If I go on a mad bender I tend to get worse when I stop but I'm usually ok if I only drink once a week and have stuff to do the next day etc...pimp wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:It doesn't. I take medication daily for depression. If I miss it for a couple of days it makes me quite ill physically and mentally. I'm not nice to be around and I isolate myself when I'm feeling down. I drink once a week usually and do a bit of Coke. It definitely doesn't help but I feel I need a release once a week usually.pimp wrote:The coke and booze won't help him
Sometimes I'll be without a care, no extra stress, quite happy and no specific reason not to be but all of a sudden I'll just get dragged down and can't shake it. When you try and articulate the symptoms to your doctor it sounds mental and you feel as if you're being daft. It's fuckin horrible sometimes I've got to say.
That's a shame mate, I get low moods all the time but I stay away from booze even though I'm not one for drinking much, I've not had any wiff for ages but that's cos I don't go out with my mates cos there all bang into it, but to be honest every fuker is nowadays. If I drink I seem to go worse with my moods
Ricky Hatton
Re: Ricky Hatton
Re: Ricky Hatton
Going on about 'If I could have done it all without the fame I would'. Sorry but this is absolute high level bollocks. He seems to have very little self-awareness Ricky.
Ricky got addicted to the fame and glory of it, to the point that it overtook the boxing side of things in my opinion. It ended up detracting from the main thing he needed to do, which was be an athlete, train and focus on winning boxing bouts.
Re: Ricky Hatton
ill not have a word said about hatton, what a boxer, what a man. he's given us all some of the best nights ever in british boxing. he never had any quit in him.
if kell brook had got the cut hatton had against thaxton, brook would have committed suicide in the ring rather than take another punch in case it damaged his eyelashes.
if kell brook had got the cut hatton had against thaxton, brook would have committed suicide in the ring rather than take another punch in case it damaged his eyelashes.
Re: Ricky Hatton
With the money arguments, I think what money can highlight is failures in other areas of your life, it can make you feel like somehow you 'should have it all' - so when you don't then it can hit you hard. It highlights the gaps and holes in your life, even if you don't realise it.
Also I have not found one thing that causes me to have more depression and low feelings than cocaine - it's a bad drug. I would suggest anyone with even a slight tendency towards depression don't touch that stuff.
As social creatures most of us are happy when we've got friends/family around us and we feel part of 'something'. Money and/or fame actually has the potential to break up so many of those things.
Also I have not found one thing that causes me to have more depression and low feelings than cocaine - it's a bad drug. I would suggest anyone with even a slight tendency towards depression don't touch that stuff.
As social creatures most of us are happy when we've got friends/family around us and we feel part of 'something'. Money and/or fame actually has the potential to break up so many of those things.
-
Counter-puncher
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 39141
- Joined: 20 May 2008, 11:41
Re: Ricky Hatton
He quit from a bodyshotveriton wrote:ill not have a word said about hatton, what a boxer, what a man. he's given us all some of the best nights ever in british boxing. he never had any quit in him.
if kell brook had got the cut hatton had against thaxton, brook would have committed suicide in the ring rather than take another punch in case it damaged his eyelashes.
Re: Ricky Hatton
watch it again mate, proper body shot...he was folded in two.
he didnt look for spot on the floor like brook and then fall onto it.
he didnt look for spot on the floor like brook and then fall onto it.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Don't be so feckin depressing.MarkMcBurney wrote:I have no words for how much I despise you for this pathetic post.SAPFO wrote:Millionaires moaning about life really fvckin grates on me for some reason. I would NEVER be depressed with that much money. I'd sack the mrs, and pick 3/4 of the best on Adultwork each week with the interest.
Hatton split with the Mrs still?
Anyway lads, as it happens I'm currently off work with this. Since last year in fact. I feel like I'm living my life with my head in a fishbowl, I cannot concentrate on anything, I can't remember feck all, in ALWAYS tired, even after waking up, I can go to sleep thinking of something silly, wake in the night thinking of it, and then wake up at the crack of dawn with it on my mind again. I also fantasise about smashing people to bits for absolutely no reason.
Can someone diagnose me?
