If Kovalev gets robbed again, I won't follow boxing anymore

[Freedom2013]

A sport needs honest officiating to be legitimate.

If Kovalev loses fairly, I'll still follow the sport.

But if he loses because the ref permits Ward to use illegal tactics like deliberate head butts, or because the judges are corrupt, then I'm no longer going to follow the sport of boxing.

[Impractical Poster]

Interesting

[Impractical Poster]

I've followed the sport this long with all it's bad decisions. Another bad one isn't going to tip the scale all that much. Either way, not sure the first fight result should be deemed a robbery. I had Kov winning, but it was very close.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

There has been shitty decisions since the sport started and there always will be.

[Freedom2013]

I've had less enthusiasm for boxing after the Kovalev-Ward I robbery.

There's no point in watching a sport where those who win are given losses.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You should stop watching it.

[Freedom2013]

You should stop watching it.

If Kovalev gets robbed again after a corrupt referee protects Ward and allows him to clinch, clamp, grapple and otherwise foul his way to survive the distance, I will no longer follow boxing.

And I fully expect that to happen.

[victor-romeo]

I go into boxing know that it is fully corrupt. So although I get my heart broken, here and there, I find gems within the corruption, and there are different ways the sport is corrupt, I don't think Kovalev or Ward took a dive in their fight so I got to see them fight to the full of there abilities and I thought Kovalev won, I don't need the judges to tell me that.
The fights that made me most upset due to something fishy going on were Hagler vs Leonard, Trindad vs De lahoya, and the fight I didn't care who won but just outraged my moral sensibilities was I believe the first fight with Pacqiao and Bradley.

I think only way Kovalev beats Ward is by KO, which he can do, but I am still tuning into fight and still watching boxing no matter what happens.

[Tony1244]

You should stop watching it.

If Kovalev gets robbed again after a corrupt referee protects Ward and allows him to clinch, clamp, grapple and otherwise foul his way to survive the distance, I will no longer follow boxing.

And I fully expect that to happen.

[victor-romeo]

You should stop watching it.

[Tanzio]

I've had less enthusiasm for boxing after the Kovalev-Ward I robbery.

There's no point in watching a sport where those who win are given losses.

I quit following boxing closely for over 10 years after the travesty that was Sweet Pea v JCC. Maybe you should take some time off, although I would miss your free links to boxing cards.

I still completely disagree with your opinion on the SOGgy v Krusher. But that is immaterial to the effects things not going your way are having on you.

[diddy]

Chances are this fight will go more like the 2H of the last fight when Ward made adjustments. In which case Ward winning won't be a robbery.

I thought Kovalev should've won the first fight by 1 point. My intuition tells me he won't build quite the lead he did in the first fight since Ward has now seen him and felt his power. Kovalev is a great fighter but it's pretty clear Ward fights more with his mind and is more capable of making adjustments. When award adjusted, Kovalev didn't.

[Enlightened-One]

But if [Kovalev] loses because the ref permits Ward to use illegal tactics like deliberate head butts, or because the judges are corrupt, then I'm no longer going to follow the sport of boxing.

You should really stop watching the sport of boxing if you’ve already got to the stage whereby the possibility of one more case of controversial officiating would compel you to quit following the sport altogether.

To be honest, I possess a genuine appreciation for the sport of boxing… unlike you, I’m not merely a fair weather fan, since I’m determined to support boxing rather than abandoning it during its hard times.

That being said, I don’t believe for one second that you’d stop submitting posts to the BoxRec “Current Scene” forum section, since I reckon you’re being a tad dishonest about stopping following boxing.

[victor-romeo]

Chances are this fight will go more like the 2H of the last fight when Ward made adjustments. In which case Ward winning won't be a robbery.

I thought Kovalev should've won the first fight by 1 point. My intuition tells me he won't build quite the lead he did in the first fight since Ward has now seen him and felt his power. Kovalev is a great fighter but it's pretty clear Ward fights more with his mind and is more capable of making adjustments. When award adjusted, Kovalev didn't.

I was wondering can you give examples of the adjustments Ward made?

[Tony1244]

We all hate bad decisions but Ward-Kovolov was a close fight.

[gilgamesh]

I wouldn't be shocked by it, and I'd keep watching Boxing. I sincerely hope that's not the case though because it's always a black eye for the sport when it happens and that eyes been blackened a LOT.

[asdfjkl]

Americans always cheat and will always cheat lol, why do you think Wilder doesn't fight Povetkin?

[Impractical Poster]

Chances are this fight will go more like the 2H of the last fight when Ward made adjustments. In which case Ward winning won't be a robbery.

I thought Kovalev should've won the first fight by 1 point. My intuition tells me he won't build quite the lead he did in the first fight since Ward has now seen him and felt his power. Kovalev is a great fighter but it's pretty clear Ward fights more with his mind and is more capable of making adjustments. When award adjusted, Kovalev didn't.

