Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

[asdfjkl]

I agree. I was wrong. You being a fool is not a possibility, but certainty.

Keep attempting to worm your way out of your months long ridiculous position on the PEDvetkin issue. Run like a b!tch, box-of-rocks.

I don't have a position on the issue and am finding categorical positions from both sides naive to not say stupid. Yes, Povetkin is most likely using PEDs like almost all top athletes, but him being so unprofessional in that area TWICE definitely looks suspicious.

It's a bullshitstory on it's own, the test was taken a month before, which would make him a weaker fighter during the actual fight, on top of that it was an American substance, very unlogical. And despite Poverkin being weaker as normal and naturally, he was still dominating Duhaupas in a way better fasion as Wilder did. Both Stiverne, as well as Wilder were completely out of shape, Wilder was even celebrating holiday with friends and family in the UK. At the time I didn't even know he had family in the UK.

[candyslim]

Is that it? @ Saad

[Tanzio]

I agree. I was wrong. You being a fool is not a possibility, but certainty.

Keep attempting to worm your way out of your months long ridiculous position on the PEDvetkin issue. Run like a b!tch, box-of-rocks.

I don't have a position on the issue . . .

Did you misplace it somewhere?

[boxing_rocks]

Keep attempting to worm your way out of your months long ridiculous position on the PEDvetkin issue. Run like a b!tch, box-of-rocks.

I don't have a position on the issue . . .

Did you misplace it somewhere?

I don't have enough reliable information to have one. I don't like Wilder and don't care about Povetkin to take sides.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Is that it? @ Saad

Yes

[Kalan]

I think it is very much in the WBC's interest to keep their heavyweight title in America. It has to be well worth spending money to make sure that happens and a few tens of thousands extra to create the illusion of everything having been done properly, not just for the sake of placating a few nerds on in the internet, but in order to uphold the reputation ... cough ... cough ... and integrity ... choke ... of the organiztion. No problem with Wilder doing his bit flying to London for a short break. He doesn't want to risk his title against a formidable opponent on his home turf, even if he thinks he does. He'll do as he's told anyway, he knows who butters his bread.

I'm intrigued Saad, why you would say "Povetkin is worth much more to them than Wilder is" ? How does that work, exactly?

You agree the World Boxing Council are not above using their powers to get what they want. You agreed that Vada/Wada are in no position to defy any instruction from the WBC whether it contravenes their code of practice or not. Is it really such a leap to envisage a scenario in which the WBC have exerted pressure on the drug agency to make certain their boy Wilder stays their boy?

They may decide to throw him to the wolves when he can replaced by someone who abides in a WBC-friendly environment such as USA/UK, who doesn't require quite as much protection from threats within the division, and best of all, who will contribute far greater revenue to WBC coffers. Oh look here comes that nice Mr Joshua.

One thing I do agree with Saad about and that's Poviktim's mysterious and substantial physical improvement during the course of his career. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that the explanation is more than simply hard work and healthy living .

So why they maid Povetkin #1 in their rating??? they could just not do it
Why to go to complicated affairs and conspiracies...just ignore him, like all other ABC's.
But WBC, practically, forced Wilder to go to Russia for hard fight...without online translation in US (no publicity or promotion for his future fights).

They made Povetkin #1 because he was knocking out all all their top ranked guys. And they thought Wilder had the beating of him because he's so much younger then Povetkin and an aging Wladimir Klitschko nearly shut Povetkin out. A big, tall guy made it tough for Povetkin.

They didn't force Wilder to do anything.. Ryabinsky won the purse bid and won the fight for Moscow.. That's when the WBC and VADA cooked up a plan to derail Ryabinsky and Moscow as a budding venue for Heavyweight Championship Fights.. At the last minute they flagged a test that passed muster, but claimed it was "positive" for Meldonium and they had to do a months long "investigation." They started slamming Povetkin all over the Internet and Youtube..

Then the also tested Povetkin's "B" sample without his permission.. The B sample will almost always test exactly as the A sample.. They did it to create a new round of smears and innuendo.. After many months they quietly admitted that Povetkin passed all his tests and kept him ranked.. But they made him fight Stiverne to get the Wilder Fight.. They also had a plan for that one.. 24 hours before the fight they claimed Povetkin had 1/10th of a nanogram of Ostarine in one sample.. A test that's impossible to duplicate or to prove they're full of baloney.. That level of drug is so minute it couldn't possibly do anything for anybody and might show up in 1 of 100 tests or none of them.

[asdfjkl]

Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

[boxing_rocks]

What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

[MachoTime]

Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

Sperm Test ?.

[tiny_acres]

Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

Sperm Test ?.

That would be easy enough to get. Just swab asdfuckedj mouth. He gargles with Povetkins seed

[Best Coast]

Promoter World of Boxing has revealed to BS.com that a deal was finalized for Olympic gold medal winner Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) to face Andriy Rudenko (31-2, 19 KOs, #9 WBO, #13 IBF, #13 WBC) on July 1st in Moscow. The fight will be a battle of Russia vs. Ukraine.