-
forcefraser
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 5462
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 06:15
Re: Ricky Hatton
Sounds like ADHD or ADD as it is often called in adults. People with ADD have problems coping with life in general, as they lack the ability to function with structure.SAPFO wrote:Don't be so feckin depressing.MarkMcBurney wrote:I have no words for how much I despise you for this pathetic post.SAPFO wrote:Millionaires moaning about life really fvckin grates on me for some reason. I would NEVER be depressed with that much money. I'd sack the mrs, and pick 3/4 of the best on Adultwork each week with the interest.
Hatton split with the Mrs still?
Anyway lads, as it happens I'm currently off work with this. Since last year in fact. I feel like I'm living my life with my head in a fishbowl, I cannot concentrate on anything, I can't remember feck all, in ALWAYS tired, even after waking up, I can go to sleep thinking of something silly, wake in the night thinking of it, and then wake up at the crack of dawn with it on my mind again. I also fantasise about smashing people to bits for absolutely no reason.
Can someone diagnose me?
Many people with ADD are prone to depression.
You may find find yourself talking to people but not really hearing or absorbing what they are saying, your mind is too busy running wild with other thoughts.
Things that others find important, like the name of their kids teacher, keeping some form of order in the house, everyday stuff, simply does not register as important at all. Many ADD adults are incorrectly perceived as selfish and uncaring, when in reality they simply are wired in such a way that these things are unintended. A lot of the time you can feel like you are swimming the opposite way to the rest of the world. Your mind never rests, it is constantly running with thoughts and it exhausts you. Most people with ADD will retreat into the comfort of their own world and lock out the outside world, it's a place they don't really understand. They find their own world a place they would rather be. Thus socially, everyday is a challenge to find balance.
The flip side is often an extremely colourful brain, a creative one and an ability to focus with lazer like intensity on things that they do actually find interesting.
Living with ADD many people will drink too much, hit the gear and cannot control their inherent need for impulsiveness, which usually comes in the form of gambling and risk taking. Consequences don't register.
It's a very misunderstood condition. Never too late to get help. Have a look into it. I did and it was the best thing I ever did. It will always be there, but it can be controlled and kept in check. These days I accept it for what it is rather than analysing why and I focus on the benefits of the positive traits that come with it.
Someone once told me that there were times when they felt I didnt give a toss about them, simply did not care, whilst the next minute I I would be focused on them so intently it was as if the sun was shining on them.
It doesn't rain forever and the sun will come out. Focus on that.
Eat right, drink lots of water, less booze and other stuff and exercise every day. All massively important in keeping it under control.
Good luck with whatever it is.
Last edited by forcefraser on 02 Jun 2017, 23:48, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Ricky Hatton
for millions of years, across hundreds of cultures, it was known as "being a bit of a wanker"
now there are official terms to give to everything like ADD ADHD and all the rest. this takes any kind of responsibility away from "the wanker", allows whoever to medicalise an increasing number of "conditions" and generally means that we all end up as a bunch of pill poppers searching for something to swallow to ease the pain of everyday existence.
my advice: read books, go for walks in the countryside, volunteer helping people in genuine physical need either in this country or another.
one day we'll look back at this time with disgust at how we let so many people get caught up in this quackery.
now there are official terms to give to everything like ADD ADHD and all the rest. this takes any kind of responsibility away from "the wanker", allows whoever to medicalise an increasing number of "conditions" and generally means that we all end up as a bunch of pill poppers searching for something to swallow to ease the pain of everyday existence.
my advice: read books, go for walks in the countryside, volunteer helping people in genuine physical need either in this country or another.
one day we'll look back at this time with disgust at how we let so many people get caught up in this quackery.
