (yet another HOFer). Won the title for the 5th and last time against Basilio.
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Wait a minute I thought Robinson was a very protected fighter...what gives?

That must be a list of his body guards....not the guys he fought.
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Manny Pacquaio run is pretty impressive
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littlepug wrote:
Controversial wrote:
littlepug wrote:A pretty daunting run of world title fights for me would be Iran Barkleys 4 fight run starting with Tommy Hearns and followed by Duran, Nunn and Benn ! Any others ?
Off the top of my head Froch had a pretty tough run
Pascal,taylor,Dirrell,kessler,abraham,johnson,ward and bute is a tough run by anyone standard
Also many were outside the UK, he fought Taylor in America, Kessler in Denmark, Abraham in Finland, Johnson in America and Ward in America.
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I am not sure if this fits the category as you mean it . . .

Jersey Joe Walcott's saga always moved me - winning it on the fifth try an all

'47 Louis L SD
'48 Louis L KO 11
'49 Charles L UD
'51 Charles L UD
'51 Charles W KO 7
'52 Charles W UD
'52 Marciano L KO 13
'53 Marciano L KO 1
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littlepug wrote:Pascal,taylor,Dirrell,kessler,abraham,johnson,ward and bute is a tough run by anyone standard
Aside from Pascal, Taylor, Kessler, Abraham, Johnson, and Bute it was a damned tough run... I'll go so far as say Froch was a great fighter (a little light on the boxing skills) but the only great fighter on Froch's list is Ward..

James Toney fighting Middleweight Title Fights against Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, and Mike McCallum in a 7 month period is the toughest I can think of right off the bat...It's pretty tough to find ANY tough runs... Boxers are in the business of keeping their titles not looking to get knocked off.
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APerno wrote:I am not sure if this fits the category as you mean it . . .

Jersey Joe Walcott's saga always moved me - winning it on the fifth try an all

'47 Louis L SD
'48 Louis L KO 11
'49 Charles L UD
'51 Charles L UD
'51 Charles W KO 7
'52 Charles W UD
'52 Marciano L KO 13
'53 Marciano L KO 1
On the surface it sounds unbelievable... But when you peel it back Louis was gone at that time... Charles was great for the first 2 Walcott fights...but Charles fell off a cliff in the 3rd fight and had nothing for the 4th fight.. Marciano was a tough first fight.. In the rematch Walcott cashed out and took an early count in the 1st round.. He could easily have gotten up if he wanted to continue.. So that's 3 tough fights against small Heavyweights -- all of which Walcott lost.
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On paper Hagler, lalonde, hearns, Duran and Norris looks a fearsome run for leonard
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littlepug wrote:On paper Hagler, lalonde, hearns, Duran and Norris looks a fearsome run for leonard
Only Hagler looked fearsome ... All the rest were all DUCKS who Leonard fought to avoid Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, and Julian Jackson.

Leonard pulled a Canelo... First, he abandoned the Middleweight Title he won from Hagler –- cuz the top contenders were extremely tough at 160

Then the WBC—the most corrupt org in Boxing—created a new World Title for Leonard at 168.. Leonard bribed Donny Lalonde with millions to shed 7 pounds beyond his natural dried out weight of 175 to fight Ray for the new "vacant" title — but unlike Chad Dawson when he fought Andre Ward - or Iran Barkley when he fought James Toney — Lalonde's 175-pound title was ALSO at stake... Sooooooo accommodating of the WBC.

Then Leonard was allowed to defend his new 168 title at 160 — against whoever he pleased... Hearns and Duran had done nothing to earn legitimate World Title shots at 168... In fact, Duran weighed 158 for his 168 Title Fight vs Leonard... Hearns weighed 162.5... Leonard weighed 160 for both fights.

Next, Leonard still wanted to avoid the top 160-pounders... Terry Norris seemed like a chinny dude because he was iced by Julian Jackson a couple fights earlier – and he owned a World Title at 154... The fight was arranged... Like they say – Boxing is not a sport it's a business.
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Kalan wrote:
littlepug wrote:On paper Hagler, lalonde, hearns, Duran and Norris looks a fearsome run for leonard
Only Hagler looked fearsome ... All the rest were all DUCKS who Leonard fought to avoid Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, and Julian Jackson.

Leonard pulled a Canelo... First, he abandoned the Middleweight Title he won from Hagler –- cuz the top contenders were extremely tough at 160

Then the WBC—the most corrupt org in Boxing—created a new World Title for Leonard at 168.. Leonard bribed Donny Lalonde with millions to shed 7 pounds beyond his natural dried out weight of 175 to fight Ray for the new "vacant" title — but unlike Chad Dawson when he fought Andre Ward - or Iran Barkley when he fought James Toney — Lalonde's 175-pound title was ALSO at stake... Sooooooo accommodating of the WBC.

Then Leonard was allowed to defend his new 168 title at 160 — against whoever he pleased... Hearns and Duran had done nothing to earn legitimate World Title shots at 168... In fact, Duran weighed 158 for his 168 Title Fight vs Leonard... Hearns weighed 162.5... Leonard weighed 160 for both fights.

