Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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Should he be applauded?

Poll ended at 10 Jun 2017, 05:22

Yes
9
69%
No
4
31%
 
Total votes: 13

Ruthless-RKO
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Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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I read an article, could not agree more..

http://www.BS.com/virgil-hunte ... ed--117251

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Decisions like the one Hunter made have to be made by trainers more often, because nearly everyone in boxing is discouraged from getting in the way of serious injury.

Fighters who take a knee are “quitters.” Referees who stop fights “ripped people off.” Jurisdictions that don't license fighters are “taking food off their tables.”

In stepping up and saving his fighter, Hunter was accused online of being everything from an overrated trainer to a variety of improprieties as absurd as wanting to beat the Montreal traffic.

What Hunter is, is a man who saw Fonfara, who statistically gets hit with more power punches than any other high level fighter in the sport, getting drubbed by Stevenson, statistically the most accurate power puncher in the sport. Combined with the erosion Fonfara had experienced in wars over the year, most notably a savage battle with Nathan Cleverly, and no amount of defensive training over an eight week training camp was realistically going to yield an outcome other than him getting knocked out.

It's precisely the insistence that anything short of that is an insufficient effort that leads to tragic situations like the one another former Stevenson opponent, David Whittom, is in right now.

Whittom is currently in a medically induced coma following a May 27 bout against Gary Kopas in Fredericton, New Brunswick. The footage of the bout is grotesque, with a clearly incapacitated Whittom being stood up and allowed to take two extra haymakers following a knockdown before the fight was stopped.

Prior to Fonfara's bout against Cleverly, he said in an interview that his goals in boxing were to make enough money to be secure, and one day train fighters in Chicago. Modest aspirations, ones that indicate that the fight game is a means to hopeful financial stability just like any other job.

Perhaps the most memorable corner stoppage in recent memory was Billy Briscoe's saving of Gabe Rosado against Gennady Golovkin. Prior to throwing in the towel, Briscoe could be heard yelling to Rosado's father, “I gotta stop it, your son's gonna die.”

On live television, Briscoe sharply vocalized the grave danger that exists in boxing, a fact willingly ignored all too often at every level in the sport.

Boxing is not a bloodsport. It is an athletic competition involving human beings. It is an unthinkably dangerous vocation that requires men and women to dedicate their whole lives. They spend years mastering an otherwise useless skill, and once they have, wager their own physical currency for the chance at making money. Every little decision made in boxing—particularly whether to continue fighting or not—should be done so with the consideration of health and future prosperity, not whether the ending of a bout is horrific enough for a perverse portion of the audience.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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Virgil Hunter did the right thing.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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Virgil Hunter made the right call so let's applaud him for that but let's also point out how many of his fighters are getting put in that situation lately. Why are his fighters so ill prepared for big fights? Sure, he has Ward but Ward would be just as good if i trained him and I'm an idiot. Hunter is so overrated in my opinion. For instance, Hunter's advice to Fonfara to NOT throw any punches in a round after getting hurt is the most ridiculous advice that i've ever heard from a trainer.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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caldo2025 wrote:Virgil Hunter made the right call so let's applaud him for that but let's also point out how many of his fighters are getting put in that situation lately. Why are his fighters so ill prepared for big fights? Sure, he has Ward but Ward would be just as good if i trained him and I'm an idiot. Hunter is so overrated in my opinion. For instance, Hunter's advice to Fonfara to NOT throw any punches in a round after getting hurt is the most ridiculous advice that i've ever heard from a trainer.
Maybe he wanted him to use that round, to regain some energy and consciousness.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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Ruthless-RKO wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Virgil Hunter made the right call so let's applaud him for that but let's also point out how many of his fighters are getting put in that situation lately. Why are his fighters so ill prepared for big fights? Sure, he has Ward but Ward would be just as good if i trained him and I'm an idiot. Hunter is so overrated in my opinion. For instance, Hunter's advice to Fonfara to NOT throw any punches in a round after getting hurt is the most ridiculous advice that i've ever heard from a trainer.
Maybe he wanted him to use that round, to regain some energy and consciousness.
It's horrible advice Ruthless. Fonfara has zero mobility and finesse. We aren't talking about SRL here and he's asking his fighter to NOT throw a punch and to just play defense? Fonfara's defense consists of a peek-o-boo stance with his back against the ropes, always has been. Then after taking blow after blow, on his trainers advise, his trainer throws the towel and gets kudos for it? Nah. Hunter's a dope. You tell you fighter to keep throwing in that instance because your best defense is your offense. It's ridiculous. Sorry, i'm a fan of Fonfara and I think that he received some bad advice and it probably extended into a poor training camp with Hunter's inability to get his fighters ready for big fights.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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caldo2025 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Virgil Hunter made the right call so let's applaud him for that but let's also point out how many of his fighters are getting put in that situation lately. Why are his fighters so ill prepared for big fights? Sure, he has Ward but Ward would be just as good if i trained him and I'm an idiot. Hunter is so overrated in my opinion. For instance, Hunter's advice to Fonfara to NOT throw any punches in a round after getting hurt is the most ridiculous advice that i've ever heard from a trainer.
Maybe he wanted him to use that round, to regain some energy and consciousness.
It's horrible advice Ruthless. Fonfara has zero mobility and finesse. We aren't talking about SRL here and he's asking his fighter to NOT throw a punch and to just play defense? Fonfara's defense consists of a peek-o-boo stance with his back against the ropes, always has been. Then after taking blow after blow, on his trainers advise, his trainer throws the towel and gets kudos for it? Nah. Hunter's a dope. You tell you fighter to keep throwing in that instance because your best defense is your offense. It's ridiculous. Sorry, i'm a fan of Fonfara and I think that he received some bad advice and it probably extended into a poor training camp with Hunter's inability to get his fighters ready for big fights.
I agree, he's too open.. Got hit clean with the left many times.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

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With Hunter's skill set (well illustrated with an advise to not throw a punch), stopping the fight was the best he could do.
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Re: Should Virgil Hunter's Decision To Save Fonfara Be Applauded

Post by Perseus »

As I watched Adonis repeatedly blast Fonfara I was telling the tv(and the ref) to stop the beating and I was glad that Hunter stepped in.
I answered no in the poll because protecting his fighter is part of the job.
Trainers stopping the fight when their fighter has been reduced to a punching bag should be an expectation.
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