-
forcefraser
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 5462
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 06:15
Re: Ricky Hatton
I can see how people might think that and in some cases you might be correct. But not everyone who comes across as a bit of a wanker, actively sets out to be a wanker. Reading your post I would say you are a bit of a wanker, but you probably don't intend to be. Not everyone pops pills, I don't.veriton wrote:for millions of years, across hundreds of cultures, it was known as "being a bit of a wanker"
now there are official terms to give to everything like ADD ADHD and all the rest. this takes any kind of responsibility away from "the wanker", allows whoever to medicalise an increasing number of "conditions" and generally means that we all end up as a bunch of pill poppers searching for something to swallow to ease the pain of everyday existence.
my advice: read books, go for walks in the countryside, volunteer helping people in genuine physical need either in this country or another.
one day we'll look back at this time with disgust at how we let so many people get caught up in this quackery.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Huh? How did he do that? He got beat by two of the best of our generation and one which is arguably top 5 p4p ever and the other bout with manny he was getting trained all wrong. Ricky lost 3 fights and the last one i wouldnt take much notice of. Ricky has always been a boxer first and foremost,the only fight were i seen ricky didnt look 100% was on the ring walk down to fight manny anything else he has always been up for it so i think you are 100% wrong with your statementTheCobra wrote:Going on about 'If I could have done it all without the fame I would'. Sorry but this is absolute high level bollocks. He seems to have very little self-awareness Ricky.
Ricky got addicted to the fame and glory of it, to the point that it overtook the boxing side of things in my opinion. It ended up detracting from the main thing he needed to do, which was be an athlete, train and focus on winning boxing bouts.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Errm ricky has never quit before so why would he at the end of his career? He took a good body shit and was counted out,it hapoens you know. He didnt just walk away from a punch then decide to take a knee like brook the quitter did he? No he was counted. out from a body shot.Counter-puncher wrote:He quit from a bodyshotveriton wrote:ill not have a word said about hatton, what a boxer, what a man. he's given us all some of the best nights ever in british boxing. he never had any quit in him.
if kell brook had got the cut hatton had against thaxton, brook would have committed suicide in the ring rather than take another punch in case it damaged his eyelashes.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Haha yes there was nothing wrong with brooks eye when he was looking for a clear space on the mat was there hahaveriton wrote:watch it again mate, proper body shot...he was folded in two.
he didnt look for spot on the floor like brook and then fall onto it.
Re: Ricky Hatton
I used to think ADHD? There is no such condition just naughty kids getting away with murder till i met my wife and her daughter,she was 5 at the time( the daughter not my wife lol) and after about 2 years of trying my ideas my wifes ideas and a few ppl close to us ideas i realised ADHD definitely exists,she is 19 now and is the same as when i first met her at 5 years of age. She does things that gets her into trouble and doesnt know how to resist not doing them,we have had nearly every parent from her school at our door,had teachers every year calling us up telling us what she has done wrong etc etc,she has been chucked off college courses and me and her mum have brought her up the right way telling her right from wrong. I know its not our parenting skills because i have an 11 year old son who is the total opposite to her,he will sit with you have a proper conversation with you,give you a hug and we have never had any teacher call us about his behaviour so my point is my daughter would not go for a walk in the countryside cause she would just end up arguing with me or her mum she cant read a book because her mund wont let her,it will just be thinking about other things and she wont concentrate. ADHD exists i know iv lived the life of a step dad who's hands are tied up cause the kid doesnt know what she is doing wrong no matter how many times you tell her.veriton wrote:for millions of years, across hundreds of cultures, it was known as "being a bit of a wanker"
now there are official terms to give to everything like ADD ADHD and all the rest. this takes any kind of responsibility away from "the wanker", allows whoever to medicalise an increasing number of "conditions" and generally means that we all end up as a bunch of pill poppers searching for something to swallow to ease the pain of everyday existence.
my advice: read books, go for walks in the countryside, volunteer helping people in genuine physical need either in this country or another.
one day we'll look back at this time with disgust at how we let so many people get caught up in this quackery.
Re: Ricky Hatton
So was getting smashed with his mates and ballooning in weight for 3 months, then training for 3 months (most of which involved trying to cut back down to the weight) in repeated cycles really the best way to get the best out of his talents?thechump wrote: Huh? How did he do that? He got beat by two of the best of our generation and one which is arguably top 5 p4p ever and the other bout with manny he was getting trained all wrong. Ricky lost 3 fights and the last one i wouldnt take much notice of. Ricky has always been a boxer first and foremost,the only fight were i seen ricky didnt look 100% was on the ring walk down to fight manny anything else he has always been up for it so i think you are 100% wrong with your statement
I think Ricky the 'entertainer, one of the lads, man of the people, having a drink with me mates' overtook Ricky the 'boxer, sportsman' around about the Tszyu fight. He peaked at Tszyu and was on a steady downhill slope after that when the lifestyle overtook the boxing.