Rudenko has won seven fights in a row since suffering a two fight losing streak where he dropped decisions to Lucas Browne and Hughie Fury. The last time he saw action was in December 2016, when he won a ten round unanimous decision to Jason Bergman in Ukraine.

Rudenko is very durable, has a decent punch and has never been stopped, but the majority of his career has been staged in Ukraine and he's lost in the two instances where he stepped up his level of competition.

What's the point of fighting a 2nd-tier opponent like Rudenko? Will there be fewer drug tests because Povetkin is lowering the caliber of his competition?

[asdfjkl]

What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

As far as I know it was the same sample, that's why it couldn't be tested earlier.

[asdfjkl]

Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

Sperm Test ?.

That would be easy enough to get. Just swab asdfuckedj mouth. He gargles with Povetkins seed

We do that a different way, but now I understand why Wilder likes this lab so much.

[boxing_rocks]

What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

As far as I know it was the same sample, that's why it couldn't be tested earlier.

No, you don't know that. Even Ryabinsky didn't say that. It is just convenient for you to think so.

[asdfjkl]

What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

As far as I know it was the same sample, that's why it couldn't be tested earlier.

No, you don't know that. Even Ryabinsky didn't say that. It is just convenient for you to think so.

"Those tests were conducted in an independent laboratory in Lausanne, Switzerland. Ryabinsky contested that, while the samples given in LA tested positive, the independent results proved otherwise.

“An American laboratory confirmed ostarine was found in Povetkin’s ‘B’ sample. The tests given in an independent laboratory in Lausanne [Switzerland] are clean,”"

Povetkin was as clean as it could be, no American drugs in this Russian his body. And it's not the first time the Americans screw up.

[boxing_rocks]

The independent lab tested different samples, otherwise Ryabinsky would be suing VADA.

[Kalan]

The problem with Povetkin, Ryabinshy and their team is they don't speak English... They need to learn the language like Pacquiao, and then they'll be able to navigate the US court system and win like Pacquiao did... Right now they're getting run over and fkked inside out...with terrible legal representation.

You need great heads who speak both languages if you're going to nail VADA, the WBC and Victor Conte.

[tiny_acres]

Just saw on another forum that this will be for the vacant universal boxing federation world heavyweight title.

I guess it's the only organization that would recognize Povetkin.

[Evander]

I don't get the Povetkin thing what am I missing ?
I saw Alexander in Berlin on the Huck v Lebedev undercard boxing Nicolai Firtha, his style is ok but didn't strike me as a broad big threat in boxing even then.
His ability was steady and almost careful but a defensive behind the guard crab like rugged boxing style with a long distance respected jab, didn't have much pop but his accuracy was decent.
Since then he beat a moving up Huck in a good fight at Heavyweight an over the hill Rahman and lost to Wladimir in a stinker.

[crusader]

I don't get the Povetkin thing what am I missing ?
I saw Alexander in Berlin on the Huck v Lebedev undercard boxing Nicolai Firtha, his style is ok but didn't strike me as a broad big threat in boxing even then.
His ability was steady and almost careful but a defensive behind the guard crab like rugged boxing style with a long distance respected jab, didn't have much pop but his accuracy was decent.
Since then he beat a moving up Huck in a good fight at Heavyweight an over the hill Rahman and lost to Wladimir in a stinker.

Do you not follow the division? He's been on a KTFO run since the Wlad fight and was easily top 5. At his best, he was a major threat to pretty much everyone in the division, and there was a lot of excitement for the ill-fated Wilder bout.

We probably wont see him fight anyone too interesting at this point though.

[Evander]

I don't get the Povetkin thing what am I missing ?
I saw Alexander in Berlin on the Huck v Lebedev undercard boxing Nicolai Firtha, his style is ok but didn't strike me as a broad big threat in boxing even then.
His ability was steady and almost careful but a defensive behind the guard crab like rugged boxing style with a long distance respected jab, didn't have much pop but his accuracy was decent.
Since then he beat a moving up Huck in a good fight at Heavyweight an over the hill Rahman and lost to Wladimir in a stinker.

Do you not follow the division? He's been on a KTFO run since the Wlad fight and was easily top 5. At his best, he was a major threat to pretty much everyone in the division, and there was a lot of excitement for the ill-fated Wilder bout.

We probably wont see him fight anyone too interesting at this point though.

The excitement for the Wilder fight is hype, are you gonna do it ... NO it's talk.

First name that comes to mind for a fight at this stage would be Dereck Chisora if they could somehow pull both of them into first gear and hype it proper.

[candyslim]

I think a fight between Wilder and Povetkin (whether you consider him PEDvetkin or Poviktim) is as mouthwatering a match-up as can be made in the heavyweight division, and I for one was absolutely gutted by the cancellation. Hype? ... not a bit of it.

[boxing_rocks]

Pedvictim would be BY FAR the best opponent of Wilder.

[asdfjkl]

I wonder who Takam will fight this month.

[Stuarty]

What is the fuckin point in this fight?

Excuse my ignorance but why is Povetkin fighting if he's failed a test?