Sonny Liston vrs Nino Valdes(1959)

[geocor]

Well we will never know of Valdez vs Marcianillsill we now?
I knew an old dude who attended matches of that era, & when I brought up his name, the guy shook his head , & said Valdez was good , but had that element missing to win a big match. He said too , he looked lethargic & too cautious at times, against swarming punchers like the Old Mongoose for one example.

[Caractacus]

yeah,a number of his fights have appeared on youtube since this thread was posted in 2008.
I would still like to see the fight with Sonny Liston however.

[Kalan]

Does anyone know if any film of this fight exists?

It certainly exists in a pile of forgotten films somewhere. But probably impossible to restore, even if you could find it.

[BoxBuzz]

I'm convinced his mythology is wrapped in the new "height hysteria" goin' round.

The new motto for that genre of thinkers goes a little like this:

He was tall....that is all.

[Kalan]

You're the only one here focused on height BuzzBox... There's another 22 qualities that you need 17 or 18 of to be an ATG... Valdes was lacking in most.

[BoxBuzz]

Kalan, you sell me short.

Just be glad your not "one of those" you know...those height biased folks.

[Kalan]

Make sure you're not...because that's all you think about... And I couldn't sell you tall -- because you're not -- when it comes to the range of your thinking.