He still seems to be in some state of denial about his addiction to the fame and the limelight, I think his comment about if he could have stayed unknown and just done the boxing then he would, that's just ludicrous. That's just totally not his character or personality.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Ricky was one of the lads way before the tszyu fight,dont you remember fwank bunny saying he needs to change his lifestyle? I remember seeing a clip of him on holiday with the lads and he had a massive gut on him that was about the time he won the british title i think so that was back in 2001/02TheCobra wrote:So was getting smashed with his mates and ballooning in weight for 3 months, then training for 3 months (most of which involved trying to cut back down to the weight) in repeated cycles really the best way to get the best out of his talents?thechump wrote: Huh? How did he do that? He got beat by two of the best of our generation and one which is arguably top 5 p4p ever and the other bout with manny he was getting trained all wrong. Ricky lost 3 fights and the last one i wouldnt take much notice of. Ricky has always been a boxer first and foremost,the only fight were i seen ricky didnt look 100% was on the ring walk down to fight manny anything else he has always been up for it so i think you are 100% wrong with your statement
I think Ricky the 'entertainer, one of the lads, man of the people, having a drink with me mates' overtook Ricky the 'boxer, sportsman' around about the Tszyu fight. He peaked at Tszyu and was on a steady downhill slope after that when the lifestyle overtook the boxing.
He still seems to be in some state of denial about his addiction to the fame and the limelight, I think his comment about if he could have stayed unknown and just done the boxing then he would, that's just ludicrous. That's just totally not his character or personality.
-
boxingknockout
- Super Lightweight
- Posts: 2856
- Joined: 09 Sep 2016, 10:45
Re: Ricky Hatton
Yeah but before Hatton became world champ, he was busier with more fights so he didn't have the time to get grossly out of shape.thechump wrote:Ricky was one of the lads way before the tszyu fight,dont you remember fwank bunny saying he needs to change his lifestyle? I remember seeing a clip of him on holiday with the lads and he had a massive gut on him that was about the time he won the british title i think so that was back in 2001/02TheCobra wrote:So was getting smashed with his mates and ballooning in weight for 3 months, then training for 3 months (most of which involved trying to cut back down to the weight) in repeated cycles really the best way to get the best out of his talents?thechump wrote: Huh? How did he do that? He got beat by two of the best of our generation and one which is arguably top 5 p4p ever and the other bout with manny he was getting trained all wrong. Ricky lost 3 fights and the last one i wouldnt take much notice of. Ricky has always been a boxer first and foremost,the only fight were i seen ricky didnt look 100% was on the ring walk down to fight manny anything else he has always been up for it so i think you are 100% wrong with your statement
I think Ricky the 'entertainer, one of the lads, man of the people, having a drink with me mates' overtook Ricky the 'boxer, sportsman' around about the Tszyu fight. He peaked at Tszyu and was on a steady downhill slope after that when the lifestyle overtook the boxing.
He still seems to be in some state of denial about his addiction to the fame and the limelight, I think his comment about if he could have stayed unknown and just done the boxing then he would, that's just ludicrous. That's just totally not his character or personality.
-
mickey1975
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 23133
- Joined: 02 Mar 2009, 12:54
Re: Ricky Hatton
I'm not joking here, that sounds exactly like me. I'm going to look into it.forcefraser wrote:Sounds like ADHD or ADD as it is often called in adults. People with ADD have problems coping with life in general, as they lack the ability to function with structure.SAPFO wrote:Don't be so feckin depressing.MarkMcBurney wrote: I have no words for how much I despise you for this pathetic post.