I was wondering can you give examples of the adjustments Ward made?

He was able to work his way inside and do effective work up close as the fight wore on. Whether this was because Kov was a bit gassed by the 5th round, Ward adjusted, or a combo, we will find out soon. I was and will be rooting for Kov again, however, I think that Ward is the fighter who can make quicker and better adjustments. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect Ward will win a clear cut ud this time.

[Impractical Poster]

Americans always cheat and will always cheat lol, why do you think Wilder doesn't fight Povetkin?

That's funny coming from a fan of Russian fighters.

[asdfjkl]

Americans always cheat and will always cheat lol, why do you think Wilder doesn't fight Povetkin?

That's funny coming from a fan of Russian fighters.

I'm not a fan of any Russian fighter tbh...

[gilgamesh]

Americans always cheat and will always cheat lol, why do you think Wilder doesn't fight Povetkin?

Probably because Povetkin tested positive for a banned sutstance even when Povetkin had the benefit of being tested in his own home country he was so off the charts he couldn't get away with it.

I know you're upset that Povetkin pissed his career away, but he did. I wanted to see him fight Wilder too, but it's time to get over it, it ain't happening, and it's Povetkin's fault.

There aren't really too many noteworthy Russian Heavyweights to root for, Andrey Fedosov is probably the next best Russian Heavyweight contender and he's coming up on a year of inactivity.

[Nightmare Roy]

I like Kov, not a fan of Ward but IMO Ward won the first fight just.

[asdfjkl]

Americans always cheat and will always cheat lol, why do you think Wilder doesn't fight Povetkin?

Probably because Povetkin tested positive for a banned sutstance even when Povetkin had the benefit of being tested in his own home country he was so off the charts he couldn't get away with it.

I know you're upset that Povetkin pissed his career away, but he did. I wanted to see him fight Wilder too, but it's time to get over it, it ain't happening, and it's Povetkin's fault.

There aren't really too many noteworthy Russian Heavyweights to root for, Andrey Fedosov is probably the next best Russian Heavyweight contender and he's coming up on a year of inactivity.

That's bullshit and you know that very well, Povetkin is as clean as it can be and even the Americans admit they were wrong when they first accused this innocent men of any wrongdoing and the second instance they claimed they found a few nanograms (0,00000000001 of a gram) in his body, while any indepentend lab proved him to be innocent. On top of that it was an American substance, which would be really odd for a Russian to take. On top of all that it was an easely traceble substance. On top of that that the substance in the sample the Americans claim was from Povetkin was taken a month before the fight and shown to the world a day before the fight. If Povetkin had that substance in his body a month before the fight, he would actually be weaker during the actual fight, in other words, very very unlikely to be true and especially to be taken on purpose. Nevertheless, Povetkin clearly showed a much better performance against Duhaupas compared to Wilder, despite Duhaupas himself showed a much better performance himself as well.
For me it's a laugh, I would be highly surprised if Povetkin actually took something.
All independent evidence I've seen yet proves that Povetkin is innocent or is very most likely innocent.

[gilgamesh]

On top of that the Russian Olympic Team had several of their athletes banned from competition because they tested positive so many times. On top of that Povetkin is juiced to the gills and no matter how many times you say on top of that he's not gonna get a shot at a Champion because he's a proven drug cheat.

[victor-romeo]

Chances are this fight will go more like the 2H of the last fight when Ward made adjustments. In which case Ward winning won't be a robbery.

I thought Kovalev should've won the first fight by 1 point. My intuition tells me he won't build quite the lead he did in the first fight since Ward has now seen him and felt his power. Kovalev is a great fighter but it's pretty clear Ward fights more with his mind and is more capable of making adjustments. When award adjusted, Kovalev didn't.

I was wondering can you give examples of the adjustments Ward made?

He was able to work his way inside and do effective work up close as the fight wore on. Whether this was because Kov was a bit gassed by the 5th round, Ward adjusted, or a combo, we will find out soon. I was and will be rooting for Kov again, however, I think that Ward is the fighter who can make quicker and better adjustments. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect Ward will win a clear cut ud this time.

I agree with you on the combination of Kovalev gassing out after 5 and Ward being able to work inside more due to that , I think that was part of Wards plan to work Kovalev body and come on in later rounds that said, gassing out is strong word for what happens to Kovalev rather he just hits hard after 5 or 6 rounds not super hard. Off the top of my head I had Kovalev winning 5 of the first 6 rounds with a two point round for a knockdown and had Kovalev winning 2 of the rounds in the rounds 6-12 for a pretty clear victory. Running off of my memory I had Kovlaev biting down and winning the 12th round, anyways it was a close fight and almost understandable that an American fighter would beat a Russian fighter in a close fight in the United States.