Next, Leonard still wanted to avoid the top 160-pounders... Terry Norris seemed like a chinny dude because he was iced by Julian Jackson a couple fights earlier – and he owned a World Title at 154... The fight was arranged... Like they say – Boxing is not a sport it's a business.
leonard wasn't gonna take on the world at that stage of his career, he had already done that in his prime at welter, those guys you mentioned were too big and young for him at that time and wouldn't have got him the paydays the other guys did, in fact it was only the Duran fight that turned out to be a dud the other fights were quite entertaining
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littlepug wrote:leonard wasn't gonna take on the world at that stage of his career, he had already done that in his prime at welter, those guys you mentioned were too big and young for him at that time and wouldn't have got him the paydays
LOL.. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Michael Nunn would have been a blockbuster fight at that time... Fans would have loved it... Nunn was a big, tall, slick, undefeated southpaw boxer and a dangerous hitter... It would be Wladimir Klitschko taking on Anthony Joshua -- only Leonard was 10 years younger than Klitschko

Leonard was only 30 when he signed to fight Hagler and he had only 34 fights... So his next fight he needed to tone it down because of his age???

What if Gennady Golovkin said, "Hey man...I'm 35 years old.. Canelo is too young and strong for me.. I want Nathan Cleverly to come down to 168 and fight me for the vacant WBC Super Middleweight Title... Then I want both the Super Middleweight Title and Cleverly's Light Heavyweight Title to be on the line because I want both of them... Then I want the WBC to let me defend the Super Middleweight Title at 160 pounds and fight Kell Brook again. Forget Canelo, Eubank, and Jacobs... I'm not going to fight guys who are that dangerous and hard to beat at my age."
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Kalan wrote:
littlepug wrote:leonard wasn't gonna take on the world at that stage of his career, he had already done that in his prime at welter, those guys you mentioned were too big and young for him at that time and wouldn't have got him the paydays
LOL.. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Michael Nunn would have been a blockbuster fight at that time... Fans would have loved it... Nunn was a big, tall, slick, undefeated southpaw boxer and a dangerous hitter... It would be Wladimir Klitschko taking on Anthony Joshua -- only Leonard was 10 years younger than Klitschko

Leonard was only 30 when he signed to fight Hagler and he had only 34 fights... So his next fight he needed to tone it down because of his age???

What if Gennady Golovkin said, "Hey man...I'm 35 years old.. Canelo is too young and strong for me.. I want Nathan Cleverly to come down to 168 and fight me for the vacant WBC Super Middleweight Title... Then I want both the Super Middleweight Title and Cleverly's Light Heavyweight Title to be on the line because I want both of them... Then I want the WBC to let me defend the Super Middleweight Title at 160 pounds and fight Kell Brook again. Forget Canelo, Eubank, and Jacobs... I'm not going to fight guys who are that dangerous and hard to beat at my age."
Can't use GGG as a comparison as he has been consistently active whilst leonards career was very much stop-start, Leonard was already on the slide by the time the Hagler fight came around and the Nunn fight was only seriously talked about after the Hearns rematch by which time he was very much on the slide and wouldn't of dreamt of taking on the number one guy in a division he really didn't belong in.
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Might not be THE most daunting, but a difficult 8 fight streak (6 were title fights) for Rafael Herrera from late '71 through '74: C Castillo, Olivares, Pinder, Olivares again, R Martinez, Borkhorsor, Anaya and R Martinez again.

Not all of Holyfield's fights in this run could be called daunting, but just look at how many were! 1990-2003, again not all but mostly title fights: Douglas, Foreman, Cooper, Holmes, Bowe, Stewart, Bowe, Moorer, Mercer, Bowe, Czyz, Tyson, Tyson, Moorer, Bean, Lewis, Lewis, Ruiz, Ruiz, Ruiz, Rahman, Byrd and Toney. Ouch.

There's probably a few more like that but those were two that stood out after a bit of quick record re-checking.
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HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:Might not be THE most daunting, but a difficult 8 fight streak (6 were title fights) for Rafael Herrera from late '71 through '74: C Castillo, Olivares, Pinder, Olivares again, R Martinez, Borkhorsor, Anaya and R Martinez again.

Not all of Holyfield's fights in this run could be called daunting, but just look at how many were! 1990-2003, again not all but mostly title fights: Douglas, Foreman, Cooper, Holmes, Bowe, Stewart, Bowe, Moorer, Mercer, Bowe, Czyz, Tyson, Tyson, Moorer, Bean, Lewis, Lewis, Ruiz, Ruiz, Ruiz, Rahman, Byrd and Toney. Ouch.

There's probably a few more like that but those were two that stood out after a bit of quick record re-checking.
yeah Oscar de la hoya who had 20 odd consectutive fights against the good and the great of the welter, light middle and middleweight divisions
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Ossyrules wrote:Manny Pacquaio run is pretty impressive
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