Anyway lads, as it happens I'm currently off work with this. Since last year in fact. I feel like I'm living my life with my head in a fishbowl, I cannot concentrate on anything, I can't remember feck all, in ALWAYS tired, even after waking up, I can go to sleep thinking of something silly, wake in the night thinking of it, and then wake up at the crack of dawn with it on my mind again. I also fantasise about smashing people to bits for absolutely no reason.
Can someone diagnose me?
Many people with ADD are prone to depression.
You may find find yourself talking to people but not really hearing or absorbing what they are saying, your mind is too busy running wild with other thoughts.
Things that others find important, like the name of their kids teacher, keeping some form of order in the house, everyday stuff, simply does not register as important at all. Many ADD adults are incorrectly perceived as selfish and uncaring, when in reality they simply are wired in such a way that these things are unintended. A lot of the time you can feel like you are swimming the opposite way to the rest of the world. Your mind never rests, it is constantly running with thoughts and it exhausts you. Most people with ADD will retreat into the comfort of their own world and lock out the outside world, it's a place they don't really understand. They find their own world a place they would rather be. Thus socially, everyday is a challenge to find balance.
The flip side is often an extremely colourful brain, a creative one and an ability to focus with lazer like intensity on things that they do actually find interesting.
Living with ADD many people will drink too much, hit the gear and cannot control their inherent need for impulsiveness, which usually comes in the form of gambling and risk taking. Consequences don't register.
It's a very misunderstood condition. Never too late to get help. Have a look into it. I did and it was the best thing I ever did. It will always be there, but it can be controlled and kept in check. These days I accept it for what it is rather than analysing why and I focus on the benefits of the positive traits that come with it.
Someone once told me that there were times when they felt I didnt give a toss about them, simply did not care, whilst the next minute I I would be focused on them so intently it was as if the sun was shining on them.
It doesn't rain forever and the sun will come out. Focus on that.
Eat right, drink lots of water, less booze and other stuff and exercise every day. All massively important in keeping it under control.
Good luck with whatever it is.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Yeh things escalated the more famous he got and when he went up to world level the gaps between fights were bigger and the indiscipline really seemed to kick in with the fame and money. It all caught up with him eventually. As I said, I'm not saying Pac and May wouldn't have beat him anyways, but maybe things would have been different in how the fights went and where his career went from there if he lived the life more.boxingknockout wrote:Yeah but before Hatton became world champ, he was busier with more fights so he didn't have the time to get grossly out of shape.thechump wrote: Ricky was one of the lads way before the tszyu fight,dont you remember fwank bunny saying he needs to change his lifestyle? I remember seeing a clip of him on holiday with the lads and he had a massive gut on him that was about the time he won the british title i think so that was back in 2001/02
He got away with things at British and WBU level but you can't be unprofessional when you're in with the elite of the sport. He got embarassed against Pac. It was dreadful.
Re: Ricky Hatton
jackpot, get yoursen on the tablets mate. remember: nothing's your responsibility any more, it's just the illness!!mickey1975 wrote:I'm not joking here, that sounds exactly like me. I'm going to look into it.forcefraser wrote:Sounds like ADHD or ADD as it is often called in adults. People with ADD have problems coping with life in general, as they lack the ability to function with structure.SAPFO wrote:
Don't be so feckin depressing.
Anyway lads, as it happens I'm currently off work with this. Since last year in fact. I feel like I'm living my life with my head in a fishbowl, I cannot concentrate on anything, I can't remember feck all, in ALWAYS tired, even after waking up, I can go to sleep thinking of something silly, wake in the night thinking of it, and then wake up at the crack of dawn with it on my mind again. I also fantasise about smashing people to bits for absolutely no reason.
Can someone diagnose me?
Many people with ADD are prone to depression.
You may find find yourself talking to people but not really hearing or absorbing what they are saying, your mind is too busy running wild with other thoughts.
Things that others find important, like the name of their kids teacher, keeping some form of order in the house, everyday stuff, simply does not register as important at all. Many ADD adults are incorrectly perceived as selfish and uncaring, when in reality they simply are wired in such a way that these things are unintended. A lot of the time you can feel like you are swimming the opposite way to the rest of the world. Your mind never rests, it is constantly running with thoughts and it exhausts you. Most people with ADD will retreat into the comfort of their own world and lock out the outside world, it's a place they don't really understand. They find their own world a place they would rather be. Thus socially, everyday is a challenge to find balance.
The flip side is often an extremely colourful brain, a creative one and an ability to focus with lazer like intensity on things that they do actually find interesting.
Living with ADD many people will drink too much, hit the gear and cannot control their inherent need for impulsiveness, which usually comes in the form of gambling and risk taking. Consequences don't register.
It's a very misunderstood condition. Never too late to get help. Have a look into it. I did and it was the best thing I ever did. It will always be there, but it can be controlled and kept in check. These days I accept it for what it is rather than analysing why and I focus on the benefits of the positive traits that come with it.
Someone once told me that there were times when they felt I didnt give a toss about them, simply did not care, whilst the next minute I I would be focused on them so intently it was as if the sun was shining on them.
It doesn't rain forever and the sun will come out. Focus on that.
Eat right, drink lots of water, less booze and other stuff and exercise every day. All massively important in keeping it under control.
Good luck with whatever it is.
seriously, what forcefraser described probably applies to the vast majority of blokes in this country. Stop the navel gazing, it's like listening to The Cure again in 1986.
Depression etc etc has turned into a huge industry, it seems any person who tells their life story has come through depression - read a piece about Tony Adams today outlining his depression credentials to join the club. it's boring.
whenever i read about all this ADHD, depression tripe I wonder if the same percentage of people suffer from it in Syria or some drought-ridden hellhole in Africa. If it's a human condition it would be spread equally wouldnt it...it's not. that's all you need to know.
-
Jackson328
- Middleweight
- Posts: 411
- Joined: 14 Nov 2013, 14:51
Re: Ricky Hatton
yep, pathetic is an understatement. w@nkerMarkMcBurney wrote:I have no words for how much I despise you for this pathetic post.SAPFO wrote:Millionaires moaning about life really fvckin grates on me for some reason. I would NEVER be depressed with that much money. I'd sack the mrs, and pick 3/4 of the best on Adultwork each week with the interest.
Hatton split with the Mrs still?
-
Jackson328
- Middleweight
- Posts: 411
- Joined: 14 Nov 2013, 14:51
Re: Ricky Hatton
Chippo wrote:That's a reason to "feel depressed" rather than being medically depressed, which is an illness. We should probably stop using the word depressed when we actually mean sad as it detracts from people who suffer from the actual condition.CaptainSpacerod wrote:Is there not ? I'm guessing here but I'd have thought that a major factor in depression for 40-55 yr olds would be the realization "poo I'm never gonna be a success career wise" which can often be measured by income.Loynesy wrote:It's actually a little depressing that people think that...
Mental illness induced suicides are one of the major causes of death for the 40-55 male demographic, and there is no correlation to income.
Agree wholeheartedly with this, its a bit like people saying they have the flu when they really have a cold or a touch of sinus trouble. Flu is massively debilitating and knocks you for six
-
forcefraser
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 5462
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 06:15
Re: Ricky Hatton
Veriton, if you were not the sort of bloke who handled a broken nose AND broken fingers, but still went back to the bar to drink a shed loads of pints, I'd happily take you outside for a square go. Given that you are the self proclaimed hardest man who ever set foot outside of his own delusion, I will leave you well alone. You scare me.
Re: Ricky Hatton
Right, outside nowJackson328 wrote:yep, pathetic is an understatement. w@nkerMarkMcBurney wrote:I have no words for how much I despise you for this pathetic post.SAPFO wrote:Millionaires moaning about life really fvckin grates on me for some reason. I would NEVER be depressed with that much money. I'd sack the mrs, and pick 3/4 of the best on Adultwork each week with the interest.
Hatton split with the Mrs still?
-
chrisnew86
- Super Welterweight
- Posts: 472
- Joined: 08 Jul 2015, 11:18
Re: Ricky Hatton
SAPFO wrote:Millionaires moaning about life really fvckin grates on me for some reason. I would NEVER be depressed with that much money. I'd sack the mrs, and pick 3/4 of the best on Adultwork each week with the interest.
Hatton split with the Mrs still?